hydrocode
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In the "hydrocodones on ebay" thread, a user posted a question regarding the legality of buying scripts online. I think this subject deserves it's own thread.
So has anyone, themselves, been investigated, prosecuted, or gotten in any sort of trouble as a result of buying sched III or IV meds from an OP that fills the script from a legitimate US pharmacy that makes you pay for a doctor consult? All the accounts that I have ever heard were 2nd or 3rd hand, and lacked details of any kind, leading me to believe that it is simply "scarelore" or popular myth. As someone pointed out on another board, it is pretty complicated to get a business license and permits from the goverment regulating athorities to dispense scheduled drugs, so these businesses have to be (for the most part) operating legally. Many people seem to think they will almost never go after the "little guys", rather go after the supplier.
Replies would be greatly appreciated!
Edited by hydrocode (01/13/05 08:34 PM)
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Lablady2
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Never used an OP in my life - use IOP's - and have found one with a domestic option so no chance of seizure. Only order diazepam sched IV - have received two seizure letters prior to using the place with the domestic option - or as we call them "love letters" - but I don't know of one documentated case where they came after the "little guy" - occasionally someone will post something on here or the VIP board - VIP board loves this kind of stuff and will scare you to death. I have received nothing but support when I received my seizure letters and no one told me anyone came looking for them - but with this administration it seems to be getting worse and worse so am not going to press my luck. Re OP's - if you have an MD consult - why would they come after you - if they want to go after anyone it would be the MD who did the consult...........
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hydrocode
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Re OP's - if you have an MD consult - why would they come after you - if they want to go after anyone it would be the MD who did the consult...........
That was my thought, and (I guess) would be the defense if you ran into any problems. I have noticed (not intended to sound prejidiced in any way) that all of the most of the doctor's names are hispanic/south american. My theory is that they find doctors who got a PHD out of the country, transfered to the US, and who dont really care if they lose thier license in the next year or two. When things start to look shady they close up shop and go home with a fortune.... just a theory>>>
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THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE HORSES MOUTH - VERY SCARY- FROM www.DEA.COM
Turn In Pharmaceutical Pill Pushers Confidentially
Call 1-877-RxAbuse
DEA Unveils International Toll-Free Hotline to Report Illegal Prescription Drug Sales and Rogue Pharmacies Operating on the Internet
DEA has launched a toll-free international hotline to report the illegal sale and abuse of pharmaceutical drugs. People now will be able to provide anonymous telephone tips about the diversion of prescription drugs into the illegal market by individuals and suspicious Internet pharmacies. In addition, such information can be reported online through the DEA Webpage.
According to DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy, For the first time -- with one simple call -- people in the United States and Mexico have an anonymous, safe, and free way to bring information about suspected illegal pharmaceutical distribution to DEA. This information will greatly assist us in bringing drug dealers to justice and preventing the tragedies that come from prescription drug abuse.
Abuse of certain prescription drugs -- controlled substances such as pain killers and performance enhancing steroids -- has become an increasingly widespread problem in the United States, leading to dangerous abuse, addiction and sometimes fatalities. The 2003 National Survey on Drug Use and Health reports 6.3 million persons currently use prescription medications non-medically.
DEA is particularly interested in hearing from families whose loved one has overdosed or died as a result of obtaining pharmaceuticals over the Internet. Tips including the Web addresses will help us put these pill pushers out of business, Tandy stated. Anonymous reports will be taken at 1-877-RxAbuse or can be made online at www.dea.gov by clicking on a link and filling out an electronic form.
According to data collected by the Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN), since 1995 the number of drug abuse-related emergency room visits involving pain relievers such as Vicodin, Percocet, OxyContin and Darvon, increased 153 per cent from (from 42,857 to 108,320). One out of every ten high school seniors now reports abusing powerful prescription pain killers.
Preliminary data from the Partnership for a Drug-Free Americas Attitude Tracking Study suggests that many adolescents do not consider pharmaceutical drug abuse risky. Unless attitudes change, more teens may be willing to experiment with these types of drugs in the future.
DEAs prescription drug abuse hotline is up and running. We expect callers will provide leads that will help root out offenders and shut down their illegal operations. But our work doesnt stop here. We are also meeting with citizen groups, health professionals, businesses, civic leaders, and educators across the country to let the American public know that prescription drugs are dangerous when misused and potentially fatal. This is a critical message for Americas youth,the Administrator added.
In March of this year, DEA, the Office of National Drug Control Policy, the Food and Drug Administration, and the Surgeon General announced a coordinated, comprehensive plan to address the problem of prescription drug abuse as part of the Presidents 2004 National Drug Control Strategy. This prescription drug abuse hotline is one piece of the strategy.
In a related piece of the Presidents National Strategy, DEA also is pursuing illegal Internet drug operations. A flashing notice on the DEA Webpage (www.dea.gov) already enables people to report suspicious Internet pharmacies online. With a click of the mouse, people can pull up a simple form that allows them to get this information to DEA in a timely fashion. Since the web notice went up in June, we have received 810 tips.
