arecondo
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Does anyone know if these two sources are reliable?
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=912
http://nubrain.zoovy.com/product/PIRA
I am skeptic to place an order with them, is that real powder, are they real pills?
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Anxiolitic
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I don't know about Nubrain but Bulk Nutrition is one the best web stores out there. You always get your order within 5 days domestically. Also, you WILL NOT find it cheaper(the piracetam) anywhere else on the net or real life unless you order it buy the barrels from China. The only downside is that it's sold as a bulk powder so you'll need to get some 00 capsules from somewhere. Good luck!
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cleo911
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If you don't want to deal with the powder, nu-brain is definitely legit. I still have some piracetam that I ordered from them about a year ago.
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arecondo
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I have never taken supplements or meds in powder form, before. What's the scoop with it?
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Anxiolitic
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I forgot to say that you get 750 grams for $19.99 and if you calculate the costs of every other place, you'll see that Bulk Nutrition is up to 20 times cheaper(and over 2X cheaper than the closest competition) and they have the lots chemical analysis sheet available on site. I ordered late in the morning on Friday and recieved it Monday afternoon. If you look at the shipping options(when you checkout) it costs $4.95 for 2-3 day shipping(USPS Priority Mail) with delivery confirmation(best and cheapest option). Also, if you purchase the bulk powder DO NOT freeze it or you'll be sorry! The only thing is... is that if you're looking for other nootropics you won't be able to find them here since they specialize in weight lifting supplements and the like. So if you need multiple nootropic medicines then maybe Nubrain is the better option for you.
To answer arecondo's question, it isn't hard at all. You can buy a nice digital scale for $30 after shipping or you can get a laboratory pen shaped scale that measures in 1/10 gram increments from:
http://www.americanweigh.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=A&Product_Code=AMWPEN
and measure out 500 mg's for each large capsule. Take 2 of those in the morning and 2 in the mid-afternoon for a total of 2 grams a day. Doses of up to 60 grams have been taken safely(one time only, these doses are EXTREME!!) by people participating in research studies of which volunteers who exhibited ataxia experienced a lessoning of their symptoms. I recommend that you don't take anymore than 3-4 grams a day. In order to make this work you need to take it for the long term because it causes positive structural changes in the brain, namely an increase in cholinergic receptors which facilitate recall/memory and alertness. After the initial loading dose(2 times your regular dose) you probably won't feel anything from it, but after about 3-4 weeks up to 85% of the people taking it perform better on apptitude tests. Now in real life this may come in the form of easily remembering phone numbers, quicker reaction times on the road, being able to recall more from a book or newspaper than you used to, etc...
You might be wondering how do you get the large capsules. There are cheap places on the internet for capsules and capsule filling machines which make filling them easy and fast but you don't have to mess with all of that. Many people just go to their store and buy 90 capsules of say kava kava root or some other common herbal suppliment and empty them out and load them instead with the piracetam powder. Most of the large capsules hold 500-800 milligrams. Hopefully this helps!
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owmyback
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Just rec'd #60 800mg. Piracetam. $16.95 + $6.00 USPS PRIORITY MAIL. Rec'd in 2 days. www.smart-nutrition.net.
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daisyhess
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I truly enjoyed this, I hope you will to...
Peace, Daisy
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/GlastonburyArchive/drugwars/ke-01.html
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arecondo
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Thanks anxio for the explanation. I was actually thinking to give it a try to this piracetam thing, what might be like, but as I see not many people here are enthusiastic about it, I don't know if it's worth ordering it!
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caramello51
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i have been taking piracetam for approximately 15 years, and i can proudly say that i DO remember my phone number when somebody asks me for it. i buy the pills at IAS. 
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arecondo
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lol caramello!
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flavine
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Piracetam is reported to be an intelligence booster and CNS stimulant with no known toxicity or addictive properties.
The subjective effect described by some people is that piracetam, "wakes up your brain." Its effects and safety are so impressive that piracetam prompted the creation of a new pharmaceutical category called nootropics. Since the invention of piracetam by UCB Laboratories in Belgium, other pharmaceutical companies have been scrambling to develop their own nootropics. Others include: vinpocetine, aniracetam, pramiracetam, and oxiracetam. As yet, there is no nootropic compound that FDA approves for sale in the US, but there is plenty of motivation on the part of pharmaceutical companies to get that approval.
Piracetam is very similar in molecular structure to the amino acid pyroglutamate (see Pyroglutamate). Piracetam and pyroglutamate have the same "base" chemical structure, the 2-oxo-pyrrolidine, but they differ by the side chain. Pyroglutamate is 2-oxo-pyrrolidine carboxylic acid, and piracetam is 2-oxo-pyrrolidine acetamide. Piracetam enhances cognition under conditions of hypoxia (too little oxygen), and also enhances memory and some kinds of learning in normal humans. Outside of the US, piracetam is used to treat alcoholism, stroke, vertigo, senile dementia, sickle cell anemia, dyslexia, and numerous other health problems. The effect of piracetam can be increased if taken with DMAE, centrophenoxine, choline, or Hydergine. When choline and piracetam are taken together there is a synergistic effect that causes a greater improvement in memory than the sum of each when taken alone. It may be that piracetam causes acetylcholine to be used up more quickly and that the choline helps to replace this important neurotransmitter. Studies suggest that piracetam might increase the number of cholinergic receptors in the brain. Older mice were given piracetam for two
weeks and then the density of muscarinic cholinergic receptors in their frontal cortexes was measured. The researchers found that these older mice had 30-40% higher density of these receptors than before. Piracetam, unlike many other drugs, appears to have a regenerative effect on
the nervous system. Combination of Hydergine and Piracetam potentiate each other by 5 times. This highlights the importance of adjusting the dosage when multiple substances are taken because, some of these substances will cause paradoxical effects when excessive amounts are taken. Although piracetam is a derivative of GABA (gamma amino butyric acid, a neurotransmitter), there is no evidence that piracetam works through the GABA-ergic system. Some research even suggests GABA may even inhibit memory
and learning.
Piracetam is supplied in 400mg or 800mg capsules or tablets. The usual dose is 2400 to 4800 mg per day in three divided doses. Some literature recommends that the first two days a high "attack" dose should be taken. Often when people first take piracetam they do not notice any effect at all until they take a high dose (approximately 4000 to 8000mg). Thereafter, they may notice that a lower dosage is sufficient. Piracetam takes effect within 30 to 60 minutes.
Go to http://www.inhome-health.com to purchase it.
InHome Health Services
box 3112
CH-2800 Delemont
Switzerland
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nightrider
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Nubrain is very reliable. Also try: www.antiaging-center.com
also good.
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chgrn
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I ordered Piracetam from Nubrain. Excellent tablets, now I am looking for some Hydergine.
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Ellecram
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Is this a product that you have to sign for delivery???
I am looking for something to help with cognition/energy deficits and this seems to be something to try.
Can you get it in any stores?
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inndut
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I wouldn't get that excited about smth that may or may not be effective after 3-4 weeks ...
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silk
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Quote:
Does anyone know if these two sources are reliable?
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=912
http://nubrain.zoovy.com/product/PIRA
I am skeptic to place an order with them, is that real powder, are they real pills?
Does anyone know how to go about getting a sample analyzed? I ordered some piracetam and it came in bulk form (the original source was China), but how do I know it really is what it is supposed to be?
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