neonsign2003
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What is Perduretas? Is it sold in the USA and how does it compare with hydo for pain relief?
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Therion
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What is Perduretas? Is it sold in the USA and how does it compare with hydo for pain relief?
Perduretas are 50mg timed-release codeine tablets manufactured in Spain. IME, one is equal to about 5mg of hydrocodone.
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potatoboy99
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Loc: Deep North (East)
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You can chew them to defeat the time release mechanism, otherwise they are pretty slow acting, in my experience. Taste slightly yucky but you could get used to it.
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cmehere
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Here's a site I found that I think Biotran customers will find very interesting, I know I did... http://uk.geocities.com/brown_addict/contugesic.htm
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neonsign2003
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Loc: midwest
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Thank you all for the information.I intend to stick with what I now have prescriptions. hydro and klonopin.
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parg
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that thread is and has been being discussed in another thread. Nothing worse then a addict who rats out everyone they ever got anything from to justify in their own mind that it wasn't their own fualt. I mean come on did Biotran seek out this individual and entice him into buying their product??? I highly doubt it, that dude needs to grow up and if he truly wants sobriety(which I doubt it,I think he just got caught), he'll need to first be honest with himself and admit he is the one with the problem not everyone and everything around him.
Parg
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cmehere
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I totally agree, I thought it to be interesting that this idiot would put out all that info on them. I have done business with bio and you know how that guy is, I bet he crapped his pants when he first saw this site...lol
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tomcat44
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I have been dealing with biotran about a year or more and bought contugesic from the company,and bought stilnox or dalpran sleeping pills.At the moment I am taking perduretas because contugesic is very hard to find.If contugesic is available two tablets a day is more than enough for me.I am no junkie and have a lot of pain in my neck and shoulder.This guy bill landis is very clever trying to stick the knife in to biotran or trying to put people off the medication called contugesic.If I had a choice of biotran or this bill landis I would leave my trust in biotran.All ways straight as a arrow,Bill landis trys to portray biotran as some ganster operation.Biotran as never force me to buy anything and somretimes it makes me mad to see people who write storys for there own gain.
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cmehere
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I also would choose bio. I am getting the perduretas also and was wondering about the stilnox. Is it exactly like ambien? Also, did you just request a sample of them with your regular order of perduretas? Thnaks..
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dsmmcm
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Both stilnox and dalpran are indistinguishable from ambien IMHO. If anything, dalpran is better.
He won't let you order two meds unless you pay up front for one of them.
D.
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LPR
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Reged: 12/30/03
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I agree with dsmmcm... the Stilnox and Dalpran are IMHO if anything stronger than Ambien to me.
Also I have always gotten them in blister-packs with excellent expiration dates. I haven't read any feedback otherwise on this board...
Biotran provides a quality service to people who legitimately need these medications.
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timberland
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Here's a site I found that I think Biotran customers will find very interesting, I know I did... http://uk.geocities.com/brown_addict/contugesic.htm
I believe I was the one who introduced this in another thread - the reason for posting the link was really because it suggested the reason for the seasonal availability of DHC. I know it's extremely biased; cleaned-up guys, guys who got busted, or guys who feel offended by another person's very existence are likely to put spins like the one he put. I shouldn't have even posted it, because looking back at it it is a nasty piece of work.
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sasi
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Wow, did anyone actually read the whole thing? I know that I didn't. I might try to read it one night if I'm having trouble sleeping. Geez, I need the clif notes.
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rs1130
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LOL!!! Thanks Sasi,
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emtp3
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I found it a interesting read. Quite the story.
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Fighting the "DOOM Dealer"
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sunflower29
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I ordered $10 worth of Perds and $15 of Ambien, which I've never tried before (but have sporadically used the Perds), and I received 60 Ps. Is this how he usually operates, giving you more than what you paid for? In error I'd mailed him 10 Canadian dollars initially so I can see him tacking on a few pills for that. I didn't receive any Ambien, so I'm wondering if he sent me $15 worth of Ps instead? Or does he normally send you more meds than you asked for/paid for, and so on and so forth, until one of you says halt? If this is the case, he trusts his customers more than most OPs.
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diggsbakes
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He has never sent me more of less than I requested. Also, on his web site, he explicitly states that he accepts US dollars. So you might not be getting any more of anything.
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sunflower29
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He kindly accepted my apology for sending the Canadian funds, I sent him my order in US dollars, then received my shipment.
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Fiver
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Loc: Michigan
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I received five Ambien samples two weeks ago and sent five US dollars the same day, with an order form from his site requesting thirty more. I haven't heard back via email if he has sent out the shipment of 30 Ambien -- does he usually let his customers know when he sends something out, or should I just sit back and assume that they'll get here?
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JeanneLynn
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I don't believe he usually notifies via email about shipping. At least he never did in my case, it would just show up 10 -14 days later.
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dsmmcm
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You are right.
D.
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LPR
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Yes, he won't unless (perhaps- and note the use of "perhaps") on occasion if you email him with an enquiry first. Sometimes I have emailed him requesting politely if the order has been shipped (for various reasons, I needed to know), and he has sent off a quick email with the date. I suspect you would probably need to have a track record with him though.
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sunflower29
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Same goes here. No email confirmation that money's been received. I only know if eventually the delivery arrives. I do let him know by email that I've made an order, but by now I don't expect a reply.
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LilacVelvet
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Does anyone know if Codesian is quick acting?
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With all all of my love, It doesn't feel as good
As the drugs
-courtney love
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efffbeee
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yes, it is instant release.
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Zilla
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Reged: 11/12/03
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I have always ordered the Perduretas and not the Codisan from Biotran. If anyone has had both, how would you say they compare? I have felt slightly disappointed with Perduretas, they don't seem to be very strong. For instance, 2 Perduretas don't seem nearly effective as 2 of my Tylenol 4's, even if I chew the Perduretas. (Chewing them is so DISGUSTING it almost made me throw up by the way! Is there an easier way to bypass the slow release function?)
Also, this is kind of unrelated, but I finally did receive my shipment of 60 perduretas recently after sending a payment of $40 USD. I sent him $60 USD almost immediately after recieving the package because I was worried about how long I had taken to send the $40 and hoping he wasn't angry at me. So anyway, how many perduretas will I receive now? I am to expect 80? Or is it 120? I can't remember his system because it seems to have changed since I entered it!
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LilacVelvet
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yes, it is instant release.
Thank you!
He's sending me a sample as we speak..
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With all all of my love, It doesn't feel as good
As the drugs
-courtney love
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Zilla
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Reged: 11/12/03
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I have always ordered the Perduretas and not the Codisan from Biotran. If anyone has had both, how would you say they compare? I have felt slightly disappointed with Perduretas, they don't seem to be very strong. For instance, 2 Perduretas don't seem nearly effective as 2 of my Tylenol 4's, even if I chew the Perduretas. (Chewing them is so DISGUSTING it almost made me throw up by the way! Is there an easier way to bypass the slow release function?)
Also, this is kind of unrelated, but I finally did receive my shipment of 60 perduretas recently after sending a payment of $40 USD. I sent him $60 USD almost immediately after recieving the package because I was worried about how long I had taken to send the $40 and hoping he wasn't angry at me. So anyway, how many perduretas will I receive now? I am to expect 80? Or is it 120? I can't remember his system because it seems to have changed since I entered it!
Bump. Please, anyone??
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MetsFan
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Be careful with that stuff. Not legal and other issues. God Bless.
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