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Dark5tar
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Re: international hydro [Re: MetsFan]
      #197375 - 10/31/04 02:00 PM

Yea those international 2mg hydros do suck. I got really sick off them so im not gonna touch em.

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Norman97
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Re: international hydro [Re: MetsFan]
      #199276 - 11/10/04 02:13 AM

*Bump*

If anyone knows of any hydro OR morphine or failing that even bupe /dhc sources, be they website or email, that deliver outside the US that they'd be willing to share, a friendly PM would be fantastic. I do have a legit reason (arthritis), but my doctor doesn't seem to understand the pain I'm in.
Cheers.


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Re: international hydro [Re: dsmmcm]
      #200630 - 11/16/04 08:05 AM

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If you want to offer spelling tips on DB, you will quickly have 10000 posts and everybody will hate you.




Just want to add that not only do I agree, I do so speaking from a recent personal experience that went pretty much as described!

One I would very much like to forget, I might add!


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nycalt



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Re: international hydro [Re: Dark5tar]
      #200639 - 11/16/04 08:52 AM

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Yea those international 2mg hydros do suck. I got really sick off them so im not gonna touch em.




If possible, I would like to reopen the discussion on these 2mg hydro's for a few posts if you don't mind.

With the current nightmare in the U.S. Hydro NROP industry, I was recommended these (from the same source described above) as a possible alternative in a PM by a DB member who thought they worked just fine.

Now, all I have read here is negative stuff about them. Certainly, with my sinus issues, a lot of some type of probably Benadryl like antihistimine is not going to work for me so if that is indeed in them, I can strike this option very quick. But the member said it was pure hydro and has taken enough (enough to get a normal U.S. dose like 5 - 10 at one time).

So, is the member who PM'ed me incorrect/doesn't know any better that this is NOT pure hydro?

And, related, is there any one else out there who is willing to post/PM me a postive experience with the 2 mg tabs?

Also, if anyone has any information or links to where I can find information about what is actually in them (like someone posted they were prescibed for children, contained a lot antihistimine, etc.; he/she must have read this somewhere....), that would be greatly appreciated.

Any personal experience using these for pain and how they differed in pain relief and side affects vs. normal hydro's, PM of course if you like, would also be of great interest.

Thanks in advance for any info as I couldn't find much on these things out there in internet search land.


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cleo911
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Re: international hydro [Re: nycalt]
      #201429 - 11/18/04 03:36 PM

Whoever said they are pure is quite mistaken. I read feedback from at least 20 people who said otherwise. Someone also found out what else was in them, and I think it was diphenydramine. Unfortunately, said message board where I heard this is now defunct.

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harley88
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Re: international hydro [Re: cleo911]
      #201546 - 11/19/04 01:57 AM

I do not have any personal experience with the 2 mg hydrocodone discussed here .This is a link to the only source I know in china that has them http://www.anycities.com/user1/laukee/ .They have a description of the ingredients of them about halfway down the page on the website and there are no antihistamines in them according to the website.
Most people that post about them do not have any personal experience with them only what they have read in other peoples posts .Just my $.02


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bmurphr1
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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #201570 - 11/19/04 06:25 AM

Jesus, 200mg of caffiene per 2mg of hydro? If you took 10mg of hydro, you also take an entire gram of caffiene...not good. I'd rather take a Norco and drink 2-3 potfulls of coffee to achieve that affect.

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harley88
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Re: international hydro [Re: bmurphr1]
      #201610 - 11/19/04 09:21 AM

I think you misread that .It does not say how much caffeine is in them .He just stated that there was caffiene and saccharine in them as filler and no tylenol.He does not say how much of either are in them.I am just guessing but they proably have more saccharine .

