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lovely11
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Another BS article about teens buying drugs online
      #187343 - 09/18/04 08:04 PM

I think it's the same story we've read before but it's in the Reader's Digest October issue!! It's about the boy named Ryan Haight who ordered hydro off the internet. I tried to find the article online but could only get the September issue to load. This is in the October issue, which I received in the mail today. Anybody else get Reader's Digest this month?? This article is called "Deadly Medicine" and the tag line says "How one teenager lost his life buying drugs online".

Give me a break. The boy's mother was a nurse and his father was a doctor and he's buying hydro off the internet posing as a 25 year old chronic pain sufferer?!?! And his parents didn't know??? Yea right!!!

The article goes on to say that the pharmacy made $8 million dollars in 15 months from online sales! OMG

An interesting read if you can get your hands on a Reader's Digest - October issue. I'll keep checking the website to see when October articles are available and try to copy it here.

I hope someone writes to Reader's Digest and tells them the other side of the story. In fact, I'm getting my pen!

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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: lovely11]
      #187344 - 09/18/04 08:08 PM

I haven't gotten my RD yet, but I know the story you're talking about. It was posted a while back when it was on other sources. Also, you might want to move this post to the 'Related' area since it has nothing to do with US Ops.

Someone had posted the website this lady had made and some people posted on it, and it was just a big ole mess!

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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs on [Re: lovely11]
      #187356 - 09/18/04 10:48 PM

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I think it's the same story we've read before but it's in the Reader's Digest October issue!! It's about the boy named Ryan Haight who ordered hydro off the internet




I remember seeing a CBS story on the matter. At least I think it was the same kid who OD'd. Anyway, the particular story did one thing that kinda ticked me off. In the story the reporter refers to the mother and her two surviving children. Yeah, that's right, her "surviving" children. As if the siblings were lucky to be alive and not dead like their brother! I love how the media choses its words to effectively twist things.


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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: lovely11]
      #187380 - 09/19/04 04:35 AM

i have a subscription to rd and i did read that article and i got sooo mad!!!! thought about cancelling, but your idea is a better one! i was going to post as i got it in the mail at least a couple of weeks ago, but i was wondering how to do it w/o having to type out the whole article as i am sure there isn't a link for it. thanks for posting. that was a horrible, one-sided, and i believe biased article full of half-truths if not some outright lies. grrrrrrrrrr. i am not (normally) a cruel person, but i hope that the person who wrote this spin suddenly realizes what chronic pain sufferers feel in the worst possible way and then can't find a doctor to prescribe him (or her, i forgot the authors name and i am too lazy right now to get the Best if kept off the board magazine) anything stronger than naproxen!!!!!

there! i feel strangely better now.

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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: AngelWolf13]
      #187397 - 09/19/04 09:56 AM

Cripes, not again! I knew Ryan and his death had nothing to do with the hydro he got from FF. Do a search on his name for more info.

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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: lovely11]
      #187444 - 09/19/04 07:09 PM

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Give me a break. The boy's mother was a nurse and his father was a doctor and he's buying hydro off the internet posing as a 25 year old chronic pain sufferer?!?! And his parents didn't know??? Yea right!!!

For arguments sake, the boy's parents occupations have nothing to do with him obtaining controlled substances online. Any kid can pick a false identity and get meds throught an NR site. Everyone knows this (I hope). Also, we should all be aware of the consequences (and convinces) of being able to obtain drugs via internet.






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The article goes on to say that the pharmacy made $8 million dollars in 15 months from online sales! OMG




Is that number not reasonable to you? Break it down and you will see that depending on the operation, they will rake in an ammount of cash similar to the one you quoted from readers digest.


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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: lovely11]
      #187460 - 09/19/04 10:11 PM

Interested, here is the whole story. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/12/eveningnews/main611469.shtml

There is an Act in Effect, or working on being passed, Check this out.


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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: phatcats333]
      #187525 - 09/20/04 12:07 PM

Thanks for the link. It is a very frustrating and biased article to read. If this kid's dad and mom were both medical, how could they not see the signs of addiction? Did they not ever ask what was being delivered to their house? It seems like this kid was totally unsupervised.

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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: TLM2]
      #188283 - 09/23/04 10:00 PM

G_d rest the young man's soul, but it needs to be repeated that this story is being twisted time and time again by the media and it is 3 years old. Reading the facts and then reading what's being put before the curious populace about on-line ops is making a cynic of someone (me) who always tried to be positive. There is no other way to classify these stories except to call them for what they are, lies.

The young man was an amateur chemist seeking the ultimate high. He was a highly active participant on a board that would scare the bejebees out of most of us. When challenged on that statement a while back on the VIP Board, I randomly picked two posts from the young man's favorite board to demonstrate its content. Here is part of one and you can't tell me I'm quoting this out of context:

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5-MeO-a-ET aka 1-(5-methoxy-1H-indol-3-y)butan-2-amine

No, I don't have myself confused. Its NOT 5-meo-amt. I guess it should be noted that I have taken 50mg Ritalin (non time release) throughout the day, 20mg around noon, 20mg at 2:30 and 10mg at 4:50pm and I have taken a fair amount of Piracetam (maybe 6g) and some choline at around 2. 200mg 5-htp was taken at 4:50 with the Ritalin as well.

