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chemod2001
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PHENOBARBITONE 30MG (GENERICS) , TALWINS (PENTAZOC
      #191188 - 10/05/04 07:22 PM

can anyone tell me more about these two drugs that I have ound on a list

PHENOBARBITONE 30MG (GENERICS)

TALWINS (PENTAZOCINE) 25MG (SNOFI-SEARLE)

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WickedNoah
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Re: PHENOBARBITONE 30MG (GENERICS) , TALWINS (PENTAZOC [Re: chemod2001]
      #191209 - 10/05/04 08:39 PM

Hmmm, well:

phenobarbitone = phentobarbital, and 30mg is a very small dose. Phenobarbital was the first barbituate - it takes a very long time to reach your brain and a very long time to leave, plus it accelerates the rate of hydrocodone removal from the body. There is no euphoric experience, and it can't even be used as a sleep aid because of its long half-life. Because of all of these reasons, it's best used for detoxing off something. But the dose for this is much higher than 30mg.

Talwins = pentazocine. It's an opioid used for pain relief. From what has been posted on the boards, it seems that junkies in the 1970s preferred to inject it and it would give them seizures. I don't think it's chemically related to the opiates like codeine and morphine, which would help explain why it could have these side effects. Because it became an epidemic, drug companies started adding naloxone to the pill, which is an opiate antagonist. It's inactive if you eat it, but it you inject it, it makes the experience unpleasant for everyone. So your source is intriguing - first, the dose is usally 60mg, I believe, and it's always mentioned as Talwin/NX or pentazocine/NX to indicate the presence of naloxone. You might want to ask. At any rate, the dose is low, and since I'm not expecting you to inject it, I guess you'd care very little if it has naloxone in it.

Noah


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Re: PHENOBARBITONE 30MG (GENERICS) , TALWINS (PENTAZOC [Re: WickedNoah]
      #191709 - 10/07/04 10:16 AM

Pentazocine is a partial opiate agonist, on the same class as nalbuphine, buprenorphine, and butorphenol.

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