t_oshan2003
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I have been reading some threads on Soma and also gone to some websites to check out the facts on it. It seams to be a mild pain relaxer, my question is does it have APAP in it? I take tylenol 3's for back pain and when I lift and am sore but hate the fact that it has 300mg of APAP. Would switching to SOMA be a good idea? Would it provide me with the same pain relief? Is it safer or more dangerouse than tylenol 3?
Thanks!
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D2003
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Soma contains no APAP at all. However, I would not recommend taking it just by itself for pain relief. It is a muscle relaxant. Mixed with a proper pain reliever like your Tylenol 3's you will probably find that your pain killer has a more pronounced effect on your pain. Often when we are in pain, we tense up, which makes the pain worse, thus making us tense up more. A combination of Soma and a painkillers works really well at breaking the pain/tension/more pain cycle many of us are in. It is quite safe to take with just about every painkiller I know of. I personally take Hydro 10/160 (a compound) with Soma 4 times a day, and have done for some time. No ill effects at all. Soma can sometimes cause you to feel a little nausea, but a slice of bread with butter just before taking your meds generally overcomes that problem nicely. The only other side effect I have noticed is that it does tend to make you sleepy. I still get that way, even after years of taking it. This is definitely one med you do not want to take at work. Save it for home use when it is okay for you to nod off in front of your computer.
There is one version about that has 175mg of Soma and the rest is APAP, but most sites list it as such so you can avoid it. Full on Soma contains 350mg of the med, and is relatively easy to get almost anywhere.
D2003
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t_oshan2003
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Thanks D2003, I was hoping I could substitute the soma for the tylenol but if you are saying that it won't relieve the pain like the tylenol 3 then I won't bother with adding another med. The tylenol works well but I am concerned about the APAP, I wish I could get the watson 10/325, all I need to do is break one in half and my pain is fine and thats a lot less APAP.
Edited by Melody (02/26/04 04:53 AM)
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JayStraw
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So, is this much more effective than Flexeril or Zanaflex in anyones opinion?
Is it more addictive? I have heard stories of Soma W/D's....
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trixxie
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I like zanaflex better. It just works for me. I have some soma and I alternate it with the zanaflex so it continues to work.
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D2003
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Like all medications, what works for some, may not work at all for others. (We all have different body chemistries.) I did the route of everything else before using Soma. Personally, I don't find it addictive (went three full days without any and didn't feel a thing....well, except tense.) In fact, I can't even find it in the DEA's med schedule. It's considered low end, partly because it is an older med, and partly because it is really, really, really hard to get hooked on it. Sometimes I think the older meds are better than all this new stuff they are prescribing by the bucketful! (That stuff can devolop dependencies in under a week in some cases.)
You will eventually develop a tolerance but it seems to take quite some time, (years even), for that to happen. Can't say that about a lot of the 'modern' meds they are prescribing now.
What I have found is mixing Soma with a painkiller actually lets the painkiller do its job just that much better. I've put several friends onto the combinatiion and many are now taking less painkillers because the Soma won't let them tense up and make what ever pain they do have that much worse. But again, what works for some, does not work for all. No medication is one size fits all...and I really wish doctors would wake up to this fact.
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ace321
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Does anyone know if soma will show up on drug tests, like benzos do? Thank you in advance.
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LumbarSpasm
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I am not aware of a test that tests for this drug.
It is not part of any illegal drug class, is non-opiate, is not a benzodiazepine, is not an amphetamine...does contain THC.
Nope, it will not show up to the best of my knowledge.
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I did the route of everything else before using Soma. Personally, I don't find it addictive (went three full days without any and didn't feel a thing....well, except tense.) In fact, I can't even find it in the DEA's med schedule. It's considered low end, partly because it is an older med, and partly because it is really, really, really hard to get hooked on it. Sometimes I think the older meds are better than all this new stuff they are prescribing by the bucketful! (That stuff can devolop dependencies in under a week in some cases.)
You will eventually develop a tolerance but it seems to take quite some time, (years even), for that to happen. Can't say that about a lot of the 'modern' meds they are prescribing now.
I am in total agreement with the above post and poster. The "older" meds I take are soma (for "lesser" pain,level 6-8) and chloral hydrate (for insomnia).
I've taken each on a daily basis for months (though never concurrently), never built a tolerance, abruptly stopped and never experienced w/d symptoms of any kind.
Many years ago, chloral hydrate came in green gel-pill form. I had refills left but couldn't find a pharmacy that had any.
A few years ago while speaking to a friend (who happens to be a pharmacist and owns two pharmacies but not locally, maybe 25 minutes away) I mentioned "whatever happened to chloral hydrate" and he advised me that the liquid form has been available all along and if I couldn't find a local pharmacy that carries it, he'd be happy to fill a script.
