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t_oshan2003
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Soma - Carisoprodol
      #132820 - 01/30/04 07:45 AM

I have been reading some threads on Soma and also gone to some websites to check out the facts on it. It seams to be a mild pain relaxer, my question is does it have APAP in it? I take tylenol 3's for back pain and when I lift and am sore but hate the fact that it has 300mg of APAP. Would switching to SOMA be a good idea? Would it provide me with the same pain relief? Is it safer or more dangerouse than tylenol 3?
Thanks!


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D2003
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Re: Soma [Re: t_oshan2003]
      #132879 - 01/30/04 10:45 AM

Soma contains no APAP at all. However, I would not recommend taking it just by itself for pain relief. It is a muscle relaxant. Mixed with a proper pain reliever like your Tylenol 3's you will probably find that your pain killer has a more pronounced effect on your pain. Often when we are in pain, we tense up, which makes the pain worse, thus making us tense up more. A combination of Soma and a painkillers works really well at breaking the pain/tension/more pain cycle many of us are in. It is quite safe to take with just about every painkiller I know of. I personally take Hydro 10/160 (a compound) with Soma 4 times a day, and have done for some time. No ill effects at all. Soma can sometimes cause you to feel a little nausea, but a slice of bread with butter just before taking your meds generally overcomes that problem nicely. The only other side effect I have noticed is that it does tend to make you sleepy. I still get that way, even after years of taking it. This is definitely one med you do not want to take at work. Save it for home use when it is okay for you to nod off in front of your computer.

There is one version about that has 175mg of Soma and the rest is APAP, but most sites list it as such so you can avoid it. Full on Soma contains 350mg of the med, and is relatively easy to get almost anywhere.


D2003

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t_oshan2003
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Re: Soma [Re: D2003]
      #132900 - 01/30/04 11:53 AM

Thanks D2003, I was hoping I could substitute the soma for the tylenol but if you are saying that it won't relieve the pain like the tylenol 3 then I won't bother with adding another med. The tylenol works well but I am concerned about the APAP, I wish I could get the watson 10/325, all I need to do is break one in half and my pain is fine and thats a lot less APAP.


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JayStraw
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Re: Soma [Re: t_oshan2003]
      #160659 - 05/09/04 07:51 AM

So, is this much more effective than Flexeril or Zanaflex in anyones opinion?

Is it more addictive? I have heard stories of Soma W/D's....


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Re: Soma [Re: JayStraw]
      #160748 - 05/09/04 04:20 PM

I like zanaflex better. It just works for me. I have some soma and I alternate it with the zanaflex so it continues to work.

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D2003
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Re: Soma [Re: trixxie]
      #160767 - 05/09/04 06:19 PM

Like all medications, what works for some, may not work at all for others. (We all have different body chemistries.) I did the route of everything else before using Soma. Personally, I don't find it addictive (went three full days without any and didn't feel a thing....well, except tense.) In fact, I can't even find it in the DEA's med schedule. It's considered low end, partly because it is an older med, and partly because it is really, really, really hard to get hooked on it. Sometimes I think the older meds are better than all this new stuff they are prescribing by the bucketful! (That stuff can devolop dependencies in under a week in some cases.)

You will eventually develop a tolerance but it seems to take quite some time, (years even), for that to happen. Can't say that about a lot of the 'modern' meds they are prescribing now.

What I have found is mixing Soma with a painkiller actually lets the painkiller do its job just that much better. I've put several friends onto the combinatiion and many are now taking less painkillers because the Soma won't let them tense up and make what ever pain they do have that much worse. But again, what works for some, does not work for all. No medication is one size fits all...and I really wish doctors would wake up to this fact.

D2003


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Re: Soma [Re: D2003]
      #164163 - 05/23/04 05:29 PM


Does anyone know if soma will show up on drug tests, like benzos do? Thank you in advance.


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LumbarSpasm
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Re: Soma [Re: ace321]
      #164208 - 05/23/04 10:08 PM

I am not aware of a test that tests for this drug.
It is not part of any illegal drug class, is non-opiate, is not a benzodiazepine, is not an amphetamine...does contain THC.
Nope, it will not show up to the best of my knowledge.