I ordered some 30mg DHC tablets not long ago that were as big as 325mg aspirin but supposedly only had DHC in them .
If those 2mg hydro had very much caffiene I know I probably could not take them either .Especially if I was trying to take enough to equal a 10 mg norco .Besides that he has minimum order for $300 .The smallest amount a person could order would be 700 for $200 and to meet the minimum order if a person did not order some of his other items .They would have to order 1500 for $300 which would be hard to do for most people not knowing that much about them .I don,t think I want to buy that many pills of anykind from overseas and take a chance of them getting seized even if they were legit.
IP is supposed to be a reputable AAS source .The hydro is the only pain med he offers ,99% of everything else he offers are AAS products or something connected with taking them.

harley88


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MetsFan
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Re: international hydro [Re: bmurphr1]
      #201653 - 11/19/04 11:46 AM

Jesus, 200mg of caffiene per 2mg of hydro?

Why. I must be missing something. Cough syrup. It does not make sense to me.


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cleo911
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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #201866 - 11/20/04 07:54 AM

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I do not have any personal experience with the 2 mg hydrocodone discussed here .This is a link to the only source I know in china that has them http://www.anycities.com/user1/laukee/ .They have a description of the ingredients of them about halfway down the page on the website and there are no antihistamines in them according to the website.



This is indeed the email source in question. It didn't used to say that about the hydro. And the pricing structure has changed. He either has a new source

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harley88
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Re: international hydro [Re: cleo911]
      #202125 - 11/21/04 12:41 PM

cleo911 are trying to get me banned for talking about email sources .This is a clearly a website source.It may not be a very fancy website but all the ifoermation for ordeing is there and the website is updated daily.
Do not accuse me of talking about a email source .I may or may not know a email source for this also but I did not discuss it and will not .I let my VIP membership expire recently .I will have to wait until I renew my VIP membership to talk about those type of sources on the VIP side.
Yes he did not used to talk about the ingredients but like you said you have never took them .So why are spreading information about something you do not have first hand experince with and only hearsay info about it .
I belong to a very large anabolic board where IP has a banner at the top of the page and one of the main paid advertisrs there .This would be equivlant of you calling YOD or NWW liers and scammers here .

Back up those accusations before you start calling some one a lier .
IP manufactures most of their steriods thierselves with distributer in other parts of the world for their products.Most people are saitisfied with them .I have other sources for steriods that have smaller miniumum orders and are cheaper so I do not use them now .
If you can back up your claims I will apoligize ,but do not try to get me banned for something that you do not have any experince with or very little knowledge about .

harley88


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Opie_Yates
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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #202136 - 11/21/04 01:38 PM

Looks like they want to help you rip your heart up by offering Fen.

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rockystuart
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Re: international hydro [Re: Opie_Yates]
      #202155 - 11/21/04 02:11 PM

I just have to add that , although I have heard good things about the hydro content of teh 2MG pills. Dealing with 200mg of caffine (3 cups of strong coffee) per pill would require some processing. But I dont like to process tablets before I take them.

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cleo911
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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #202384 - 11/22/04 02:47 PM

I have no clue as to what you're talking about, pal I've never made a cliam or accusation.

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harley88
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Re: international hydro [Re: cleo911]
      #202644 - 11/23/04 01:14 PM

cleo911,just forget it .Sometimes I am extra sensitive .


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MetsFan
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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #202650 - 11/23/04 01:24 PM

I am totally confused. I was told that hydrocodone (of any type) was not sold (actually manufactured) outside of the USA. This 2MG, caffiene stuff is just so wierd.

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harley88
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Re: international hydro [Re: MetsFan]
      #202656 - 11/23/04 01:57 PM

I got a prescription for 2.5/500 lortab once and was not very impressed with them .I think they were made by watson and had 388 on one side and watson on the other side .
I have did a search on hydrocodone before that gave some information about it in other countries but I can not remember were I found the information .It may have just gave information were hydrocodone is distributed in other countries instead of were it is manufactured at .I do not remember how I did the search now.Wish I could remember how I did the search.