I called around and found only one local pharmacy (a CVS but this is the only local CVS that orders/stocks it) that carries the liquid so I got a script and have been using them since.
Many doctors are reluctant to prescribe this drug (mine isn't thank goodness, probably because he is "older") and I have no idea why - it works, there are no side effects, no tolerance and no withdrawel!
A friend of mine takes it also, but getting his Dr to prescribe was and still is like pulling teeth. He commented to my friend that if he could find a pharmacy that still carries it, then it must be in an area where many elderly people who have been taking the med for years reside - which is true, as is the area where my pharmacist friend's pharmacies are located!!
I wholeheartedly feel the older meds are better than the newer ones.
Does anyone know of an "older" pain med for the very severe (9-10) days? I've tried Vioxx, Flexeril, Amytriptaline(sp) and Neurontin to no avail and I'd love to stop taking hydro.
I've been on it less than a year, and though it does take the edge off and sometimes a bit more, I don't like it (not my idea of fun and hard to believe it's a recreational drug of choice- YUCK) plus the thought of w/d terrifies me!
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I've been taking Soma close to 3 years now, and I could go for weeks without taking any, and not suffer any ill effects. Just recently, I had run out of the Soma and suffered some withdrawal symptoms. They weren't severe, but they were very uncomfortable (have written a thread about it).
IMHO, I think it's great for relieving muscle spasms (I have herniated disks at L4-L5) and to be able to sleep through the night. It also helps to relieve the pain, but that is probably because the spasms I have with my back pain are reduced by the Soma. I've taken Flexeril as well, but all that did was knock me out without really helping to manage my pain and muscle spasms. I really agree with the fact that the older drugs can sometimes be the better ones - they have been around for a longer period of time, there is more information on them and they are not being given to the pharmaceutical reps. by the pharm. companies to the doctors to 'sell', or, ummm, prescribe.
I just have a very negative opinion regarding a lot of the new meds coming out. When I go to the doctor's office, there are pens and notepads and posters on the office wall promoting Lexapro, Celebrex, Vioxx, etc., and these seem to be given out so often (even after I told the doctor that these do NOT work for me).
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Laurelolo23
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Howdy. One of the reasons Soma works so well is that it's first-pass metabolism produces meprobamate, better known as "Miltown." So it tranquilizes as it relieves muscles spams. I agree with you, I've always referred to it as an adjunct medication--something to be taken with my pain medication--and like you, I've tried'em all the little cyclobenazprines that put me down for a nap, the huge Skelaxins that sometimes hit me like a brick wall, and sometimes do nothing at all, but a Soma and a Valium-bingo. My benzo tolerance is a little creepy, but I can live with that.
I would love to drop any narcotic from my daily regime. I guess acupuncture is next is terms of pain control. I have a benign L-1 tumor that has mostly taken over my vertebra, surgery is out and its pressing on a nerve bundle, hence the pain--so since mild yoga is okay, why not stick (really, no pun intended) with the Asian arts, like acupuncture. If its worked for thousands of years, why not now? PT hasn't really gotten me that far, so hey--something new to try. I'll tell you how it goes.
Cheers,
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jmdombr
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Just to let everyone know. When Purchasing SOMA. The WATSON brand Soma is the "DAN" Pills. DAN 5513
Many people get confused thinking this is not watson.
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Just to let everyone know. When Purchasing SOMA. The WATSON brand Soma is the "DAN" Pills. DAN 5513
Many people get confused thinking this is not watson.
DAN is short for Danbury...a pharma in Puerto Rico that Watson purchased.
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I have been doing a lot of research recently about the wide spread problem of fake meds. Online media reports advise that there has been thousands of very weak Soma pills coming into America from Mexico. In fact the goverment has made some very large counterfeit/expired (extremely weak) Soma pill busts near the Mexican border last fall. No doubt many of these weak Soma's have found there way to online pharmacies. The best way I know to advoid the counterfeit Somas is to advoid the name brand altogether.
Indeed, I remember questioning the potency of name brand Soma pills about a year ago. Some were advising people to opt for generic Soma... Only over the last few months have we got the evidence as to just why many name brand Somas seemed so weak- likely they were counterfeit or very expired meds.
One site that seems to have the REAL (and not expired) name brand Soma is:
http://deliveredsoma.com/
(Tested and approved)
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zepfan
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i jeard soma w/hydro causes a "heroinlike" high
anyone find that true?
i dont it just helps with my severe scoliosis pain problem
any replies would be great
also hears it called "soma coma" or the "las vegas dance"????
