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UN: Stop the illegal internet drug sellers
March 03 2004
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Buy Xanax. Super-Viagra at cheap rates. Vicodin without a prescription. For most people, emails with subject lines such as these just make them hit delete. For some people, though, they're a way to buy drugs without going to a doctor. And the UN's drugs body has had enough.
The International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), part of the UN, published its annual report today, highlighting the rise in drug trafficking over the internet and calling for governments to put more effort into tackling the problem.
While most people regard emails from internet pharmacies as annoying spam, Hamid Ghodse of the INCB said this morning that the problem was "extremely serious". The drug sellers are exploiting a lucrative market including those who have taken pharmaceuticals in the past and are now addicted to them, those wanting to avoid getting their drugs from a registered doctor and those who want to take several types of drug at once.
The INCB says that it has incepted "significant quantities" of drugs in mail centres such as Thailand and India and believes that a lot of the pharmaceuticals illegally sold over the web come from Pakistan. However, the sheer volume of mail that goes through the world's sorting offices every day can make tracking down the culprits particularly difficult.
It's not happy with the marketing men either, saying that those advertising the products are understating the risks. For example, Ritalin, used for children with hyperactivity disorders and known to attract a high rate of abuse, was being advertised by some internet pharmacies as a "mild and harmless stimulant".
Recent research by Computing Which? confirmed that meeting safety standards isn't the first thing on the internet pharmacies' mind. Very few of the pharmacies that Computing Which? visited performed any medical checks, taking the data given by the buyer over the internet as genuine. In most cases, all that was needed to get the drugs was a credit card, with the pharmacies repudiating their responsibility in disclaimers.
According to mail-filtering firm Clearswift, the rise in drug-related spam during the past few months has been phenomenal. Pharmaceutical spam made up 18 per cent of all junk mail in September 2003, but in February this year, it made up 59 per cent.
Peter Simpson, manager of ThreatLab at Clearswift, said that the illegal pharmaceutical trade has been using legitimate pricing concerns to tempt users to buy from the internet. "The black marketers have seen a good opportunity for social engineering. The price differentials across various countries open up a lot of opportunities for them" by fooling users into thinking there's a genuine reason for the illegal pharmaceuticals to be sold at a reduced price.
The solution, according to the INCB, is to tighten up the "uneven and lax implementation" of laws surrounding internet pharmacies and encourage greater international co-operation between governments, the lack of which it says is preventing rogue pharmacies being brought to justice.
The varying laws and regulations that exist between countries are both a help and hindrance, the INCB says, with the drugs regularly travelling internationally and making it harder for the authorities to find their sources, while, on the other hand, ensuring that drug traffickers are facing harsher penalties if they violate international law, as well as the laws in their home countries.
The report says that a public misconception that buying pharmaceuticals such as antidepressants over the internet isn't as bad as buying illegal drugs on the street is hampering efforts to stop the internet trade in drugs.
INCB would like to see mail administration, customs and excise and the law worldwide to work closer together and make sure that when the miscreants are caught, they receive "adequate penalties."
The online community is taking the threat of internet drug peddlers seriously. Last year search giant Google said it would put a stop to unlicensed drug dealers buying advertisements on its website, taking the lead from rivals Microsoft and Yahoo
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zolstone64
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This thread and posting is a laugh. Everyone basically sounds guilty of something, remember , we are legit patients in pain?! We are the customers, we aren't offering the service. Why would UPS or FED EX be upset over increased business and increased profits? Not all OP transactions are COD's? I own a business and many of my other shipments are COD , for the business. My UPS driver, and FED EX, coul;d care less what I am getting, as long as it isn't moving inside:)
Business is business, for the OP's, Patients and courier services, all three are profiting from the service provided by op's. Nothing to get your undies in a bundle. When you act guilty then you are guilty. We are legitimate patients in pain. Take a step back and read these postings...it sounds like a bunch of high schoolers trying to score some beer, but are afraid of getting busted.
WE, AS CONSUMERS ARE PATRONIZING A LEGITAMIATE SERVICE, IF YOU ABUSE THE SYSTEM THEN MAYBE WORRY A LITTLE BIT, BUT LIKE MOST , YOU ARE IN PAIN AND THE SERVICES OFFER MAKE YOUR DAILY LIVING ACCEPTABLE. This is not a crime..opps sorry about the caps..
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I have to agree with you.. If you are in pain , records or no records...Everyone benifits. We do, ops do, ups & fedex do. As you stated take a step Back and read the posts. Well stated...
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RichTea
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thank you for your detailed post. i better order 10 times as much before any crack down. lol
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The UN is all about issueing statements. That is where it starts and ends. They are a joke. forget them, nobody pays any attention to them anyhow
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hibbs
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not to mention the story is a year old!!!
