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Midazolam - Versed
      #203060 - 11/25/04 12:51 PM

Please use this thread to discuss Midazolam - Versed.

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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: Melody]
      #203062 - 11/25/04 01:15 PM

I'm glad we got this one on the list finally. I know in North America this is a syrup used for pediatric dental exams or IM/IV injectable for pre-op relaxation with good amnesia so you forget who to sue. But this drug is also available from Argentina, Phillipines and Pakistan (and maybe other places)in a pill format (7.5 mg or 15 mg). I have tried a few times and find it very fast acting and short lived (15 mg) and about equivalent to a 2 mg xanax in intensity.

What have been your experiences for sleep or non-sleep anti-anxiety useage. Roche makes it and it is either Dormicum or Versed but they don't seem to target the North American anti-anxiety or sleep market. Why? It may be like Triazolam (Halcion), just to addictive due to its short life.

Please share,

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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: zippy66]
      #203410 - 11/27/04 02:30 PM

Its a strange bird. I have somewhat of a benzo tolerance, and 15mg really does nothing for me. Nice to use as a sleep aid, but nohthing like ambien if you take other benzos.

I have friends who take benzos maybe once a month and love the semi-conscious effect, some do get knocked out, but lowing the dose keeps the person semi conscious. It does tend to cauuse a slight to moderate headache after, in about 1/4 the people I know. No real dependency issues, not like Ambien, or even alprazolam. Tolerance is built very quickly!

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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: Melody]
      #203417 - 11/27/04 03:18 PM

I needed 30mg to sleep - but 15 was OK for anxiety. Watch out for the ammnesia - if you take a dose and then something wakes you up you can end up having to ask - "What city is this? - OK OK - now Which State?" Or other stupid things like "Did you see how I got here?"

Bit then I forget the colour of my rental cars too.


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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: rockystuart]
      #203425 - 11/27/04 04:17 PM

vercid is very easy to od on..use with extreme caution.

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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: Melody]
      #203450 - 11/27/04 06:51 PM

The liquid injectable was featured on the TV show Law & Order with the street name "dazzle." A doctor who had problems with alcohol switched to self-injected midazolam so alcohol wouldn't be on her breath. She ended up getting caught anyway because she stole a bottle from the hospital and kept it in her home fridge.

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Re: Midazolam - Versed [Re: rockystuart]
      #203463 - 11/27/04 08:21 PM

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Bit then I forget the colour of my rental cars too.




What?????????????????????????????????????

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Prosom [Re: lovely11]
      #208975 - 12/20/04 02:38 PM

Ever try Prosom (Estazolam)? What would your comparison be?

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Re: Prosom [Re: zippy66]
      #209014 - 12/20/04 05:12 PM

Pharmaceutical liquid midazolam took about 6 mgs to knock me down.
Quality pills, 7.5 mgs will do it, and typical cheap generics from overseas, 15 mgs.
To give you an idea, a 2 mg xanax makes me a little speedy, and mentally foggy.

Estazolam works to put you asleep, but I find the hangover strong. It lacks the euphoria of its methylated kissing cousin alprazolam.

Nitrazepam falls somewhere between xanax and versed, and the flowering queen of them all is nimetrazepam, now just a legend living on in our hearts...

For me, midazolam is probably the best for plain old sleep.. . And when looking at the dosages above, cut them in half unless your the kind fo bloke that wakes up 3-4 times during surgury when it took 5 attempts to make the anaesthesia put you under.

I love the look of sheer terror on a nurses face when they have your ribs spread, and you pipe up in the middle of surgury, "excuse me, could I have just a little more dilaudid? I can feel you cutting throuhg the cartilege."

This when you are supposed to be under...

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Re: Prosom [Re: Thanatopium]
      #209062 - 12/20/04 08:13 PM

I was given versed as part of the cocktail they gave me before my lumbar injections. Crazy stuff. I remember the doctor doing impressions of Gov. Arnold. I was laughing in my head but couldn't really laugh out loud. And I was thinking to myself "OK this guy is sticking needles in my back and doing impressions. Sure hope he's focusing on the important job here." I was awake the whole time. Just stuck inside myself. Than I passed out in recovery.

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