salstar
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I'm new to this forum and am so so so pleased that I've found it... What a gem! I'd like to say a big 'HELLO' to everyone and also ask for some advice. I've been looking for pain meds to control a condition that I've been suffering with since the age of 12! Over the counter products including Codeine which is available in vast quantaties OTC here (I live in England) don't work for me. I'm so frustrated and need some advice. I have been told that any Oxy/Vic/Perc products are virtually impossible to get shipped to England but that Temgesic (Buphrenorphine) is a good alternative. I've just ordered a small amount from Interpharm & wondered if anyone else has had any positive results from it? Also I have been led to believe that Demerol is easy to obtain over the net. Is this true? Are reliable pharmacies shipping this or any other similar meds to the U.K? If so, where are they? Who are they? Everytime I click on a link that 'promises' to ship this or similar products I am taken to a site that does everything but. I am at my wits end!!! Any suggestions?
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keystone
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Demerol....?! Argh. I just spilled my coffee. No suck luck. 
I am sure you'll get some good replies on who ships to England.
KS
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tb1218
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You didnt mention what condition you suffer from as different meds besides hydo/oxy/demerol may help. Perhaps that is too personal but in the medical conditions forums if you scroll thru it for a while maybe you will find help and advice on what would work best. I too have never heard of demerol online, I only had it once injected while I was in labor and it made me vomit and see double. BTW, welcome and search around, there are very many knowledgable members who may be able to steer you in the right direction. Good luck.
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salstar
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I had no idea Demerol was such a controversial med. I take it from your response that it is. Why are so many Pharmacies saying that they can ship it then? Maybe I am a little naive, they are also promising the usual oxy products (all types) and... (try not to pee yourself) Fentanyl & Fent based products! HA!!! BTW: How do u add icons to msg's? I've tried but have failed miserably :C
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salstar
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My condition is a little personal and embarassing, but lets just say extreme burning for prolonged periods of time in an intimate area. I am seeing specialists who are working hard to help me with this condition that is 'complicated and very hard to treat'. Meanwhile I have to go to extremes to try to keep the pain under control and believe me, I've tried every orthodox method. I am 29 now so this has been going on for 17yrs and I am tired and just want some relief. I have to wait for the specialists to try & find a treatment that works for me but so far I have had no positive response. BTW thanks for the welcome! 
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tortie2
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salstar -
Demerol is usually very difficult to obtain from your own personal physician because many physicians have this notion (mistaken in my opinion) that Demerol is much more addicting than other pain medications like Hydrocodone. They (the drs.) think that people get more euphoria from Demerol and if you ask for it for pain, most drs. look at you with raised eyebrows! I think it is a widely-disseminated myth that Demerol is better than other pain meds. I have had to have quite a bit of Demerol in post-op situations (the one situation in which drs. will more often prescribe it) and have received injections as well as pills to take home after surgery. I think Roxycodone is a better pain reliever with fewer side effects. One benefit of Demerol for some folks (e.g., my mother) is that it doesn't seem to cause as much nausea. Codeine, hydrocodone, and morphine all make my Mom violently nauseated with vomiting. (But some people get nauseated from Demerol, too, so I think it is really an individual thing.)
Oh, I just remembered something else: My orthopedic surgeon told me that he doesn't like to prescribe Demerol because he thinks people develop a tolerance more quickly plus there is a build-up in the bloodstream of a metabolite of Demerol which is quite unpleasant.
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beebops
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I was looking for shipments, in or to the U.S. and got nothing. So if any one know anything feel free to inform all of us.
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salstar
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tortie2:
Thanks for your reply! It explains why Demerol is seemingly so hard to get. You mentioned that Roxycodone was beneficial to you in pain management, where I could get hold of this? I know that different people get different results so it doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for me, but at the moment I am willing to try anything.
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yawkaw3
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In America, Demerol and oxycodone are Schedule II's. I imagine it is the same in Britain with different nomenclature. I dunno if you know this: a drug is scheduled according to its abuse potential- CI has no medical use (LSD, ecstasy, heroin- even though I know in Britain heroin is a prescription drug), CII is like oxycodone/morphine/amphetamines, CIII is hydro/codeine/steroids, CIV has benzos, and CV is in some states a scheduling that allows you to sign for it without a prescription (small amounts of codeine cough syrup, for example).
CII's cannot have refills and can't be ordered online, that's not true of CIII and CIV- so while you can buy hydro and codeine online, a place selling CII's has to operate outside the law (email sources and some IOP's).
