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doggone
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Hydro side effects, especially dental
      #227067 - 02/21/05 11:36 AM

I read or heard a rumor that long-term use of Hydro will cause your teeth to decay! I have searched all I know to search on the side effects of Hydro and do not find that anywhere. Anybody here ever heard of this?

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uga81
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: doggone]
      #227094 - 02/21/05 02:16 PM

No, you got your drugs mixed up. Methamphetimines(sp) will cause your teeth to rot. I saw the news report on it last week. I guess that's not good news in the Applachian mountains. Now, the cops think everyone is doing meth! Hydro only effects your hearing if you take it too often and too much sort of like Rush. What did you say?
That's what I know or don't know. If someone has the facts and they aren't the same then I'll change my story.
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Benton
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: doggone]
      #227095 - 02/21/05 02:31 PM

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Do drugs cause tooth decay?

Do penicillin, tetracycline, Vicodin, codeine, Percodan and other prescription drugs cause decay? What about commonly abused drugs like heroin, Ecstasy, meth, codein, cocaine and crack?

The answer is a qualified NO!!! The only drugs that can cause decay by themselves are those liquid suspensions and chewable forms that contain sugar. Even these are rarely used for long enough to cause cavities in the teeth.

Unfortunately, chronic users of these drugs do suffer from lifestyle issues that are associated with their drugs of choice, as well as side effects from some of the drugs themselves which make the user crave sugar. In addition, some drugs have other equally unfortunate effects on the teeth. These include drugs prescribed for legitimate medical conditions and are not associated with addictions or lifestyle choices.


Heroin addicts (as well as addicts of other narcotic drugs such as percodan, oxycodon, Vicodin and codein) experience serious decay in their teeth due to a relentless sweet tooth. Note that this is not a direct effect of the drug itself, but rather a lifestyle tendency stimulated by the drug. In effect, these drugs stimulate a simultaneous addiction to sugary soft drinks which is the proximate (most direct) cause of their tooth decay.

Ecstasy (E), methamphetamines (Speed) cocaine and its younger brother, crack are all biological stimulants and tend to cause serious bruxing (tooth grinding) habits which can result in very seriously abraded ( ground down) teeth. The bruxing, in turn, stimulates the headaches, neck aches and ear aches associated with TMJ syndrome. It has become fashionable for Ravers to carry and use pacifiers in order to avoid the worst effects of the tooth grinding stimulated by Ecstasy. (Raves are all night parties where there are lots of young people, lots of loud music and other entertainment, and generally lots of drugs.) Ecstasy is popular at raves since it makes people feel wired, or more awake and active at these events. Serious bruxing is only one of the unfortunate side effects of ecstasy and the other stimulant drugs mentioned above. These drugs tend to raise body temperature and cause dry mouth which makes sweet soft drinks popular among ravers and addicts.




Source: Tooth Decay and Drugs

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sddml13
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: Benton]
      #227096 - 02/21/05 02:36 PM

wow, thats an interesting site. Im glad I don't have to take that dilantin...man, that looks painfull

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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: uga81]
      #227098 - 02/21/05 02:45 PM

Quote:

No, you got your drugs mixed up. Methamphetimines(sp) will cause your teeth to rot. I saw the news report on it last week. I guess that's not good news in the Applachian mountains. Now, the cops think everyone is doing meth! Hydro only effects your hearing if you take it too often and too much sort of like Rush. What did you say?
That's what I know or don't know. If someone has the facts and they aren't the same then I'll change my story.
Barney




My doc told me that opiates cause a decrease in saliva production. Saliva naturally flushes away some of the decay agents that collect on your teeth. People who use opiates long term need to be aware of this and take more care than the "normal" person..

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snickers
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: doggone]
      #227105 - 02/21/05 02:59 PM

doggone,

this is posted on the today's MSN website. Though it does Not address the issue of certain medications as a cause of carries (cavities). It does provide something else to think about when considering Dental Situations. The article goes like this,

"Taking a Bite out of Headaches
Is your migraine related to your bite?

By Kelly James-Enger
Special to MSN

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As researchers learn more about migraines, they're discovering that a number of things can trigger them — including certain foods, stress and even poor posture. If you suffer from migraines, you may also want to consider whether they are triggered by a problem with your jaw or bite.

You've probably heard of TMJ, but you may not know what it is. TMJ refers to the temporomandibular joint, the hinge joint on the sides of your head where your lower jawbone joins the temporal bone of your skull. A TMJ disorder originates from this spot and can trigger migraines.