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Re: Soma [Re: D2003]
      #166800 - 06/05/04 07:59 AM

Quote:

I did the route of everything else before using Soma. Personally, I don't find it addictive (went three full days without any and didn't feel a thing....well, except tense.) In fact, I can't even find it in the DEA's med schedule. It's considered low end, partly because it is an older med, and partly because it is really, really, really hard to get hooked on it. Sometimes I think the older meds are better than all this new stuff they are prescribing by the bucketful! (That stuff can devolop dependencies in under a week in some cases.)

You will eventually develop a tolerance but it seems to take quite some time, (years even), for that to happen. Can't say that about a lot of the 'modern' meds they are prescribing now.




I am in total agreement with the above post and poster. The "older" meds I take are soma (for "lesser" pain,level 6-8) and chloral hydrate (for insomnia).

I've taken each on a daily basis for months (though never concurrently), never built a tolerance, abruptly stopped and never experienced w/d symptoms of any kind.

Many years ago, chloral hydrate came in green gel-pill form. I had refills left but couldn't find a pharmacy that had any.

A few years ago while speaking to a friend (who happens to be a pharmacist and owns two pharmacies but not locally, maybe 25 minutes away) I mentioned "whatever happened to chloral hydrate" and he advised me that the liquid form has been available all along and if I couldn't find a local pharmacy that carries it, he'd be happy to fill a script.

I called around and found only one local pharmacy (a CVS but this is the only local CVS that orders/stocks it) that carries the liquid so I got a script and have been using them since.

Many doctors are reluctant to prescribe this drug (mine isn't thank goodness, probably because he is "older") and I have no idea why - it works, there are no side effects, no tolerance and no withdrawel!

A friend of mine takes it also, but getting his Dr to prescribe was and still is like pulling teeth. He commented to my friend that if he could find a pharmacy that still carries it, then it must be in an area where many elderly people who have been taking the med for years reside - which is true, as is the area where my pharmacist friend's pharmacies are located!!

I wholeheartedly feel the older meds are better than the newer ones.

Does anyone know of an "older" pain med for the very severe (9-10) days? I've tried Vioxx, Flexeril, Amytriptaline(sp) and Neurontin to no avail and I'd love to stop taking hydro.

I've been on it less than a year, and though it does take the edge off and sometimes a bit more, I don't like it (not my idea of fun and hard to believe it's a recreational drug of choice- YUCK) plus the thought of w/d terrifies me!

Thanks to anyone who has ideas

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Re: Soma - Carisoprodol [Re: t_oshan2003]
      #169251 - 06/16/04 09:54 PM

I've been taking Soma close to 3 years now, and I could go for weeks without taking any, and not suffer any ill effects. Just recently, I had run out of the Soma and suffered some withdrawal symptoms. They weren't severe, but they were very uncomfortable (have written a thread about it).

IMHO, I think it's great for relieving muscle spasms (I have herniated disks at L4-L5) and to be able to sleep through the night. It also helps to relieve the pain, but that is probably because the spasms I have with my back pain are reduced by the Soma. I've taken Flexeril as well, but all that did was knock me out without really helping to manage my pain and muscle spasms. I really agree with the fact that the older drugs can sometimes be the better ones - they have been around for a longer period of time, there is more information on them and they are not being given to the pharmaceutical reps. by the pharm. companies to the doctors to 'sell', or, ummm, prescribe.

I just have a very negative opinion regarding a lot of the new meds coming out. When I go to the doctor's office, there are pens and notepads and posters on the office wall promoting Lexapro, Celebrex, Vioxx, etc., and these seem to be given out so often (even after I told the doctor that these do NOT work for me).

Corrie

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Re: Soma [Re: nylady]
      #175204 - 07/20/04 06:14 AM

Howdy. One of the reasons Soma works so well is that it's first-pass metabolism produces meprobamate, better known as "Miltown." So it tranquilizes as it relieves muscles spams. I agree with you, I've always referred to it as an adjunct medication--something to be taken with my pain medication--and like you, I've tried'em all the little cyclobenazprines that put me down for a nap, the huge Skelaxins that sometimes hit me like a brick wall, and sometimes do nothing at all, but a Soma and a Valium-bingo. My benzo tolerance is a little creepy, but I can live with that.
I would love to drop any narcotic from my daily regime. I guess acupuncture is next is terms of pain control. I have a benign L-1 tumor that has mostly taken over my vertebra, surgery is out and its pressing on a nerve bundle, hence the pain--so since mild yoga is okay, why not stick (really, no pun intended) with the Asian arts, like acupuncture. If its worked for thousands of years, why not now? PT hasn't really gotten me that far, so hey--something new to try. I'll tell you how it goes.

