labmonkey
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Reged: 07/07/03
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It's far from the miracle drug its touted as...why else would the feds allow it for narcotic addiction treatment, out of the goodness of their hearts? Before its use as a treatment for addiction, bupe was classified as schedule V! I get migraines, but have never had them at the frequency I have since going on bupe and they are usually induced by allergens, never drugs, until this one. Bupe is made from a different alkaloid(thebaine)of the poppy than the more common opiates/opioids. It stimulates the mu recptor, but not nearly as much as morphine, codeine, etc. But it dissociates more slowly, comparatively, making it a good candidate for preventing withdrawl without much euphoria(though as someone mentioned) it is a pretty good painkiller, apperantly not for headaches though!
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Leroy47
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Hope,
Sorry to be so late with an answer , but I asked my PCP for Sub. and he wrote me a prescription for 30 8mg. 1 every 4-6 hours as needed, w/3 refills. It was approx. $210 per and my ins. would not pay. I noticed no w/d going from 6-7 10/500 lortabs per day, however I did not taper from the sub. like a dumb***!!!
The 3rd day after I ran out of the sub. I was climbing the walls!!! I was too embarrassed to call my doc.(2nd time) so I ended up back @ square one.
It is a miracle drug in my opinion, if directions are followed.
Feel free to PM me.
Ken
Ken
Edited by Leroy47 (08/27/04 02:14 PM)
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hope46
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NO PROBLEM! I HAD TO STOP IT COLD TURKEY (NOT BY CHOICE). The first 3-4 days I couldnt tell I'd stopped...it stays it your system a LONG time! Then on the 4-5th day I started feeling w/d's. Nothing like hydrocodone...but still no picnic..Thank goodness my doctor refilled my meds that day..I have no idea how much worse it would have gotten or how long it lasts. I think a slow taper is the way to go...just my 2 cents!-Hope 
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hope46
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sorry i forgot to ask...is your pcp on the government list??? I'm assuming yes but feel free to pm me...lot of pcp's use a form of this medicine to treat pain-not addiction.--hope
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Simp
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Here is a link to some real life Bup stories. These experiences range from hard core to mild usage but they tell it like it is.
http://64.226.201.78/Forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=4
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Leroy47
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Hope,
No he was not on the list. I told him my story, he asked me if I got them from his office,and I assured him I did not. He asked me if I wanted to do outpatient, I said yes, and he wrote me a script.I don't think he ever prescribed them before. I read somewhere that any doctor can take an 8 hour course, but I have no idea if that is the case.
Good Luck to all,
Ken
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ReOkie
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Loc: Oklahoma
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Maybe we are all very different but I too got the 8mg suboxone and was able to break it apart and make several pills last for weeks. The tems we get from IOP's is just .2mg so the 8mg should last a lot longer than 3 days.
ReOkie
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Trampy
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Quote:
Hope, No he was not on the list. I told him my story, he asked me if I got them from his office,and I assured him I did not. He asked me if I wanted to do outpatient, I said yes, and he wrote me a script.I don't think he ever prescribed them before. I read somewhere that any doctor can take an 8 hour course, but I have no idea if that is the case. Good Luck to all, Ken
If he was not on the SAMSHA list then maybe he didn't take the one-day course. I think that doctors who have the special DEA # for outpatient detox/maintenance with Bupe don't have to be listed if they don't want to. Doctors with regular DEA #s can use Subutex and Suboxone off-label for pain, depression, whatever they deem fit. They take a risk, though, when they prescribe anything off-label. In addition to the controlled substance concerns, they need to worry about malpractice. When a doctor prescribes according to the label, it's hard to sue them over the outcome. Not so for off-label prescriptions.
If your doctor prescribed it for opiate dependence without that special DEA # and without being board certified in addiction, he was taking a big risk.
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hope46
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Reged: 11/08/03
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TRAMPY,
I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT....PCP'S PRESCRIBE SOME FORM OF THIS MEDICATION FOR PAIN..I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS...BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IN ORDER TO PRESCRIBE SUBOXONE, THEY HAD TO TAKE THAT 8 HOUR COURSE AND GET A SPECIAL # FROM THE DEA....IS THAT CORRECT? I KNOW MY DOCTOR IN NY TOLD ME HE COULD NOT REPLACE MY SUBOXONE IF I LOST THE BOTTLE, OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT...(WHICH IT DID) ... HE TOLD ME IT WAS EASIER FOR HIM TO REPLACE A RX FOR A SCHEDULE 2 LIKE OXY THAN TO REPLACE A RX FOR SUBOXONE!!!! HE SAID THE DEA WAS MONITORING THIS DRUG SO CLOSELY THAT HE WAS CONCERNED THEY WOULD PULL HIS (RE WAS REFERRING TO ANYONE WHO PRESCRIBES IT) LICENSE IN A HEARTBEAT IF THEY THOUGHT HE WASN'T FOLLOWING THEIR GUIDELINES TO A "T"! HE SAID THEY WERE BEING RIDICULOUS OVERSEEING IT...AND.. HE SAID IT WAS A SCHEDULE 4 UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO--I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THIS!--GOVERNMENT B.S., I SUPPOSE-HOPE
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zippypinhead
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Reged: 02/26/03
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Loc: West Coast
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Buph has horrible withdrawalls... deperssion, exhaustion being the top two. It's different than the other narcs, not as 'severe' but lasts longer... Read some addiction forums, people who use buph... it's pretty heavy.
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lfi
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Horrible withdrawals? Nope, nope and, uh nope.
For some time I was a pretty regular heroin user. About 200mg a night. Now many of you I read about taking 1 full suboxone for being on a few hydros a day! That would be comfortable. Finding it on the street was very difficult, but when I did, I would need 2 for three days and then be done with wd's. heroin w/d's are absolutely agonizing, and the suboxone make it a lot less so. After the third day I didn't feel great (but having fibromyalgia makes feeling great almost synonamous with being on painkillers) but I was done with withdrawals. So, I can see buprenorphine as perhaps having withdrawls, however if you use it very short term and drink a shitload of water to get your opiods out of your body than I think you'll be okay (I really don't see the need for it for a long period of time - I've quit heroin cold turkey so know what the hell is like without it). Also, taking 5-HTP and Vitamin B-100 (mainly B-12) will help w/d's very much as well!
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nikkicat
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Reged: 11/30/04
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I have a question regarding the difference between Temgesic and Buprenorphine. What is the difference? If I am correct the Bup. has something added to prevent injection. I can only find Temgesic and not the Buprenorphine available from the Mexrxonline for $60 for 10 tabs. Does anyone know what strength they are and if it is possible to use the Temgesic for an opiate holiday? Also, is there a records OP that offers it? I know that is a long shot!I need to lower the amount of hydrocodone I take a day and my husband's insurance will not be available to me until Feb. I can't wait because I plan to go to a pain management doctor who can percribe the Buprenorphine for me to take a holiday and lower my tolerance to hydro and I will be able to find the root to my pain!
Thanks for any help yoy may be able to give!
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