catmom
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As far as arguing about the strength of a cup of coffee, I have one of them new-fangled ones that allows me to put as much coffee as I want in the filter before I brew it. Imagine that there. The possibilities for me and this new contraption are endless.......
LMFAO--Thanks for a laugh, dsack. I am trying to struggle out of a bad depression so this is MUCH appreciated! 
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infliksta
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Reged: 10/29/03
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dhc isn't even close to hydro for me can eat 150mg of it with 200 codine and it doesn't do shi t hydro at least does something. i would say that dhc or codine for that matter is far weaker than hydro. like 400mg =30 or 40 hydro
but thats just my opinion i don't think my body can process enough codine to get relief what is it like 400 mg at a dose and then anything over that is just pissed out or whatever.
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harley88
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Reged: 06/17/03
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I was not aware that Panlor-SS was sold in the USA until I read this thread tonite .About samples ,I have got percocet from the ER from one of the local hospitals here and have also got a couple of different types of hydro from some of the local ER,s here .I thought that was common place and was not unusal .
I thought I would comment about one more thing .I know everyone is different and have different tolerances .I got some 30 mg DHC last month and was really surprised after reading some peoples comments about the strenght of it .I thought it was pretty good myself .I have been reading some of the narcotic dosage calculators and have seen the equivlent charts for hydro and codeine .I think I saw were 30 mg of DHC was equal to 60 mg of codeine .On the narcotic dosage charts that I looked at 60 mg of codeine was equal to 6 mg of hydrocodone .The DHC I got last month felt like it was as strong if not stronger than 10 mg of hydrocodone and even felt like hydrocodone.I wish I had some now.
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PugDog78
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I got Panlor a few months ago. It is very effective.
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calyrun
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Reged: 10/18/04
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This website in amazing and has helped me so much this last month. Last week my doctor gave me a prescription for Panlor. I had never heard of it. Searched DB and sure enough I find what I'm looking for. These pills seem very weak to me, weaker that hydrocodone (sp) 10 or 7.5. I had a prescription for mepergan forte (I'm not sure how to spell any of these medications) and it made me, well it made me too out of it, and not in a good way. I always loved that demerol shot after surgery, but the demerol in those mepergan pills must be affected by the other ingredients. I only took like five of them then had my prescription switched (to the panlor). I'm calling my doctor today to switch again. I want to be mostly pain free and take a medication that makes me feel good. That "good feeling" helps with the pain releif mentally I think.
Also I've tried codeine and does absolutely nothing, when I was a kid I remember taking codeine cough syrup and feeling on top of the world. That was over twenty years ago. Can a drug like codeine change?
Seems like for me hydro medications work best mentally and physically. I've never taken Oxycontin/ Oxycodone (I don't know the difference.
My doctor gave me five month prescription for the Panlor. The mepergan was only one month with no refill. I assume that has something to do with the schedule level.
I'm not an expert on medications yet, but I am becoming one. I have a nine year old autistic son who is currently on risperdal, buspar, remeron and some kind of tranquilizer for emergencies. We are constantly tweaking doses and changing his antidepressant. I'm switching topics, but my point is I'm trying to educate myself regarding my son's medications and also trying to keep myself in top functioning form through medication education.
I love this site and appreciate so much what I am learning.
Thank you all.
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shadowrose40
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Reged: 10/23/03
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Loc: NC
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HI
The 'feel good' aspect of pain meds usually wears off, if you have it at all.
The goal of pain management is pain control. A lot of docs will decrease dosages if the patient reports too much 'feel good'.
When administered properly, pain medicine (once accomidated to it) should do nothing but relieve pain.
The pill form of demerol is different than IV/IM dosages. It doesn't work nearly as well for most people (Was useless for me)
Basically, the idea of pain medicine is to control pain, not get a buzz. And the buzz is usually short lived.
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Unnamed
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When administered properly, pain medicine (once accomidated to it) should do nothing but relieve pain.
If it were to make you "feel good", that would be immoral. This is why the government spends billions of dollars every year to make sure that, at best, you "feel okay".
No one is allowed to feel good without special permission from the government. Try to appreciate that many people have sacrificed their lives for you to "enjoy" the freedom that you have: Freedom to control your own life to the extent that the DEA approves of. If it requires that millions suffer pain in order to be protected from potentially making immoral choices, then that is clearly a price that Americans are willing to pay.
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MetsFan
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Reged: 09/21/03
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>>No one is allowed to feel good without special permission >>from the government. Try to appreciate that many people >>have sacrificed their lives for you to "enjoy" the >>freedom that you have: Freedom to control your own life >>to the extent that the DEA approves of. If it requires >>that millions suffer pain in order to be protected from >>potentially making immoral choices, then that is clearly >>a price that Americans are willing to pay.
Yes. That is my understanding of how LE and the rest of our government feels about it. For the non-religious its "OK" to have a few drinks, but not every day. The funny thing is that the rate of alcoholism is very high in LE, especially in the urban and suburban areas (more people to cover for you).
As far as the codeine, DHC, hydro, oxycodone debate. Different strokes for.. Some folks like pain relief without APAP or ibuprofen (health reasons).
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MetsFan
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One more note. I am old school. Been around a few blocks. I think the receptors of a codeine based product may be closer to opiate street drugs. I do not recomend that hassle of using them. The LE, social and other issues.
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want2bcalm
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Reged: 04/03/04
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Eeyore, I love the bit about the liver being a shriveled up piece of beef jerky. I try to discreetly tell my relatives that Tylenol isn't so harmless...because of all the advertising everyone thinks it is so safe.
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