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Opie_Yates
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So how many here have, after one frustrating appointment after another with an ortho, neuro, or PM doc, just shot straight with their doctor and gave 'em the old "You're Fired! (tm by Trump)"? For those of you not being properly treated for your pain, might I just suggest those two simple words after your next appointment? They work great, and I think have some good karmic effect. I did this very thing a few months ago (with his PA present), and only one week later, found a doctor who gave me all I need to be pain free again. The guy got all Porky Pig with me and said "um, um, um...well, if we can set you up with an MRI, based on the results, perhaps we could work on some more aggressive pain management!" I said "um, um...maybe you should have thought to suggest this before I came in for a dozen appointments and all you handed me was medicine that was going to give me a heart attack. Thanks, Doctor O, but I am going to be picking up my records within the next week." What a liberating feeling!
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astrophel2
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Good for you! I wish I had said the same to my previous doctor. I went in a dozen times for "flank pain" before I switched PCPs, the letters M-R-I never having been suggested.
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dsmmcm
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So how many here have, after one frustrating appointment after another with an ortho, neuro, or PM doc, just shot straight with their doctor and gave 'em the old "You're Fired! (tm by Trump)"?
I sure agree with you in principle, but in practice this approach may backfire. Doctors do talk to each other, and you might be shooting yourself in the foot if you Pi$$ off your current doc and your new one finds out. I've fired a few. I just don't make another appointment, or cancel the one I have. One time I did let it fly was when my new doctor tried to refer me to the one I just fired! I made it abundantly clear to the new guy that the guy he was recommending was a dolt.
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Opie_Yates
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So how many here have, after one frustrating appointment after another with an ortho, neuro, or PM doc, just shot straight with their doctor and gave 'em the old "You're Fired! (tm by Trump)"?
I sure agree with you in principle, but in practice this approach may backfire. Doctors do talk to each other, and you might be shooting yourself in the foot if you Pi$$ off your current doc and your new one finds out. I've fired a few. I just don't make another appointment, or cancel the one I have. One time I did let it fly was when my new doctor tried to refer me to the one I just fired! I made it abundantly clear to the new guy that the guy he was recommending was a dolt.
D.
Well...so far I haven't been cut off. I took my records to a PCP, and this city is so big, I would be amazed if they even had a chance to say "boo" to each other. They are in different parts of town, and they are priviledged at different hospitals.
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kandi
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So how many here have, after one frustrating appointment after another with an ortho, neuro, or PM doc, just shot straight with their doctor and gave 'em the old "You're Fired! (tm by Trump)"? For those of you not being properly treated for your pain, might I just suggest those two simple words after your next appointment? They work great, and I think have some good karmic effect. I did this very thing a few months ago (with his PA present), and only one week later, found a doctor who gave me all I need to be pain free again. The guy got all Porky Pig with me and said "um, um, um...well, if we can set you up with an MRI, based on the results, perhaps we could work on some more aggressive pain management!" I said "um, um...maybe you should have thought to suggest this before I came in for a dozen appointments and all you handed me was medicine that was going to give me a heart attack. Thanks, Doctor O, but I am going to be picking up my records within the next week." What a liberating feeling!
