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Daeshay76
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pain meds and weight gain
      #210194 - 12/26/04 02:02 PM

I am wondering if pain meds have anything to do with weight gain....about 4 months ago i was at 125 and then that is the time i started going to my pain clinic and the other day i was at my PCP office and they weighed me and i am at 148. I only eat once a day and wheni do eat its not very much at all...so i dont see how i have gained this much so fast...i need to get rid of this and cant exercise due to my pain and i need to know what meds are out there to take to get rid of this quickly...also does pain meds make you retain water as well?? TIA

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210200 - 12/26/04 02:48 PM

I know that when I take pain meds that I often eat more to keep my stomach from geting upset to the meds. In fact, sometimes I find myself eating a ton of fating icecream to calm my stomach down.... any chance this could be the issue?

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: DigitFreedom]
      #210208 - 12/26/04 03:51 PM

since i became ill with an auto immune illness that causes alot of joint and bone pain, plus herniated my third disc, i have gained weight(about 12 stubborn pounds). i truly believe it is because my activity level is much lower and i spend more time sedentary due to pain. however, narcotic meds are notorious for causing a sweet tooth, which i never had until lately. they also slow down some body functions so why not metabolism as well?
some people are carbohydrate sensitive and will gain weight on a diet high in carbs(sweets) but low in calories. i only eat once a day in the middle of the day and have recently lost 8 lbs since going on wellbutrin. it is a great appetite suppressant, as well as anti-depressant.
the wellbutrin has helped with my energy level as well. good luck with your dilemma, it is a catch-22 situation.

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: rojoreina]
      #210210 - 12/26/04 04:40 PM

Yea I keep falling off my bike.

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Daeshay76
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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Trey_McC]
      #210215 - 12/26/04 05:26 PM

actually i dont eat that much at all...i eat once a day and that something very small and im not a snacker so i dont snack around on junk food at all and many days i forget to eat....so its not that i am eating alot because im really not i need to eat more but with this weight gain i forbid to....its going to be gone soon i will find something to take it off or i will just go without eating until its gone....lol i have never ever been this heavy not even when i was pregnant with my 2 sons...never....this is driving me crazy crazy crazy

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: rojoreina]
      #210263 - 12/27/04 03:36 AM

I tend to agree with you, rojoreina. Pain medication seems to inhibit the desire for physical activity, strenuous or otherwise, at least in my experience. Without exercise I slowly pack on the poundage as does everyone else. And the sweet-tooth effect kicks in, making it that much worse.

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lela
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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210266 - 12/27/04 04:31 AM

I don't know what kind of pain meds you are taking, but hydro always killed my appetite. However, from the reading I've done about hydro it says to use caution if you have any thyroid conditions or problems. It seems to mess with the thyroid and the entire glandular system. In fact, it was mentioned on the info. sheet that came with my script, that's why I researched it. The last thing I need is something else stressing my thyroid and adrenal glands, not to mention weight gain!

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Daeshay76
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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: lela]
      #210273 - 12/27/04 07:18 AM

actually i have over active thyroid but no no desire to eat while i take my meds i am on avinza 60mg 2 times a day and percs 4 times a day and kloponin1mg 3 times a day...so i have no idea what it is

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: fred_s]
      #210300 - 12/27/04 09:09 AM

I disagree with the pain meds cause weight gain. Since i've been on hydro i've lost 50 pounds, but that maybe cause I quit drinking when I started poppin pills

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210302 - 12/27/04 09:15 AM

You don't say specifically what meds your on. Narcotics, like hydro, oxycontin, percocet, etc generally decrease the appetite ^& hence cause a decrease in weight. However some other meds docs often prescribe in addition to pain meds such as Neurontin, some antidepressants, etc can & do cause weight gain...I gained alot of weight when I went on neurontin & an antidepressant I can't remember the name of right now caused me to gain alot of weight, when I went off them & just continued with the narcotics, I lost all the weight & then some...so that's my two cents.

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Express Services open today?? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #210303 - 12/27/04 09:20 AM

Does anyone knowif Express Sercices is open today? I need to re-fill and keep getting the machine, which is veru unusual.
Thanks for any feedback...


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Re: Express Services open today?? [Re: chrissyCA]
      #210315 - 12/27/04 09:55 AM

I think everyone who's tried ERS has gotten the machine lately, they say just keep trying.

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Re: Express Services open today?? [Re: Mac123]
      #210338 - 12/27/04 11:59 AM

I spoke with someone earlier today and "supposedly" from
an earlier email last week, they were going to ship my
refill out to me today but when I called to confirm and get the COD amount the lady told me they would have COD totals
and tracking numbers after 5pm today and they would be
calling me back with that info.

I asked her if she needed my name and phone number and she
said no so I hung on the phone for a few seconds hoping she would realize when she was saying but she ended it at that.

I would assume they have callerid and aer hopefully trying to get everyones orders out today and MAYBE that's why their
not answering but I'm not holding my breath for a callback as they close at 5pm EST.

I imagine I'll have to call tomorrow early AM and get the
COD total and then rush to get the money order, that is IF
they processed my order today.


