candice
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When Tom Cruise uttered those famous words in the Hollywood blockbuster, 'Top Gun': "I feel a need, a need for speed", he would not have known that his words had already been taken literally by the U.S. Air Force, in a way he could never have imagined. In the latest Jamie Doran documentary, 'the need for speed' exposes how the Pentagon has been issuing a concoction of mind-altering drugs to its soldiers and airmen, resulting in the deaths of allied forces, innocent civilians and, almost certainly, their own men.
Amphetamines, sedatives, anti-nerve agents, adrenaline and a whole variety of vaccines, including anthrax, make up a cocktail of chemicals banned by civilian authorities in the ordinary workplace, yet forced upon pilots flying multi-million dollar jets into combat and Special Forces soldiers operating behind enemy lines. In an extraordinary investigation, American military personnel speak for the first time to explain how they were used as guinea pigs in wars ranging from Panama, the Gulf, Bosnia, Afghanistan and right up until the recent conflict in Iraq. These are not dissidents, nor are they unpatriotic: they love their country and were ready to give their lives in its service. But they can no longer stand by and watch their comrades suffer as the Pentagon pushes more and more drugs onto the frontline.
"I guess I best remember it as almost paranoia. I had a dizziness; I wasnt falling over dizzy, but there was a little bit of a tumbling sensation going on. I felt paranoia where I was nervous and skittish about what was around me and what was happening. I wasnt in complete control." Steve Tait: Gulf War Hero "They made you ruthless, just utterly ruthless. I made decisions that I feel now I would not have made. I eliminated individuals that I considered to be a threat, that I would not normally have done." 'Mike': U.S. Special Forces: "A lot of times the fighter pilots say: 'speed is life, speed is life'; in this case, speed became death." Lt. Col Tom Heemstra: F-16 Squadron Cder "Many of the times, the sad part is that they cant tell if it was real or not. Thats the part that is really frightening."
In this documentary, filmed at locations throughout the United States and Britain, we speak with a former White House 'Drugs Czar' who expresses grave concerns about the use of amphetamines in the military; we interview the man who, as Air Force Chief of Staff, banned the drugs as soon as he took over, only to see them re-introduced after his retirement; we follow the story of one pilot who sacrificed his career in pursuit of the truth; we feature the case of a ground soldier who killed innocent civilians for reasons he cannot understand to this day. We explain how the 'voluntary' nature of dispensing these drugs makes legal nonsense and how the Pentagon may very well be breaking its own laws, to the detriment of its serving men and women; only to establish that, in reality, the U.S. military is a law unto itself. We discover that vital information on 'friendly fire' incidents, including the deaths of nine British soldiers in the Gulf War, has been withheld and we examine the true human costs of wars fought on drugs.
http://www.acftv.com/streaming/wmedia.asp?stream_id=1
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Viki
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This is the stuff they're using,

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excellence
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How many of these do they take per day, 5-6 or as many as they need?
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chgrn
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Back to us, candice and others -- here there are various pills sizes of Addy

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voyager
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I feel sorry for those that have to take a lot of amphetamines or get hooked on that stuff. It will destroy your body in a really awful way.
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chgrn
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Indeed, voyager! Although it looks like the majority of soldiers that use them do not become hooked once they come home from the killing spree; nor do they look like physically/mentally deteriorated, they just have a typical @sshole attitude and that's it!
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inndut
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[...] they just have a typical @sshole attitude and that's it!
They may well have had that attitude before they were sent to war
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[...] they just have a typical @sshole attitude and that's it!
They may well have had that attitude before they were sent to war
Not to mention they're not the only ones with that attitude, inndut!
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Not to mention they're not the only ones with that attitude, inndut!
Of course they are not the only ones, newest, but the ones here at home do not hold guns to risk other peoples' lives, as those soldiers out there in the battlefield do! Drugging of soldiers is much more problematic then, say, of a lawyer, or a politician!
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Of course they are not the only ones, newest, but the ones here at home do not hold guns to risk other peoples' lives, as those soldiers out there in the battlefield do! Drugging of soldiers is much more problematic then, say, of a lawyer, or a politician!
Except for the "gang bangers", they hold guns to risk other peoples lives. I would take my chances with the military rather than a gang.
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AngelWolf13
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Re: The Need For Speed: Going To War On Drugs [Re: fromabove]
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more pics.......
there is a legitimate use for these too, you know.
(hello, fromabove )
p.s. hey, my 200th post!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fromabove
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You know, I must also add to my last post. In my opinion, I really don't mind that the military, (at least our fighter pilots anyhow) use "speed". If it keeps them more alert & gives them the edge that just may save their lives in combat situations then Im all for it. It's a hell of a lot better than losing them as well as our planes in battle.
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sheherazade
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It's a hell of a lot better than losing them as well as our planes in battle.
I completely agree with the second half of your statement. I am sure DOD would too!
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Lablady2
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Our armed forces are nothing more than animals for the government to experiment on - and in my opinion it is absolutely DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!
One only has to remember the forced anthrax vaccines made by some outfit called Bioport whose Chairman was a former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - conflict of interest - ya think????????
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astride
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LOL sheherazade! 
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apropos
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Drugging of soldiers is much more problematic then, say, of a lawyer, or a politician!
If only it'd be so!
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IMSUSCOT1
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They've been doing this since WWII. My father was a submariner in WWII and was hooked on methamphetamine when he came out of the service. They got them hooked on it then discharged them into the world with the monkey on their backs. He had problems for the rest of his life as a result...it wasn't as easy to obtain illegally back then as it is now...you really had to WORK at it. That's your US government for ya!
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