If you are a migraine sufferer who also experiences pain in your jaw or around your ears, it may be a TMJ problem that's aggravating your migraine. Often people don't associate headaches with dental problems and look for other causes, says dentist Peter DeRose, who practices in Buffalo, N.Y. But a problem with the TMJ — or the muscles or neuromuscular system in this area — can lead to headaches and migraines.

The Link
Many people with TMJ problems clench and grind their teeth at night, and awaken with a sore jaw — and possibly a migraine as well. The reason appears to be that the sensory nerve that transmits signals from the TMJ is linked with the part of the brain-stem center that is involved in migraine pain, says Dr. Fred Frietag, associate director of the Diamond Headache Clinic in Chicago.

Yet the relationship between jaw pain and migraines isn't an absolute cause-and-effect situation, says dentist Steven Graff-Radford, co-director of the Pain Center at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. "If you have headaches and you treat the bite, you will see a modification in the frequency of headaches," he says. But because researchers tend to lump different kinds of headaches — like sinus, tension and migraine — together, it's difficult to determine why the headaches are improving. It may be due to treating the TMJ problem or to other factors such as the placebo effect of seeing a doctor, says Graff-Radford.

It is clear that a TMJ disorder that causes inflammation in the jaw joint can serve as a potential trigger for migraine sufferers. Yet an abnormality in your bite alone may not cause migraines. "With population studies, there are millions of people who have abnormalities in their bites and don't get headaches," says Graff-Radford. "So therefore there is not enough evidence to suggest that fixing the bite will directly affect the migraine headache."

Diagnosing the problem
If you suspect you have a TMJ problem that may be linked to your migraines, your dentist should examine your bite for signs like tooth wear or chipping, says DeRose. You may also have pain in the jaw, near your ears, or that radiates up the side of your head.

Even if you don't have these symptoms, your doctor should rule out a potential TMJ trigger. "If you have migraines, the doctor should examine the jaw joint," says Graff-Radford. "If there's a positive jaw joint finding it should be addressed to reduce the frequency of headaches," To diagnose a TMJ disorder, a person must meet three out of four criteria — limited range of motion, pain when the jaw joint is examined, joint noise like popping or cracking, and functional pain, or pain upon chewing. Some people with TMJ find that wearing a device called an "anterior deprogrammer," or mouth guard that keeps the back teeth separated, reduces night grinding and clenching, and lessens jaw soreness.

Check it out
Don't rule out a TMJ or dental problem as a source or trigger of your migraines, says DeRose. If you do have one, addressing it may in fact reduce the number of migraines you have. "Anytime you have a headache — whether it's migraine or other forms of headache — you can aggravate or trigger that headache with what we call afferent [nerve] stimulation, whether it's coming from the neck or the jaw joint or the sinuses or any other structure," says Graff-Radford. "Therefore if you see an abnormality in those areas, treatment of those areas can reduce the frequency of headaches."

Yet he adds that it's important that your doctor determine what type of head pain you're experiencing in addition to diagnosing a TMJ problem to properly treat you. "You don't only want to treat the headache by addressing the jaw," says Graff-Radford. "If it's migraine, you also want to use acute migraine therapy."

Kelly James-Enger is a writer specializing in health, fitness and nutrition, and co-author of "Small Changes, Big Results" (Clarkson Potter/Random House, February, 2005) and other books. She owns BodyWise Consulting, which shares practical, real-life fitness, nutrition and wellness information with a variety of audiences."

Though, instead of using a pacifier, they mention using the following for grinding of teeth. "Some people with TMJ find that wearing a device called an "anterior deprogrammer," or mouth guard that keeps the back teeth separated, reduces night grinding and clenching, and lessens jaw soreness."

Hope that helps,

Snickers

Edited by snickers (02/21/05 03:01 PM)


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Benton
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: sddml13]
      #227106 - 02/21/05 03:03 PM

Yes, that Dilantin mouth looks really painfull!

Here is another site I found..

Quote:

Side Effects

Some people on methadone programs will experience unwanted symptoms during their treatment. These may be caused by the dosage they are receiving being too low or too high, which can occur particularly at the beginning of treatment. Some symptoms may also occur due to the side effects of the drug itself.

Symptoms of the methadone dose being too low may resemble having a bout of the flu. They include:

Runny nose, sneezing
Abdominal cramps
Feeling physically weak
Loss of appetite
Tremors
Muscle spasm and jerking
Goose bumps
Tears
Nausea/vomiting
Yawning
Diarrhea
Back and joint aches
High temperature but feeling cold
Sweating
Irritability/aggression/feelings of uneasiness
Difficulty sleeping
Cravings for the drug
A person who suddenly stops taking methadone may experience many of the symptoms listed above. The withdrawal symptoms usually begin one to three days after the last dose, and peak around the sixth day, but can last longer.

