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what's a little stronger than darvocet?
      #209861 - 12/23/04 10:39 PM

I've had a long running rx for darvocet and it's not working anymore. I doubt very much I've developed a tolerance to it- I only get about 30 pr year.

I'm wondering if there is something a little stronger but not too strong. Maybe in the same drug family. I'm allergic to codiene but tolerate darvocet very well. I like it too because it's a pretty "straightforward" drug. Not like flexerile which is a little weird to me.

It always took the edge off the pain before- but now, by the time I can't tolerate the pain it does nothing.

any ideas appreciated.


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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: popcorn]
      #209863 - 12/23/04 11:14 PM

for one thing you are supposed to take a "pain" drug when you first notice the pain....otherwise the drug probably won't help as well. A good drug that will be a little stronger will be "Darvon compound" It is the same drug but it will have some aspirin in it. And the aspirin and tylenol, which is in the darvocet, together will work better. But don't wait untill the pain is real bad to take it. Drs. will tell you "Stay on top" of the pain. If that doesn't work i would suggest trying a weak hydro/tylenol compound such as 5/500. Hydro is a synthetic codeine. My daughter is allergic to real codeine, but can take hydro, because it is synthetic. But don't take acetomeifen on top of the hydro compound, because you will be giving your liver too much tylenol. Good Luck ...............

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: popcorn]
      #209867 - 12/23/04 11:30 PM

I'm not a doctor. ('always wanted to say that)

I think a lot depends on what kind of pain you suffer from. If for whatever reason you need narcotic pain killers, there isnt really much of an option between Darvocet and Hydrocodone- Normally people compare darvon/darvocet (Propoxyphene) to codeine in strength. Personally I find Propoxyphene stronger than codeine, and you say that your alergic to codeine which would seem to rule that one out. It really would help to know what kind of pain you suffer from.

Have you considered one of the antiinflamation type meds, of which some contain narcotics and others dont? Depending on your problem, one of these might be a better option. Otherwise, if your pain is bad enough perhaps you should discuss it with your doctor and see if hydrocodone would work better. Hydrocodone is a couple levels stronger than Darvocet [imo], and the longer you can put off in making the leap from darvocet to hydrocodone the better. Of corse it all really depends on your type/source/level of pain and doctor's advise.

Your doctor might know of a better option for you than darvocet or hydrocodone.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: popcorn]
      #209888 - 12/24/04 01:14 AM

Darvon or Darvon Compound 65 is a little stronger than Darvocet.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: CARLITOS_WAY]
      #209892 - 12/24/04 02:12 AM

I understood that Darvocet had 100mgs of the narcotic combined with 650mg of tylenol(' cant spell the generic) while Darvon Compound 65 had 65mgs of the narcotic with with aspirin and caffeine.

But, Im too lazy to look it up right now.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: DigitFreedom]
      #209894 - 12/24/04 02:33 AM

Darvocet is is a napsylate (mispelled) not a hydrochloride. Darvocet is a slow peaking..long acting drug, where it takes several hours to peak. The hydrochoride peaks in less than an hour. A good analogy would be methadone and heroin.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: popcorn]
      #209912 - 12/24/04 06:26 AM

Be careful, if you are allergic to codeine there is a good chance that you may experience the same reaction with hydrocodone.

Do speak with your doc about other alternatives.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: DigitFreedom]
      #209919 - 12/24/04 07:34 AM

I always found Darvocet 100 (which has the apap-tylenol etc in it)becuz it does indeed have 100 mg of propoxyphene napsylate (a synthetic semi -opiod) vs 65mg in Darvon 65 (65 mg) stonger. The poster said they get 30 a year? You mean month right? You can always try Talwin nx if you don't tolerate opiates. (It's not a true opiod) The doc won't like to rx it, but if you can't take opiods, your choices are limited. Naprosyn (alleve) is not bad, but otc, now. I like Carlitos analogy of morph/methadone. Very close comparison of hydros vs darv. Good luck.

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Re: what's a little stronger than darvocet? [Re: CARLITOS_WAY]
      #210009 - 12/24/04 03:47 PM

Quote:

Darvocet is is a napsylate (mispelled) not a hydrochloride. Darvocet is a slow peaking..long acting drug, where it takes several hours to peak. The hydrochoride peaks in less than an hour. A good analogy would be methadone and heroin.




Oh, I'm sorry. I never meant to imply that Darvon was a hydrochloride. I was just thinking along the lines that hydrocodone would be the next logical step up to a stronger narcotic pain med than Darvon.

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