Cheers,


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Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: Laurelolo23]
      #198313 - 11/04/04 04:35 PM

Hi, all-
I'm looking for the quickest, fastest and cheapest OP to get 90-120 Soma. I've been using sunsetpharmacy.com, out of New Jersey. With them i've been getting #120 watson Soma from them for $75. I always choose the 2 day express saver as i always receive the pills overnight anyway. I'm hesitant to use them now as they have been reported to the bad business bureau for selling bogus phentermine numerous times in the past few weeks, yet it is still listed on their site. Plus, this morning when I was looking into it, it took over an hour for the site to come up, never a good sign. I want an op that doesn't subject me to an administrative review, which seems so common now, and can hold up shipping/meds for 2-4 days. The last time I ordered Soma I actually tried through coolwaterpharmacy.com (a sub-division of yourprescriptionsforless.com) #90 watson soma @ $79 and, while they didn't state so on their homepage, once I placed my order they informed me I would have to go through the admin review, where I sat for 3 days before they informed me that as a result of the review, my order was refused. This entire ordeal was ridiculous to me. I wasn't double dipping and they never told me why my order was denied. I just don't want to order from one place and then find out i'm subject to an admin review that holds up my meds for days while i go without.
I do plan to order from globalrxexpress when I can afford to wait a couple weeks, especially because folks are saying the quality is better with the wallace, but as I'm down to my last 10 tabs, I need my meds sooner than they can deliver.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
Voo

Edited by Voo (11/04/04 04:39 PM)


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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: Voo]
      #198315 - 11/04/04 04:59 PM

Hi Voo,

I too have used sunset several times and it does seem like something is up with them. Try phentermine-rankings.com for us based NROPS may offer soma or www.Nextdaysoma.com. I cannot vouche for any of these sites but have seen pretty decent FB!!

Good luck

Andrea (RNRANGEL on the vip side)

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Re: Soma - Carisoprodol [Re: t_oshan2003]
      #204343 - 12/01/04 12:10 PM

Just to let everyone know. When Purchasing SOMA. The WATSON brand Soma is the "DAN" Pills. DAN 5513

Many people get confused thinking this is not watson.


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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: Voo]
      #204407 - 12/01/04 04:51 PM

cool water is also sunset/sisters, etc. You can get 90 watsons delivered overnight from www.netrxforless.com for $85.

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Re: Soma - Carisoprodol [Re: jmdombr]
      #204953 - 12/03/04 12:39 PM

Quote:

Just to let everyone know. When Purchasing SOMA. The WATSON brand Soma is the "DAN" Pills. DAN 5513

Many people get confused thinking this is not watson.




DAN is short for Danbury...a pharma in Puerto Rico that Watson purchased.

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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: Voo]
      #204973 - 12/03/04 01:28 PM

mypresciptionsonline offers 120 count for $75 and free shipping.

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jmdombr
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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: bandoggegirl]
      #204984 - 12/03/04 02:00 PM

DAN has nothing to do with Danbury Pharm.

Dan is simply the city in which the watson plant manufactures the generic solid dose drugs

http://www.watsonpharm.com/location_detail.asp?node=career&loc=7&page_type=HTML

DAN is short for Danbury, CT

This location makes many of the generic doses. All generics manufactured from this location are stamped "DAN"

Watson makes many others in their Corodo, California loccation.


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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: jmdombr]
      #204989 - 12/03/04 02:05 PM

Good soma source:

www.sisterspharmacy.com


-jeff


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Re: Soma? OP-quickest, fastest, cheapest? recommendations? [Re: hello889]
      #205003 - 12/03/04 03:21 PM

Quote:

Good soma source:

www.sisterspharmacy.com


-jeff



See Voo's post about coolwater. It's a mirror site of sisters.

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