It should also be noted that I tried a small amount of 5-meo-mipt for the first time on mon. (today is weds) but I really doubt any of these variables will affect my trip much, if any. I had a good nights sleep the night before and ate a very light dinner around 5. Only other thing I've had all day was a bowl of cereal for breakfast.

Ok, Now I guess I should give my prior drug experience so everyone will know what I can compare this to. I had experience with LSD, Mushrooms, Ketamine, MDMA, Methylone, Dipt, 5-meo-dipt, 4-aco-dipt, 4-aco-det, 2c-b, 2c-i, 2c-e, 2c-t-2, AMT, DPT, DXM, Salvia, 5-meo-mipt, stimulants, opiates, benzos, you get the point. I am pretty versed in drugs.





Makes DB seem like yoga.com! The opiates and benzos are just appetizers on that poster's menu.

I hate to have to keep bringing up unpleasant facts about this young man's demise, but chronic pain patients are being pushed against the wall on this one.

Ryan, I know you are resting in a better place and none of this was really your fault. You made youthful errors, I did my share too. For those old enough to understand, they called me a "garbagehead" 30+ years ago, but I never went into my chemistry set looking to get high. Whatever I took in my youth was at least in some way meant for human consumption.

The Xanax from the OP the young man contacted was simply to take the "edge" off the concoction he was experimenting with which involved morphine and other stuff. In fact, I'd have to venture there is a strong likelyhood that at least some of his ingredients could have been stolen through his family's legitimate medical access. His father was an eye surgeon and I believe an earlier post mentioned his mother was a nurse. There's no proof of that however, but the rest of his arsenal certainly didn't come from the types of OPs we depend on.

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You haven't seen me for a while. Nice, medically endorsed and freely dispensed Lexapro screwed my life up something serious the last two months. Last week they wanted to send an ambulance over to take me to a mental hospital.

Two years of wonderous relief from my pain through hydrocodone never had an effect on my daily life. BTW, none of the doctors suggested any relationship between my modest use of hydro in addition to Lexapro may have caused all these problems and cost me everything I had in life.

That Lexapro made me like an insane person. I continually thought I was wearing an imaginary hat that I kept trying to take off. That looks real good at work. Finally, HR calls me in and says I'm unproductive and am walking too slow now (after a stunning career) and my job is in danger.

I stopped taking it suddenly (against advice) and really lost it for at least the last two weeks.

I know this is real OT, but when you are talking about drugs, let's be straight on what the dangerous ones really are. Was I prescibed Lexapro based on a careful analysis of my complaints (general depressed feeling over many recent family illnesses, the sick state of the world and the sad state of the economy and middle aged malaise)? No, they said let's see what samples the pharmaceutical reps have brought in this week. My Telemedicine Provider questioned me a LOT more before suggesting hydro. Ironically, with the Lexapro, all anyone was concerned about was the one thing that I know that I would NEVER do --commit suicide.

All I ever asked the docs at the medical center for was an Rx for Xanax or Valium for occassional use. I said now and then I get a little anxious about life and I feel I need something that works like a shot of scotch; calms me for an evening. Not these new, blood level SSRI's that mess with your head. Xanax, Valium, Clonopin, just one of those to have on hand to get me through tough times. They absolutely refused, said "we don't give that stuff out here".

Understand why we need Telemedicine Providers. Last thing I told the shrink when she wanted me to replace the Lexapro with a combo of two drugs, one "brand new" was "Dr. you may know your medicines very well, but I know me better than you do and I know what will help me". No wonder you see all those sidebar ads from lawyers in the papers with these drug names as the heading.

I think I lost some brain functioning too. I forgot a lot of words that I used to know.

No one looks at me the same anymore, family, co-workers. They're fortunate enough not to have experienced these things and ask inappropriate questions like "How many (Lexapro) have you taken today?", "Are you still on them?", "Did you just take something", "You don't need drugs, just learn to face your problems".

Good old hydro, used judiciously by a responsible adult made it possible to sit in a chair and do productive work without continually concentrating on pain. But hydro is the evil one. Of course, we know hydro too is not a miracle drug for all, the dependency problem is real and many handle it sadly. You can often tell from their posts. However, that doesn't make hydro intrinsically evil by a longshot. In NYC, there has been a spate of insane "husband taking wife/ex-wife/kids hostage", usually resulting in deaths.

  • How many took a hydro before going wild - probably zero
  • How many took a valium before going wild - probably zero
  • How many smoked a joint before going wild- probably zero

  • How many were taking SSRI's before going wild - at least a few

  • How many were drinking before going wild - most of the rest.


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Re: Another BS article about teens buying drugs online [Re: lovely11]
      #193023 - 10/12/04 12:23 AM

Propaganda

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