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not2tall
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Reged: 08/22/04
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Loc: USA
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Ok...my first post after reading and researching this forum for many months. Great place and I never posted because of privacy issues but I have a question that I have not found the answer to and so I'm 'coming out' so to speak 
I have been looking for Adderal or Ritalin for months now with no success. I believe these two drugs are schedule2. So why is there a problem finding them online when many ops sell schedule2 pain meds like hydros without a pscript? I'd love someone to explain this to me as well as inform of any OPs that provide Adderal or Ritalin without pscript. The only Ritalin link on this website is to a Mexican Pharmacy group and they don't tell you the milligram and their website seems fishy anyways.
Thanks a bunch!
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ReOkie
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Reged: 02/20/04
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Loc: Oklahoma
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Hydro, etc is a Sch. III med, thus much easier to dispense.
Adderall (which I take) cannot be found but Ritilin can in some spots. I'll see if I can drum up a URL and you might want to check in the International Forum.
ReOkie
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AngelWolf13
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hi,
just so you know... hydro is only sch II when w/o apap. iow, vicoden, vicoprofen, norco, lortab, lorcet, etc. all have their hydro mixed with tylenol, ibuprofen, etc. which makes them "less abusable" and are therefore given a sch.III rating.
i believe all amphetamines are sch.II, even the relatively milder ones like adderal and ritalin. i have not ever seen adderal available online. i've also never ordered ritalin from online. have you tried using search for it?
welcome! glad to see you're "coming out"! good luck!
cheers, c.(angel)
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Edited by DrugBuyers (10/30/04 03:39 PM)
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chevyout
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hey, just so you guys know, rxbetterdeals is back under a new name, rxpillmax....just like the old betterdeals..and rx1stop is back up, used them 3x already and good prices and fast service as usual.... 
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nycalt
Reged: 05/04/04
Posts: 551
Loc: Manhattan, NYC
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To sum it up, think of it it this way. Oxycontin is Schedule II. Ever see that anywhere on the internet?
Although in general legalities of online consult/no rec OP's are still unclear, what is clear is that it is illegal for any schedule II med to be sold on the internet as laws dictate a personal visit by a doctor (by a domestic OP anyway; the fed's can't control IOP's, only attempt to control, through customs, what comes in).
Now, for Schedule IV meds (the benzo') and below (the rare schedule V, mostly liquid cough medicines with codeine) and unscheduled but still prescription required meds (everything from Paxil to Viagra to Penicillin), the federal laws are written in a way that, without further legislation anyway, make it very difficult and not worth the effort involved in a court case (since they would probably loose) to shut online consult/no rec required OP's as long as they play by the rules (don't allow ordering more than a three month supply, keep track of orders and prevent "early refills," etc.).
Now, of course I skipped over schedule III which consists of mainly hydro's, as long as they are mixed with something like APAP, and things like Tylenol 4; medium in intensity, effectiveness and abuse potential (at least as the feds see it) opiate (codeine) or synthetic opiate (hydrocodone) based pain meds mixed with non controlled meds, mostly APAP.
This is where things are really murky and reasonable, informed people can argue the laws prohibit online consult sales and other reasonable, informed people can agrue the exact opposite.
As I have mentioned before, these scheduling and prescribing laws were written long before someone could even image the internet and what it would do to create an alternative (to the usual family or other doctor visit) access to prescription meds.
Anyway, point being you are not going to find any schedule II from any domestic online source except e-mail type sources.
So your only option is IOP's. Adderal I have never seen available from an IOP. Ritalin on the other hand is available from at least a few IOP's I know of.
Although I don't use it, the cheapest and best bet I have seen for Ritalin is www.medicinegallery.com (and its many clones which often vary in price; alpinemeds.com, xyzmeds.com, amoung others).
I'm on their mailing list as I have ordered other meds from them and they just had a sale for 60 rit's for 62.50 which is about as cheap as you will find anywhere.
They are also a "drop shipper," alieviating some of the risks (namely seizure) involved ordering from an IOP but increasing your shipping fees.