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Daeshay76
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Pain meds and weight gain [Re: chrissyCA]
      #210353 - 12/27/04 12:55 PM

im glad this thread went to another whole new topic...maybe i didnt need answers to what i asked in the first place....hey thanks....maybe start a new thread on what you need to know

Edited by Daeshay76 (12/27/04 01:14 PM)


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Re: Express Services open today?? [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210355 - 12/27/04 01:08 PM

They are open today. I had to call & call & call & call about a bazillion times before speaking to Holly & my refill should be here tomorrow (KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED!)

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lela
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Re: Pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210363 - 12/27/04 01:44 PM

Research the meds that you are taking. And, I hate to bring this up and I don't know your age, but maybe the hormone "thing" has something to do with it. Would like to help anyway I can. PM me if you want. I took off 18lbs. using natural things only while still taking my meds, just can't take them at the same time, not even amino acids. L-Carnitine and L-Tyrosine are a good combo for natural weight loss and they have done studies with L-Tyrosine, with remarkable results, for depression. Worked wonders for me.

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210375 - 12/27/04 03:39 PM

Quote:

actually i dont eat that much at all...i eat once a day and that something very small and im not a snacker so i dont snack around on junk food at all and many days i forget to eat....so its not that i am eating alot because im really not i need to eat more but with this weight gain i forbid to....its going to be gone soon i will find something to take it off or i will just go without eating until its gone....lol i have never ever been this heavy not even when i was pregnant with my 2 sons...never....this is driving me crazy crazy crazy




When you don't eat enough, i.e., Once Per Day, your body naturally slows down it's metabolism. It goes into "starvation mode" and runs as slowly as possible, burns as few calories as possible in order to keep you alive. It's a physical thing, not a psychological thing.

In order to boost your metabolism and lose weight, you need to literally Eat More. Sounds wacked, but it's reality. When you don't eat for a long period of time and then you suddendly Do eat, it causes your body to produce a surge of insulin. When your body produces insulin, it inturn takes all those calories and stores them as fat.

That's why when someone Initially gets diabetes they lose weight. They lose because their body has lost the ability to produce insulin .. when your body can't produce insulin, your body can't store fat .. you lose weight. Then, diabetics have to start taking Insulin Injections and they, many times, tend to gain weight.

If you will maybe try eating every 3 hours... just small snacks, then it will keep your body from producing those surges of insulin and could help in removing some of those pounds.

It will also help your body to increase your metabolic rate wich will also help in losing pounds. When you eat, your body has to work to digest the food.. the process of digestion burns calories. If you're never eating, you're never doing anything to get your body moving. Your body has to burn more calories to digest a cup of green beans than there are calories in green beans.

Also, drink Lots of Water!!! That helps to keep everything moving.

The lack of exercise is a biggie when added to not eating but once a day. I've been exactly where you are now. No kidding that just by eating more often than once per day, I started to lose weight. When I gradually added some exercise, as best as I can, into the equation it made an even bigger difference. Best of Luck to you. I do know how frustrating it is to feel like you should be thin from barely eating, and then get on the scales only to find a gain.. seems to make no sense at all!! But there is a relation.


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lela
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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: spondylo]
      #210381 - 12/27/04 04:01 PM

I also have been in this exact situation and what you said is true and really worked for me; but try to explain this to some.... Thanks for the great post!

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Re: Pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #210439 - 12/27/04 08:26 PM

I took pain meds for years and all I did was pack on the pounds.I dont know why because I was never hungry and didnt eat much,but I gained almost 20 pds.Once I went off them I lost alot of weight.I know in my case it made me gain weight.

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Re: Pain meds and weight gain [Re: susamo829]
      #211694 - 01/02/05 12:28 AM

Not me, I have lost weight. I wonder if you are on anti-d
s have something to do with it. I read you take only the Avinza, percs, and klonopin.

Although I think the zonegran had something to do with it too.

can you guys that want to discuss some other topic start your own thread? Changing it around makes it more difficult for those that want your info, and for the people that are on track for the subject that is in the thread.

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Re: Pain meds and weight gain [Re: trixxie]
      #212023 - 01/03/05 01:52 PM

Trixxie~ I'm the same way, I lose weight taking hydro. When I was taking a pretty high dose of hydro I lost a lot of weight, it got so my medication wasn't effective if I didn't have an empty stomach (I know, that's pretty pathetic.) There is also a condition I read about on the Internet, I'll see if I can try and find it - it was about your liver processing medications when you're not eating much food - bad on the liver.

Anti depressants are real bad about causing weight gain, especially a certain class. Elavil is one of the worst!!!

Also agree with your last statement, I was confused when the subject line and topic changed mid-thread! It's very important for those new to the board to read the the FAQ and rules to learn how to post in the proper forums, etc.