Man, I should have fired the whole team, except for my compassionate PCP! I had/have about 100 things wrong with my back...I waited 4 weeks to get an appt. with the ortho's PA!!!!!! He proceeds to give me an epidural in my SI joint, WITHOUT benefit of any Xray guidance, which I found out AFTERWARDS is S.O.P. He most definitely hit a spinal nerve, and not only was the pain not lessened, it INCREASED exponentially! I called two days later to let him know I was in even more severe pain, and his response was basically 'you can't possibly be..and if you are, then tuff s***'. After three days of abject suffering through a long holiday weekend, I called my PCP, and explained what had happened. He was APPALLED, to say the least, and immediately put me on 90 mg. of Avinza/day (sustained release morphine)and referred me to pain management. Well, enter the PMD. HE decides my problem is all related to diseased facet joints, and sets me up for nerve ablasion. THAT DIDN'T WORK EITHER. And this must be the only PMD in the Western Hemishphere that doesn't 'believe in' prescribing pain meds...by this point, it was out of the hands of the PCP. I turned to a legit OP for pain meds. Ended up quitting my job two weeks after I returned to work from 3 months of medical leave, after one of the biggest drug test 'stings' I have ever seen. Was hit with a random urine,(random, my a**) they found legitimate prescription drugs in my system, along with Valium, which I initially had no explanation for, but remembered that I had had IV sedation during the nerve ablasion 10 days before...hmmmm...one would think that proof of this would have been sufficient to explain my situation, but to no avail. Was referred to "Employee Assistance Program", which is anything BUT, and was told I had to go off all of my meds, even while still under treatment! I told them to stuff their job, which in a year and a half had ruined my back in the first place. I am now stuck with a much lesser paying job, and no health insurance, and CHRONIC BACK PAIN. I am looking into finding a good medical malpractice attorney, since I am now convinced that the root cause of most of my chronic pain is the botched epidural, which was not done under the guidelines it should have been. Wish me luck..sorry to ramble, but I have never received such poor treatment in my life, and it basically cost me my job, because I took a stand and said that THEY would not dictate what meds would be prescribed for ME. Keep in mind that I had received my annual performance eval the week upon my return from medical leave, and it was OUTSTANDING, so there was no issue with job performance. The bottom line was with a back issue, possibly requiring further surgery at some point, I had become a financial liability to them.
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curiousdee
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I've never actually told a doctor,"You are fired." But I have told a few, look you and eye don't see things the same way and I am going to use someone else. Thank you. There is a doctor on every corner. If you have chronic pain, seek a pain managment clinic that suits you. I will help you if you would like. Just pm me. I have suffered with chronic back problems, I just had a MRI of my lumbar last week. I have three herniated disc, disc degenerative disease, osteophytes developed on my spine, spinal stenosis, on and on. And to top it off I have a fracutred hip. Believe me, I can feel your pain. I'm sorry about your job, but it sounds like you are better off out of there. I wouldn't want to work in that type of enviroment. Although I have worked in an office enviroment similar to the one you described. I also know names of some Medmal attorneys. It depends on what state you are in. Just pm me. And know that we are all here for you.
Wishing you pain free days,
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Opie_Yates
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Sounds like Kandi needs MedMal AND employment. Retaliation is not looked upon favorably at all...in ANY state.
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dsmmcm
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Well...so far I haven't been cut off. I took my records to a PCP, and this city is so big, I would be amazed if they even had a chance to say "boo" to each other. They are in different parts of town, and they are priviledged at different hospitals.
Yeah, I would agree that in a large city and in different parts of town, you should be okay.
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kandi
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I've never actually told a doctor,"You are fired." But I have told a few, look you and eye don't see things the same way and I am going to use someone else. Thank you. There is a doctor on every corner. If you have chronic pain, seek a pain managment clinic that suits you. I will help you if you would like. Just pm me. I have suffered with chronic back problems, I just had a MRI of my lumbar last week. I have three herniated disc, disc degenerative disease, osteophytes developed on my spine, spinal stenosis, on and on. And to top it off I have a fracutred hip. Believe me, I can feel your pain. I'm sorry about your job, but it sounds like you are better off out of there. I wouldn't want to work in that type of enviroment. Although I have worked in an office enviroment similar to the one you described. I also know names of some Medmal attorneys. It depends on what state you are in. Just pm me. And know that we are all here for you.
Wishing you pain free days,
Curiousdee
Thanks for the kind words, Dee. It really is a HUGE mess, and I took such a pay cut that I am going to most likely lose my home..can't afford 1000.00/mo. mortgage payments on what I'm making now..am definitely looking into malpractice. One postscript that I forgot to mention: when I returned to finally see my REAL ortho, I was armed and ready to BLAST him about the treatment I received from the PA...only to find out that in the interim, the PA was 'no longer working there'. Things that make you go hmmmmmm....
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