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narcogurl
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Soma's give me a very mellow, "feel good" effect..i know they're not non-narcotic...but why do they make people feel so good..i've heard this from others..my aunt would take them and said she liked how they made her feel...anyone have any answer?
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axe
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i jeard soma w/hydro causes a "heroinlike" high
anyone find that true?
i dont it just helps with my severe scoliosis pain problem
any replies would be great
also hears it called "soma coma" or the "las vegas dance"????
ty
zepfan
I have never used heroin so I can't make that comparison. I can tell you that I have built a tolerance to hydro this past week. I took 3 yesterday with minimal relief. About an hour ago I took 3 hydro with 2 Soma and it was definately intense. No pain at all and I felt like I was high. 2 or 3 hydro with 1 Soma would probably be better since I am looking for just pain relief and not a high. Be careful if combining these drugs.
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I tried Soma to help sleep when hip & knees acting up. i also took ibuprohen. Slept fine, but felt naseous (can't spell & can't figure out how to use spell checker without completely losing my post) next day.
is soma known to cause upset stomach? There is a stomach flu going around here as well.
And no "high" or anything "fun" for me, just went to sleep.
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DigitFreedom
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2 or 3 hydro with 1 Soma would probably be better since I am looking for just pain relief and not a high. Be careful if combining these drugs.
Yes, this combination proved to be extremely sedating for me. Best to stay in BED.
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I use Fiorinal with Hydro's..but don't leave home without ........ a designated driver.
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2 or 3 hydro with 1 Soma would probably be better since I am looking for just pain relief and not a high. Be careful if combining these drugs.
I'm not sure what strength hydro you are using, I take 10/325 and I find that 1-2 and 1 Soma work very well for me to get through the whole night without repeat doses of hydro. Everyones bodies are different though of what strength and dosage they need. However I agree very strongly with the other posters, this is not something you should all day long. It does make you very "loose" and you should be somewhere you can lay down if need be.
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For anyone looking for soma, I think mastersmarketing has it in the original bottles - 100ct. for $30.00, with good turnaround time. It's an IOP.
I heard the "heroin high" story from a pharmacist once. The combination just knocked me out, though.
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I have used Masters many times and it comes packed A+ quality, the soma is named brand British Carisoma and the 3 month 300 count with shipping is only 105.00 and I usually get them within 8 days at the latest and 4 days at the fastest.
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okdoki
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I read an article about soma abuse somewhere once. It made the drug sound like a class one street drug it said combined with opiates, it gives a heroin type high. For I do not take vicodin, I can not afford OPS. But I get T-3s from my doc [not many] one time I got Soma compound with I think it had apa and codine. I took 3 once in a bad moment and they were much more effective than T-3s, and really put me out there. I asked my doc about them and he said they do not make them any more. But he does give me 20 soma and 30 T-3s every three months. Personally I have gone weeks without them and do not seem to want them other than when I am in pain.
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JoannefromPa
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My boyfriend's job keeps him on his feet the whole 6-8 hour shift and he climbs steps often also while performing his work. On certain days he has severe pain in his shins, calfs and upper legs. Well just my two cents, but he swears that 1- Tylenol "3" with 1- 350mg Soma is the best ever for leg pain after trying many different pain meds from Percocet on.... Just wanted to share and was curious if anyone has also tried that combo for leg pain?
Thanks, Joanne
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axe
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2 or 3 hydro with 1 Soma would probably be better since I am looking for just pain relief and not a high. Be careful if combining these drugs.
I'm not sure what strength hydro you are using, I take 10/325 and I find that 1-2 and 1 Soma work very well for me to get through the whole night without repeat doses of hydro. Everyones bodies are different though of what strength and dosage they need. However I agree very strongly with the other posters, this is not something you should all day long. It does make you very "loose" and you should be somewhere you can lay down if need be.
I also am taking the 10/325's. After a build up of tolerance I need 2 to 3 hydro's for pain relief. Like I said, if I take 2 Soma's with 2 or 3 hydro's it is too much. I will be at the computer and start to nod off. I actually hit my mouth on the desk a couple of times from nodding off so I agree that you should be somewhere that you can lay down.
I'm not a doctor so I may word this wrong, but I read somewhere that Soma is converted(not sure if this is the correct terminology) into Miltown or Mepropromate??? not sure of sspelling, which is why people feel sedated. Maybe someone like the member tone can ellaborate?
Once again be very careful if you combine these drugs. If anyone here follows wrestling they will remember Miss Elizabeth, who overdosed and died after mixing soma, hydro and some alcohol.
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neonsign2003
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Is soma a controlled substance and/or can you order it
International or from US sources. Who is best in your opinion? THANKS!
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It is controlled in some states, and not others. What state are you in?
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