Callers will be able to make confidential reports by dialing toll free 1-877-RxAbuse
(1-877-792-2873) around the clock, 365 days per year. The hotline will be staffed by bilingual operators housed at DEA's El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC). This is a toll free call from Mexico as well.
During normal business hours the caller will be connected directly to someone at the responsible DEA Domestic Field Office. After-hours tips will be forwarded by an internal, secure E-mail system, for further investigation and follow-up, by DEA Agents and Investigators.
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fishinpanic
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Since the web notice went up in June, we have received 810 tips.
Well that might help explain the loss of so many NROP's. It seems like they're targeting really sketchy pharmacies (i.e. mexrx) or individuals selling pills to kids or something. I don't see them going after record OP's for awhile...but that day will come.
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 Re: Legal troubles - buying scripts from US Online Pharmacie [Re: fishinpanic]
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They should be more concerned with the drugs they "approve"
and latter find out they have caused the death of over 40000 people! The history of the government in medicine is a diaster........Who approved herion?
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goodegg
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Hey all, I'm a new member. I've suffered from heriated discs in my lumber region my whole adult life. I've been on hydrocodone before and it's the only thing that helps. Can't currently find a doctor who will prescribe it. I need to find an online U.S. pharmacy with U.S. doctors that will write hydrocodone scripts and meet the following characteristics: Online consult only (no phones or personal visits; been that route), no prior script needed; and will deliver to a PO Box (I'm currently in transition between homes, e.g no signature necessary); and will accept credit cards, western union, or money gram. I know this must sound like unrealistic expectations but I figure posting this is wotrh a try.
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fbd
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I would strongly recommend Doctor-appointments.com for your IOP. I have had wonderful service from this doctor. He is legit and knows his stuff. The customer service is just top notch. I do not think you will find any IOP that will deliver to a POBox. A signature is always required for this class of med. How about shipping to a neighbor or to your work address? Best of luck.
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webepi42
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How anonomise (sp) do you REALLY think any of this would be? You can be tracked w/ cookies and phone are oh so very easy to trace. Even with call blocks and such. Please does the DEA/Feds really think the American Public is that stupid? (of course we all know so are but....) I doubt any of this [censored] from the dea is really confindential. Maybe they would not tell how told on a site but they would track the person who told as well as the site. What do you all think?
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hibbs
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I need to find an online U.S. pharmacy with U.S. doctors that will write hydrocodone scripts and meet the following characteristics: Online consult only (no phones or personal visits; been that route), no prior script needed; and will deliver to a PO Box (I'm currently in transition between homes, e.g no signature necessary); and will accept credit cards, western union, or money gram. I know this must sound like unrealistic expectations but I figure posting this is wotrh a try.
Goodegg, you were right, your request is unrealistic for an OP,if you go with a records OP you will have to talk to a doctor! But if you find a NROP that is delivering then maybe you can get what you need but most only accept money orders and won't deliver to a PO box; and both, ROP's and NROP's do require signatures when delivered. If you go with a IOP then expect waiting a week to a month for delivery, that's if makes it past customs. Your best bet is wait till you move to a permanent address and get your records together and go with a records OP!! Hope any of this helps!
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hydrocode
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so anyway...
has anyone, themselves, been investigated, prosecuted, or gotten in any sort of trouble as a result of buying sched III or IV meds from an OP that fills the script from a legitimate US pharmacy that makes you pay for a doctor consult?
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goodegg
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Thankyou for your interest and response.
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goodegg
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Thankyou for your the advice.
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goodegg
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By the way, what do NROP, OP, IOP stand for. (excuse the naivete)
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ShopperMom
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By the way, what do NROP, OP, IOP stand for. (excuse the naivete)
NROP = No Record Online Pharmacy
OP = Online Pharmacy
IOP = International Online Pharmacy
You're not nieve, just learning like the rest of us.
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TEAPOT
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If parents would start using the leather strap on their teens the dea would not have to waste our tax money going after their dealers.My lord all the schools are full of crack and hoods full of gangs.lets bomb the hoods and street gangs and bust the kids buts and let the dea go back to eating doughnuts all day.arent srteet gangs the same as a terror group?their only purpose is killing...i think we have a military that should be used on these gangs and for Gods sake dont put them in front of a judge.
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If parents would start using the leather strap on their teens the dea would not have to waste our tax money going after their dealers.My lord all the schools are full of crack and hoods full of gangs.lets bomb the hoods and street gangs and bust the kids buts and let the dea go back to eating doughnuts all day.arent srteet gangs the same as a terror group?their only purpose is killing...i think we have a military that should be used on these gangs and for Gods sake dont put them in front of a judge.
You do realize that it is the Drug War that finances these gangs, right? Declare war on drugs, cut supply, prices go up, and anyone who doesn't mind breaking the law can make huge profits.
Sounds like you just want to fight the war harder. Pretty standard big-government approach: See a problem, create some more problems to go with it. If a solution is doing more harm than good, do more of it.
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