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Re: international hydro [Re: harley88]
      #202917 - 11/24/04 02:53 PM

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cleo911,just forget it .Sometimes I am extra sensitive .


harley88



Sorry if I came across as harsh I was just posting what I've heard reported by others. I have no firsthand experience with IP. It is quite possible he got them to make the tabs without any antihistamine, due to complaints. And the only reason I tried to make it seem like a straight email source is because I was trying to discourage people from useing him, due to reported seizure problems of late.
Take care and happy holliday


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Re: international hydro [Re: cleo911]
      #207054 - 12/11/04 03:16 PM

...lurker making first post,,,,,



GOOD-DAY,NIGHT,MORNING etc etc GUYS when/wherever it is you are,


(sp for whole post)This is probably all done and dusted and known about but without a possibly lengthy and fruitless tho recent search can't be sure,This is a very interesting subject for me and i did some net diggin earlier this year after Cleos post bout added anti-histamines caught my eye - anyways to the point;


Could no longer see ingreds list on that site BUT DID it MENTION ***ATROPINE*** a BELLADONA/DEADLY NIGHTSHADE alkaloid IF memory serves. Sure first saw it mentioned in a think now pulled HUGE G thread.Tho it could have been related scopalmine mentioned which would relate to pre-med role inferences. Tho can't remember all details from my 'research' @thereaupeutic HC levels ,amount of alkaloid consumed seemed well dodgy given rec dose ranges.Could find no way to feasibly reduce harm.It was only recently that i came upon this exact subject elswhere in discussion about this chinese site(i realize now they were likely looking @ ingredients list like you above..but i can't recall the date of that other s*tes post) which imo seems most likely esp knowing CHINAs progressive logic + morally based tolerant policy on drugs (eg opioid abuse = wrists and/or neck severed (..naturally if both, wrists first..er..)... PROBABLY)...the atropine is added for the purpose of anti-abuse (wrt their 2mg size ).


Have no info if all 2mg same but another 2mg source that springs to mind is apparently s'how 'linked' to this china site????,he is still bulk buy but dif price structure.As said imo w/o specific FEASIBLE info its even more of a minefield than usual from buying to consumption if their is pure/non-pure HC

*excuse patronising to follow*
"Like i said i've forgotten atropine OD,FX etc details,obviously hope nycalt PMer ok if it wasn't pure + IF did contain Atropine i may(eg is it a slow silent danger like those VERY safe drugs we can use recreationally by "law"('alternatively known as' LMBFAO attempt @ morality),cyanide fast(?) mixture?) have misjudged danger etc Only my views on possibilty not deffo air raid siren....fin"




PS Apologies to cleo + borg for any rudeness displayed by my lack of reply or gratitude shown from the receipt of any PM. EXCUSE(=ridiculous + unbelievable YES but so was/(is?) the depression driven BUT COMPLETELY(unless class anx) UNEXPRESSED GAD with .err..'special patient'..groan...anxiety levels (BUT after reading of peoples jaw-dropping levels of suffering and surviving feats displaying the awesome will power/capacity that some humans have under such adversity, aroundabouts it seems anything but remarkable)

My alledged remission(mostly brill really) induces mini relapses which appear to be caused by certain (apparently stressful to my brain at the mo) run 0f the mill activities PRIME one = WTF i'm doing now!! no matter how useful and (pc euphenism ahoy)'attractive' it can be needs to be curtailed in short term at least. As you can see by the way i've got 'carried away'+ rambling on .. on this post i've failing badly at this and keep reeping the 'rewards'.I start off with the intention of limmitting then snowball.Yes so i won't be making any sense here - i'm (sorry Politically Correct'ers)naturally mad!

Certainly you might not expect signif memory of such PM it was done just in case + as a courtesy (hopefully).i still fully intead to read any PM that you sent and reply accordingdly wrt that future date when the term stabilty
appears in my limbic system/amygdala (or whatever the current scientific hypoth currently) enough to stop banging myself over the head in a dangerous to real relapse,negative FB loop,to not get carried away at every net surf and/or this having limmited FX on my stability.

*switches off pc....NOT!*


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