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poppyale
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OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!!
      #193309 - 10/12/04 11:44 PM

Hello I was just curious if I could get everyone out there to share your experience's with all different types of opiates/opoids Such as what works and doesn't work for you?What your main opiate for pain ,management....ANYTHING FROM DARVOCET TO MORPHINE....whatever................................

Personaly I take Norco 10 It works for my neck and upperback pain but it doesn't do much good for my upperhip lowerback area anyone have any suggestions for me I go to a chiropractor that also gives me some relief...It really feels good getting adjusted hearing all of those bones pop YOW!!!!!THE pain in my upper hip lower back is strange and comes and goes it is undescribable but i have yet to find any pain killer strong enough to help that pain!!!Anyone have any idea what might be wrong with this area in my body my chiropractor says one side of my hip is always slightly higher than the other and all my doctor does is write a script he doesnt even take a look at my problem areas!!!!

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #193320 - 10/13/04 01:00 AM

Try SOMA for back pain, it is a muscle relaxer and works good!!

PM me for the low cost site. Mention this post!!!

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #201013 - 11/17/04 10:47 AM

You may have one of the variuos forms of "spondy" - do a google search you'll be reading for a while. I have the exact same condition and even a handful of Tylenol 4's won't help when it "slides" out of position.

Chiro keeps me going by snapping it back in with the drop table but it hurts like hell.

Going to see if I can get some Dilaudid or something for when my "3 turns into a 9".


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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #201517 - 11/18/04 09:14 PM

True True I take oxy's 80 ets and with out Soma forget it
because it doesn't get rid of all types of real pain. It's a must for any pain regiment.


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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: floridagator]
      #201523 - 11/18/04 10:03 PM

i asked about palladone the last time i saw my doc and he didn't know what it was so he ave me avinza 30mg morphine its pretty weak i need 60 or more. its a 24 our time release capsule with little beads inside don't know if there is a way to use the beads for better relief,anyone know?

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #201525 - 11/18/04 10:09 PM

have you checked to see if one leg is shorter than the other that will cause lots of problems and lead to hip replacement down the road. just my 2 cents. one of my legs is 6mm shorter than the other and i wear a lift in my shoe. get a standing exray of you hips without shoes on and measure the differance with a ruler. also when you sit on hard surfaces one a s s bone could be off as well

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: infliksta]
      #201537 - 11/19/04 12:05 AM

**YEAH!!! Tell ME about it!!! Woooooow!!! Man it hurts...and has for a hundred years..at least..
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. [Re: limper]
      #226447 - 02/18/05 04:22 PM


On The Molecular Level


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Lablady2
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Re: . [Re: entitled]
      #226450 - 02/18/05 04:28 PM

Like that - physiology textbook - student????????

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Re: Opiates for pain management [Re: Lablady2]
      #226451 - 02/18/05 04:42 PM

Has anyone tried alternative measures for pain control? Nontypical I mean. Buprenorphine comes to mind! In my 1995 PDR, Buprenex (buprenorphine) was used in 0.3 mg doses IV for postoperative pain. The PDR stated 0.3 mg bupe was equal in respiratory depression caused by morphine 10 mg.

When I was taking higher doses of Suboxone (bupe + naloxone) I had really quite good pain relief of my body pain from fibromyalgia. However, the low dose works for my addiction symptoms, I do want to be on higher to deal with my pain.

Any comments?

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #226462 - 02/18/05 04:59 PM

It may only be my tolerance, and kodachrome memory (ala Paul Simon) but back in the days when codeine pills were still effective, I remember them being more effective than my hydro is today. As far as NSAIDs go, ibuprophen beats APAP and asprin hands down. Next time I get a consult I'll see if I can get some of that ibu/hydro combo.

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: poppyale]
      #226483 - 02/18/05 05:38 PM

I am currently taking Soma and Hydro's 10/325 for back and neck pain. Alot of people have told me that the combination is the best, but I must not be taking the right dosage of each. I still prefer Darvocet to Vicodin and Percocet anyday. Even though it is supposedly weaker, it works the best on pain for me. If anyone has used hydro and soma for back pain please let me know, as I need to see if maybe I'm just not taking enough of one or the other.