-yawkaw
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salstar
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yawkaw:
email sources and IOP's? What does this mean?
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tortie2
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salstar -
AN IOP refers to an "International Online Pharmacy" and an "e-mail source" is, I gather, a source which does not have an internet web site - rather, you have to send an e-mail message to them inquiring about their products and the procedure for ordering them.
Two IOP sources which list oxycodone ("Roxycodone" is just a brand name for oxycodone without any other added components) are: mexrxonline.com and norxsupplier.com. I have not ordered anything so I can't give you a personal testimonial but there are numerous thread postings on both of these.
I hope this helps..
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yawkaw3
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tortie explained IOP's, and an email source is essentially a drug dealer with an email address. Not even being sarcastic- that's all it is. I have been saying for a while they shouldn't be discussed on DB. The vast majority of them are scams, lots of members have lost a lot of money to them. And aside from that, it's 100% illegal.
A domestic OP would not ship to England, unless you had some kind of remailing service and even then I don't know how British customs would take to it, if it would even reach you at all, or it ends up being an expensive seizure letter. So your only option really is an IOP. Don't bother with a risky email source. Look for an IOP that offers what you want or as close to it as possible, read the feedback, and then decide if the benefits outweight the risks.
-yawkaw
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salstar
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tortie2
Thanks for the explanations. Triple thanks for the website referals, I know that you haven't personally ordered from them so I will just take my chances. I will check the threads out that you mentioned first beforehand, I'm just getting to know my way around this huge site so I'm sure that I'll get the hang of all of the terminology soon. I really appreciate your help, thanks again
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salstar
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yawkyaw
Your reply made me LOL (even if it wasn't intended to). If it's risky to go down the email route like you say, then I think I'll skip that one. I already order IOP and so far have had no problems with seizures etc. The only problem was finding particular meds. tortie has helped me out there, so I will be sure to take your advice and check on the feedback of these sources before ordering. Thank you for the warnings & advice.
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muphoric
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In my opinion, there are better options than demerol. Dem. seems to be short acting, and dosn't take care of the pain as well as other oral drugs (Hydro, oxy, even larger doses of codeine). If you have poor kidney function, demerol's metabolites will build up in your system and cause seizures. Demerol was actually developed with the intent of having a lower potential of abuse (less euphoria) than morphine. It seems all they have developed is a crappy analgesic. In my experience demerol is most often given for post-operative pain, usually orthopedic surgeries. The usual dose is 75-100mg IM, and is usually mixed with 25-50mg of vistaril (hydroxyzine). If given IV, the usual dose for pain is anywhere 12.5 -50mg, with the average dose being 25mg. But keep in mind that this will be very short acting (about an hour of analgesia). If you live in the UK, I would look for dihydroCODEINE. I'm sure you have probably tried this, but I think you'll have better luck with an oral agent like this than Demerol. BTW, Demerol is a CII drug in the USA, and I havn't seen it anywhere online. If you need some stronger oral agents, PM me for sources that I think will ship to you.
Good Luck!
Muphoric
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nycalt
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Excellent post. Great information.
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emp
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Hi,
could you tell me please where to get dihydrocodein cheap?
thanks
emp
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Tiff151
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HI I just order from giga pharm payed 40. for 30 I think....it took a couple of weeks to get here it got siezed first but they resent right away!
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salstar
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muphoric:
Thanks for such an in-depth response. You sound like you know what you're talking about when it comes to pain meds. Even though I have never tried Demerol, I agree with you that making a pain-med with the intent of having a lower potential of abuse just produces a 'crappy analgesic'. I know this because 2 days ago I received a pain-med called Temgesic (buprenorphine) which boasts of it's limited euphoric effects, therefore suggesting that it is less addictive but just as effective in controlling pain. Well; I just spent the whole night puking for 8hrs (I'm not kidding) my pain was so bad that I decided to take the drug, it did nothing so I took some more which made me throw up all night... it was like something out of The Exorcist. On a happy note though: I ordered them from 'Interpharm' (for the first time) and they arrived in 3 days!!! Packaging v. discreet & although I won't personally be ordering that particular med again the service of 'interpharm' was great & the product was authentic. Thanks muphoric! I will be definately be sending you a PM shortly
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emp
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Thanks for the info, but i don´t want to pay 45$ for shipping!
Is this the only source for dihydrocodeine?
greetings,
emp
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TTFREE
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Reged: 11/29/04
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Loc: MD USA
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interpharm wont let you on the site how do you connect ????
Thanks
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salstar
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just click on this link: www.interpharm.cc
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