I have, however, ordered other meds from them and they have always come through and are very reliable and actually have some level of customer service (they will respond to e-mails and seem to care when you have a problem).
Just allow 4 - 5 weeks to get your shipment. PM me if you have any other questions about ordering from them or IOP's in general as it is a whole different world from the domestic OP's you see discussed on this forum. Just one small example is you will generally get blister packs instead of little brown bottles (this, I think is a benefit as the blister packs help insure what you are getting and how old it is). There are lots of others.
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WickedNoah
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Reged: 10/02/04
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costaricarx.blogspot.com has cheaper Ritalin and you get it in about 7 business days.
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nycalt
Reged: 05/04/04
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Loc: Manhattan, NYC
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costaricarx.blogspot.com has cheaper Ritalin and you get it in about 7 business days.
Yeah, Heebster. Basically an e-mail source. Not a real OP. Risk is much higher you will be ripped off (especially considering the payment method required (Western Union transfers; once your money is gone it is gone. With a CC a chargeback is always an option)) and the OP is currently down.
Your choice. I personally would NEVER directly transfer money to someone. The one time I did I was scammed so I learned my lesson.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Doesn't mean you will be ripped off here, but your risk is sure a lot higher than with a real, reputable OP that accepts CC's like medicinegallery.
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WickedNoah
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Reged: 10/02/04
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Uh, just check his feedback - he doesn't rip anyone off. And he has a pharmacy, so it's more than an e-mail source. And you don't have to wait 3-5 weeks, if you don't want to. Maybe some e-mail sources are ripoffs, and maybe some WU transfer deals go into a black hole, but neither is the case with him. Habeebster is the man, with a lot of customers, and he'll reply to you in one business day every time if you have a question.
More an IOP than an e-mail source, I would say.
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nycalt
Reged: 05/04/04
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Loc: Manhattan, NYC
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Uh, just check his feedback - he doesn't rip anyone off. And he has a pharmacy, so it's more than an e-mail source. And you don't have to wait 3-5 weeks, if you don't want to. Maybe some e-mail sources are ripoffs, and maybe some WU transfer deals go into a black hole, but neither is the case with him. Habeebster is the man, with a lot of customers, and he'll reply to you in one business day every time if you have a question.
More an IOP than an e-mail source, I would say.
Really, than he should have a real site (not a blob site (i.e. like a home made web page which is what it is), accept credit cards, have a shopping cart type system, not make you check the availability of meds by e-mail before ordering, etc. That is all e-mail source like not IOP like.
Also, not all feedback is positive (I have read several threads on him).
But, I guess if you want Morphine, maybe he is your best bet (that is what he initally flooded my mail box with). I just looked at his medicine list and saw nothing that would make me want to take that kind of risk; nothing that isn;t available at many other places.
Now, if he had Oxycontin or Perc's or something really interesting and impossible to find any other way, that would be something maybe worth taking the risk for.
But Morphine, I have no interest in as I need pain relief and functioning ability not vomiting and sleeping (my prior experience with Morphine which he seems to be out of stock of anyway) and everything else you can get elsewhere at reputable IOP's that function as such.
So, I'd rather pay $10 more for piece of mind.
Me, Joe starlight is about as far as I will go as he uses a payment service. Even then, my first order was, as always, very small.
But, to each his own, if you like him, order from him.
You are intitled to your opinion as I am mine. And the origional poster can (and I am sure will) do what he likes. I am simply pointing out the risks and downsides of sending cash and e-mailing orders, no matter who it is.
But, then again, I would never order from biotran either because of its bizarre ordering system and I know many others swear by it.
I am just more careful (paranoid you could say I guess) when you start wire transferring money to some dude in Costa Rica, followed by an e-mail. I have never wire transferred money to anyone other than a family member for the 40 years of my life and plan to continue to avoid the risk if at all possible.
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not2tall
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Reged: 08/22/04
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Loc: USA
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Great info! Thanks. Makes much more sense now. I've searched for months...maybe not as thorough as I could have since now I have a site to look at. Please PM me if you find another.
Peace.
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