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Re: OPIATE USAGE FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT!! [Re: Carmanti]
      #226498 - 02/18/05 07:02 PM

Do to several non curable Chronic Pain causing illness's, I have been prescribed everything from Tylenol 3 to Fentanyl, to Meperdine (intramuscular) and back to Fentanyl Patches.

I truely believe that what is prescribed and what is necessary to conrtol your pain level depends on various elements. The illness itself, length of illness, tolerence and the effects of different medications on the individual person, are the main elements. Usually the more advanced an illness gets, the stronger the medication needs to be. Not always though. Some people get very lucky and low doses work longer.

Currently I am using the Fentanyl 100 Patch and found it to be my personal miracle. I also use Roxicodone Liquid for break through pain. Typically whenever the more often the need for the break through medication, there is a need for adjustment to the maintenance medication. In my situation, whenever I need break through medication more than three doses per day, the adjustment to the maintenance medication id needed. They need to be adjusted accordingly. They work together to control pain levels. It is often referred to as a "cocktail".

At first, I was moving up in doses and medications very quickly until I realized I was only getting myself into serious trouble with tolerance. I was under the impression that the medication was supposed to make me pain free. Not true at all.

I needed to get my pain at a manageable level. The problem was that I was moving up too quickly and I knew in no time I was going to be in a place where I was out of options.

Another concern was future surgeries and possible accidents and the possible need for Acute Pain Relief, which is much more common that Chronic Pain Relief. The higher my tollerence rose the less effect the medications were having and this is very serious for a person who will live with chronic pain the rest of their life. You need to kind of think ahead and realize if you take so much of this medication now, where will I go ten years from now.

I am 38. My doctors have all expressed the idea of a Fentanyl pump to me as my next option. I am very leery of that because it takes the control out of my hands and the room for increase in years to come becomes less and less.

I made a complete turn around and weened backwards to find a tollerable level of pain, a level I could live with.

Oxycontin was the medication I was taking at the time I realized I needed to step back and really plan this out better. I had gone from 20mgs 2x a day to 80mgs 3x a day in 6 months. I have very compassionate and wonderful doctors but unfortunately my pain specialist is more concerned with the present than the future. I explained my concerns and he said I was absolutely correct but he still didn't want me to suffer unnecessarily. But, he said he would help me ween down and start again, at a slower pace. We quickly weened the dosage of the oxycotin and within three weeks I was off the oxycotin and using the Fentanyl. I do also use Actiq for emergency use. I used to use the Meperdine for emergency use but I do not like injectables. They are not easy to transport and they don't last as long as the Actiq.

So, my advice to you, based on the last 17 years of suffering from chronic pain and experience wwith pain medication would be to look at the big picture. If indeed you are in a situation where you will be on pain medication for the rest of your life, think small and concentrate on tollerable pain as apposed to "pain free". "Pain Free" is rarely, if not, never obtainable with Chronic pain.

Chronic pain is pain that is not going to ever go away. Chronic Pain is a result of an incurable illness. So, you need a management plan.

Unfortunately, with the state of the Health Care System in the US, too many people are forced to medicate themselves because they are unable to find appropriate treatment. It is a very serious situation and the politicians need to stay the hell out of it, or go to medical school and learn about what they are preaching about.

By holding treatment back from people in chronic pain, they are putting peoples lives in jeopardy. They are forcing people to resort to using whatever they can get to manage their pain and that is something no one should ever have to do. By using inappropriate medication to try and manage chronic pain, you end up having to use it incorrectly, because it will not work at all using it as prescribed. For example, Vicoden and Norco are meant to be taken as needed. What does that mean to a chronic pain sufferer? It means every day and very often. Those medications are just not capable of doing the job that people need them to do.

If you are left to work at treating your chronic pain by yourself, of course you need to do what you need to do to get through the day. But, don't ever give up the search for the treatment you deserve. Don't give up or you will be left in a horrible situation when you get to that point where you are using all the ammunition you can get to fight the pain and it isn't doing anything at all. And, that day will come.