Symptoms of too high a dose include:

Drowsiness/nodding off
Nausea/vomiting
Shallow breathing
Pinpoint pupils
Below normal drop in body temperature
Slow blood pulse, lowered blood pressure
Heart palpitations
Dizziness
Problems with sexual functioning
Poor blood circulation
Some people may also experience certain side effects that are unrelated to the dosage including:

Sweating (clients should drink at least two quarts of water per day to avoid dehydration)
Constipation
Aching muscles and joints
Lowered sex drive
Skin rashes and itching
Sedation
Fluid retention
Loss of appetite, nausea/vomiting
Abdominal cramps
Tooth decay
Irregular periods

Side effects should diminish soon after the methadone program is completed. As with all opiates, methadone alone in its pure form will not cause any damage to the major organs of the body. Prolonged use will not cause any physical damage, apart from tooth decay.

For those with pre-existing impaired liver function (following conditions such as hepatitis B, hepatitis C infection, or prolonged alcohol use), the methadone dose may require careful monitoring.

People who are not dependent on opiates who take methadone will experience some of the short-term effects similar to those on a methadone program receiving too high a dose (as listed above).

Giving methadone to a person who is not on a methadone program is very dangerous. Even small amounts of methadone taken by someone not used to opiates can lead to overdose.




Methadone Side Effects

Even here with Methadone it says only with prolonged use and even at that it is far down the list of most common side effects.

I think it has a lot to do with Grinding of the Teeth, which is common for people on medication that gives a stimulant effect, which some people claim to feel from Hydrocodone. If the teeth are being warn away from grinding, anything will cause decay. But the medication may be causing the Grinding. My Opinion.

B.


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uga81
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: Benton]
      #227327 - 02/22/05 08:22 AM

Whew! Was that a British site?

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hope46
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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: gandalf431]
      #227346 - 02/22/05 09:06 AM

Gandalf,
You are correct! The decay is caused from 'dry mouth' which can be a side effect of opiates! I have seen a lot of it. The decay rate is slower and usually not as severe as the problems caused from Meth use...we call it "Meth Mouth", but decay caused from opiate use is definately a problem too! ( I have been a Dental Hygienist for 25 years).-Hope


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Re: Hydro side effects, especially dental [Re: Benton]
      #228690 - 02/25/05 11:47 PM

Quote:

Do penicillin, tetracycline, Vicodin, codeine, Percodan and other prescription drugs cause decay? What about commonly abused drugs like heroin, Ecstasy, meth, codein, cocaine and crack?

The answer is a qualified NO!!! The only drugs that can cause decay by themselves are those liquid suspensions and chewable forms that contain sugar. Even these are rarely used for long enough to cause cavities in the teeth.

Unfortunately, chronic users of these drugs do suffer from lifestyle issues that are associated with their drugs of choice, as well as side effects from some of the drugs themselves which make the user crave sugar. In addition, some drugs have other equally unfortunate effects on the teeth. These include drugs prescribed for legitimate medical conditions and are not associated with addictions or lifestyle choices.


Heroin addicts (as well as addicts of other narcotic drugs such as percodan, oxycodon, Vicodin and codein) experience serious decay in their teeth due to a relentless sweet tooth. Note that this is not a direct effect of the drug itself, but rather a lifestyle tendency stimulated by the drug. In effect, these drugs stimulate a simultaneous addiction to sugary soft drinks which is the proximate (most direct) cause of their tooth decay.

Ecstasy (E), methamphetamines (Speed) cocaine and its younger brother, crack are all biological stimulants and tend to cause serious bruxing (tooth grinding) habits which can result in very seriously abraded ( ground down) teeth. The bruxing, in turn, stimulates the headaches, neck aches and ear aches associated with TMJ syndrome. It has become fashionable for Ravers to carry and use pacifiers in order to avoid the worst effects of the tooth grinding stimulated by Ecstasy. (Raves are all night parties where there are lots of young people, lots of loud music and other entertainment, and generally lots of drugs.) Ecstasy is popular at raves since it makes people feel wired, or more awake and active at these events. Serious bruxing is only one of the unfortunate side effects of ecstasy and the other stimulant drugs mentioned above. These drugs tend to raise body temperature and cause dry mouth which makes sweet soft drinks popular among ravers and addicts.




Source: Tooth Decay and Drugs

B.




From my understanding, the ingestion of tetracycline by a pregnant woman can cause a type of birth defect which causes enamel discoloration and tooth decay in the developing child.

I know this has nothing to do with opiates, but interesting information.

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