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Re: Pain meds and weight gain [Re: trixxie]
      #212026 - 01/03/05 01:58 PM

As I always feel for most everyone that frequents this website I have to say that right now I "feel" more for myself than most of you that have gained upwards of 15-20 pounds. Of course I am kidding (kind of) as I always feel bad for anyone who is either in pain of has gained undesired weight after an injury or from taking new meds or pain meds. However i do have to say that my situation really bites the big one (and it seems in my case the "big one" is most likely referring to chocolate cake or something fattening like that, ha) as I was saying........I too have gained weight in the past 2 years since my back surgery (failed back surgery I might add, I am in far greater pain every day now than I was prior to going under the knife) and the amount I have gained is just really unacceptable. I have gained.....drum roll please......um, gulp.....a little over 50 pounds. I am pretty sure that most of it is because of my inability to be as active as i was prior to living in this constant pain. I used to work out like a maniac and was in fantastic health. I would go to the gym 3-4 times a week and work over 2 hours each session. I have also been a vegetarian for over 14 years now, with the last 5 of the years I have been a vegan.

Therefore, this significant weight gain as I am sure you can imagine, has been a really difficult thing to deal with. I mean its bad enough I am in constant pain, but I do believe that if I was my normal size 6 that I would not be quite as depressed as I am now. Of course it may sound superficial to many of you out there struggling with chronic pain to hear someone complain about bouts of depression due to not only pain, but also such a hefty weight gain, but thats just the truth of the matter. It is hard to handle seeing my body in this constant state of distress when I used to be so very healthy and my goodness, it was my husband that used to be the "chunky" one in this marriage so watching my waist balloon and his stay the same is believe it or not, probably pay back times ten for him since I used to be the one to push him to work out with me. Now I am barely able to go on a walk without breaking down mid way in tears due to the pain I feel in my back and shooting down my leg. I truly despise the life I now lead.

Anyway......I wanted to add a bit about the possibility of pain meds having something to due with weight gain. One thing no one touched on here is the fact that most pain meds really dehydrate you which is an OK thing if you drink water to replenish yourself rather than soda or fruit drinks like I usually did. Also, the kind of pain meds I am on (oxycontin, oxycodone) really do cause constipation (sorry if that sounds yucky, but hey thats just a fact of life). That constipation can not only reak havoc on your body if it is not tended to in a timely matter (if you know what I mean) but it can also cause you to weigh more if you jump on the scale. Sounds ridiculous but it is a proven fact. Even if you do not feel real constipated the pain meds may be causing your stomach to do some crazy things, so crazy that you really may be constipated without really knowing it, which again will cause an increase on the scale. Sometimes it can be as much as 10 pounds. I know I know, that sounds like a lot of [censored] (ha) but it is not necessarily 10 pounds of um, [censored] that you are dealing with, it can also be part of the dehydration and other factors other than "actual" weight gain that makes the scale read unpleasant numbers.

Now of course if you are unable to zip up your pants it may be more than the superficial constipation bothering you, it could just be the fact that yes indeed pain meds do cause a weight gain. Mostly it is because they lower your inhabitions just like alchol does at times, (you know late night trips to Jack in the Box after a long night of partying, yet when you wake up the next day and weigh yourself you normally find that you have actually lost a few pounds) however alchol is a diuretic, meaning you will lose weight initially after drinking but the moment you drink enough fluids to replenish yourself, the pounds will pour back on. But pain meds are a bit trickier. You may get the munchies when you are feeling good from the pain meds but you will not lose weight either initially or later on from that binge as narcotics do not have the same effect. Of course unless you are snorting cocaine or meth, and in that case you should not be on this website as most likely you are suffering from something far different than the chronic pain most of us are dealing with. Your "chronic pain" is in a whole different ball park than ours.

Anyway, I know I just babbled here and I am sorry, but hey maybe I burned a few finger calories from all this typing. Nevermind the fact that I have been sipping on a regular (not diet darn it) coke while I was sitting here. Darn!!

Hey by the way everyone, I have been trying to locate fenfluramine (pondimin) which is the second half of the phen-fen craze from years back. I do not need lectures about how bad that stuff is as I already am quite versed and knowlegable on the possible side effects of the fenfluramine and phentermine combo that I am searching for.

But it does not matter, I am on a serious hunt for the fenfluramine and if I find the real stuff I am willing to fork over just about as much as the person selling the med asks for (of course within limits....I mean there will be no morgaging og my house for it, which really would be impossible sine....I do not even own a house. HA HA!)

Anyway, if ANYONE has any leads on someone that may be a reliable source for the fenfluramine please oh please let me know. I will be forever grateful!

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Daeshay76
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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: spondylo]
      #214169 - 01/10/05 08:40 PM

sorry the reply was so long but want around the computer for a few weeks but on the insulin thing you had stated.....my body doesnt produce any insuling because i am a type 1 diabetic and i have a insulin pump so when ever i do eat anything i just use my pump and give myself some insulin....also i went to my doc last week and i have lost 3 pounds...it could be that i lost it due to drinking alot of water and being a little more active but still not eating well and have no desire to eat.....my pain doc has also gave me a new med called durgesic which is a patch and i am having the hardest time keeping the thing on.....i just want all this unexpected weight to be gone....im thinking about trying that trimspa....any info on that?

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Re: pain meds and weight gain [Re: Daeshay76]
      #214171 - 01/10/05 08:51 PM

Never known anyone who thought that it worked, but for $30, give it a shot!

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