Treating Chronic Pain is a life long, ever changing process and without the assistance of a Pain specialist, it is not a battle that can be won.

I hope I didn't carry on too much. Just another Friday night in bed...

All the Best,

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hydro and soma [Re: Carmanti]
      #226514 - 02/18/05 08:05 PM

I use them both. But I only use the soma rarely, and only when I am ready to hit the sack and stay there for 9 hours. The stuff really knocks me out. I use flexaril more often, when I am going to be home, and be awake. I was also given robaxin, which I can take during the day while working and driving, but I'm not too sure it does anything at all! Maybe a slight muscle relaxant.

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Re: . [Re: Lablady2]
      #227383 - 02/22/05 11:22 AM

All of the above

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Re: . [Re: entitled]
      #228423 - 02/25/05 10:01 AM

Let's see...the first time I went to the ER with my stupid gall bladder, I was given a shot of Stadol and told to go home and take Motrin for the pain. I told the doctor that I was maxed out on Motrin, Tylenol, Aleve, and Orudis KT. All the doctor said was, "you know, you can take 4 Motrin at a time every 4 to 6 hours." Well, DUH. I was also told, "Make some major changes to your diet and be sure to exercise every day. That should take care of it." Well, DOUBLE DUH. I made all kinds of good changes to my lifestyle, losing 50 or 60 lbs. in the process. But my stupid gall bladder had already decided it was gonna try to kill me.

Since then, I've been in the ER once or twice a year with this stupid gall bladder. It's inflamed, not infected, so I just have to live with the attacks. In no particular order, I've been put on Ultram, Darvocet, Darvon, Hydrocodone/APAP, Tylenol #3 and #4, Meperidine (I think that's Demerol or something close), and straight codeine. When I feel a flare-up coming on, the best thing for me to take is one half of a Norco (10/325) and two Orudis KT. If after an hour or hour and a half there is no relief, I take the other half of the 10/325. After this, I can function and not be bed ridden on a heating pad or standing in a almost scalding hot shower.

There have actually been times that I've had no way to get the ER or just any doctor, so I've taken as much of the NSAIDS as I possibly can and then 2 or 3 Benadryl so I can just sleep through the worst of the attack.

So, pretty pathetic, huh? I know, I know...I'm a mess.

Good Lord, I typed a lot! Apologies for the wordy post, y'all. Take Care!

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Re: . [Re: cehrriins]
      #228659 - 02/25/05 09:57 PM

I had a real bad gall bladder and this might sound stupid but when it starts to flare up, try rolling back and forth on the floor. This gets the smudge out of the little ventricles(sp)and lets the gall bladder start relaxing again. This also helps with kidney stones ...

I also have Fibro and have had 2 back surgeries last year and now they want to do a 3 one but I have so much scar tissue wrapped around the nerve the are not sure how to fix the problem .. So they have had me on alot of medicines...

Avinza 120 works great as a time release for me. However, I did have to take a muscle relaxer to keep the pain at a tolerable amount. However after being on it for awhile(like any meds) I built up a tolerance and really did not want to go higher with that med so then went to dilaudids.
Which worked great but I found myself trying to totally relief the pain instead of making it tolerable.
Then went to the patches and I agree this was the best pain relieve however I was allergic to the adhesive...

So now I am back on the Oxy's with muscle relaxers but my DR gave me this Lidocain Patch to put on my back which numbs that area. And wow has that helped ....

So that is my story to tell ... Good luck finding the right pain reliever for you. Everyone is different so what works for me might not work for you. But you will find the best thing to relieve your pain. So Don't give up or give in to the pain ......



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cehrriins
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Re: . [Re: khixon]
      #228953 - 02/26/05 10:04 PM

Kelli - Counterpressure helps quite a bit at times for me. It usually takes my husband leaning into the right side of my back with his palms for relief. I'll have to try that floor thing the next time my stupid gall bladder goes crazy. Thanks for the tip, Hon!

Sounds like you're having all kinds of things going on in your world right now... If it's a comfort at all, just know that you'll be in my prayers.

Take Care and Keep Up That Smiling!
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