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TEAPOT
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The un are ran by a bunch of crooks.I hope to god the usa gets out before its too late.Maybe the leader will get his day with fire for the [censored] he has caused.Here in florida you see bumber stickers on hundreds of cars reading the un sucks.
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teapot, i second that!
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ikestormu11
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The UN does suck. We (America) have known that and have rarely followed any of the UN's lousy deceisons in the last several years. Hopefully the world will take some of its hatred (fueled by jealousy) of America and place it on the UN.
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If you really believe world hatred of this country is fueled by jealosy you are living in the twilight zone. I have been in many many countries - and trust me - places like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Spain etc are NOT jealous of us - they think we are ignorant and arrogant - and you know what - they are 100% right!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are also warmongerers, hypocrites and have an administration that is going to be the ruination of what was once a great country. I call the country as it is now the United Corporation of Amerika!!!!!!!!!
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cascadia
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The "war on drugs" is always a convenient way to divert attention from much more serious problems in out Country, and in this case the world. The UN's days are numbered, I'm afraid.
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Personally, I hope the UN does stop all these illegal, dangerous internet drugs. After that, I hope they then go after motorcycles. Lots of people are hurt on motorcycles. Then I hope they initiate a ban on diving boards - very dangerous, those! And steak knives! Someone could get cut!!! Then let's ban sky-diving, driving, eating meat, sports, music concerts (one's ears could be damaged!), bath tubs (very slippery!) and all toys except Nerf balls. Finally, when every single PERSONAL choice that might cause someone to (gasp!) TAKE A CHANCE AND GET HURT, is gone, we can have the government fund a national effort to wrap every one of us in bubble wrap and be placed in rooms with rubber floors and padded walls. Finally, we'll ALL be completely SAFE!
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Lablady2
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Gotta hand it to you - you are really really funny and I do agree with a lot of what you have to say - everything today is CYA - but when it comes to online pharmacies there is a darker and more hidden agenda that is just to long to go into here on these boards. The war on drugs is a joke - how do you think the Black Budget is funded - and boy oh boy is the administration ever happy that the Taliban is gone and the poppies are a bloomin over in Afghan land - even though Rummy was over there tearing out what is left of the hair on his disgusting head - moaning and groaning that the poppies are being grown. It is just that so many people do not catch on to what is really going on......
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Agreed, ask the Rwandans (and New Yorkers, for that matter). Mr. Kofi Annan was the UN Africa man in charge during the Rwand tradegy. Not to mention Sudan. It is sadly, not a joke, but a crime. Best kept off the board - the UN.
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lmay769
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Kids can bite into Nerf balls and choke on them. 
I could not agree with you more. Where are those bed railings I took off my kids beds 10 years ago??
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MetsFan
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Trampoulines without sides are a major cause of injury for children. We can go on and on. But we can't forget the biggest single killer, of families and individuals, alcohol.
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ikestormu11
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Therion LMAO! What they MUST do away with first and foremost are those oh so dangerous cheese straighteners. Therion I'm sure you'll agree.
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ikestormu11
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I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself and your country. One more thing if it weren't for our "war mongoring" country, the French would be speaking German.
Edited by Melody (01/27/05 08:58 AM)
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MetsFan
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I agree, but We'd also be speaking German, or Russian.
Edited by Melody (01/27/05 09:03 AM)
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lmay769
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I believe you should be able to say whatever you feel, however don't speak for the rest of us and if this truely the way feel you should move to one of those 'many many countries' you've been to.
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TEAPOT
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Mr. Kofi Annan should be strung up in a tall tree.Oil for food is just 1 of his many crimes and trust me when our troops get put under his control we can all kiss our butts goodbye.Saddam was a good man compared to this sweet talking freak.
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Re: UN: Stop the illegal internet d...Pro-UN & other comment [Re: ikestormu11]
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I did not want to get involved in a political discussion on the normally helpful db boards.
But when I saw this quote being agreed to
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One more thing if it weren't for our "war mongoring" country, the French would be speaking German.
by others, I just had to make a comment. If it were not for the French people back in the 1780s, there would probably BE NO USA as we know it. Please go back and read about the American Revolution and how WE were saved by French help.
One comment on the UN. Have you ever thought about the wars and killings the UN has probably stopped by its very existence, as a place for people/countries to gather and talk? Granted, it is bureaucratic and has not stopped all wars and killing. Humans will always do that to each other. The UN is run by people, for people, and so is prone to error. I really believe the UN serves a useful function and feel it has stopped more killing and wars than we can even begin to imagine.
I am not trying to make anyone angry. Just sharing my opinion. (since 1654 many of my ancestors have fought, died and lost body parts for my right to express that opinion).
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The names Lafayette and Yorktown come to mind....Thank You Angie A.!!!
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