toe
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Reged: 10/09/02
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Loc: MidWest USA
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If I don't get very, very lucky soon I may have to go back to using an OP, in which case I'd likely want to have Talwin Nx prescribed instead of Hydro. I'd probably be delayed in receiving, because I'm sure most of the pharmacies don't carry much variety in the area of painkillers, and they would have to order it for me. But my hope is that this partial opiate agonist would be more effective for me, as my tolerance to full opiate agonists is fairly high. Also, I don't tolerate hydrocodone very well.
A big issue here is money
OP prices are already inflated beyond belief, and pentazocine/ naloxone costs a little more than hydrocodone w/apap.
Also, federally, it's a C-IV, but I have no idea what it is in FL or NC or NJ or wherever, so that could also be problematic.
Anyone, with any info, help? Please?
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Therion
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Reged: 06/14/04
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Hi toe. Several years ago I was prescribed Talwin after having a surgical procedure that is characteristically followed by a protracted and quite painful recovery period. After taking it for two days I called my doctor and asked him if this was some kind of joke! It did NOTHING for me. Even aspirin was more effective. He switched me to Lorcet and it did the trick.
So, for me, Talwin was absolutely worthless. I very rarely hear it being prescribed any more. Perhaps there were too many complaints of it being ineffective.
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prettyday
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Reged: 02/09/03
Posts: 905
Loc: Coastal Sage Scrub
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Also; there were some NASTY side effects with Talwin that I read about a long time ago, and it did not play well with others..
Let me look...
http://adultpain.nursing.uiowa.edu/MixedAge/Talwintt.htm
well, that's not it, but there is something in there about interactions....was it Wellbutrin, Valium, or what?
I just remember reading about it and the med text I read listed a lot of side effects.
I understand exactly the need to just find a better solution and the frustration dealing with the system, though. 
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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Edited by prettyday (08/15/04 09:45 PM)
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mariav
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Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 194
Loc: New York
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Yes. I use Talwin. I find it an effective pain reliver, in addition HYDRO. Helps me curb my Hydro use. Buy-meds used to sell it. Give it a try, I find it very helpful.
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MerryJ
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Reged: 05/25/04
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Loc: On a bayou in S. Florida
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Yikes!!!!! This drug was horribly abused by herion addicts back in the seventies. It can cause intense seizures if abused...just wanted you all to know that.
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Listvoer
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Reged: 01/14/04
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Loc: New America
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Yep, it was heavily abused, but that was when it was formulated as just plain Talwin. Now all you can get is Talwin NX (NX for Noloxone, an opiate partial/full antagonist (can't remember exactly)). Point being, the NX keeps it from being very abuseable because if you try to abuse it (injecting for example, as was the craze that brought on the change in formulation) the NX blocks the receptors in your brain, keeping the actual pain-killers from doing their job. Right now they're working on a very similar scheme for OxyContin because it's had about the same abuse as Talwin once did. I have no personal experience with this, but I have been around a long time & talked to enough folks who did that stuff to know this to be true...
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CATBOY2
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Reged: 05/28/04
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http://www.prescriptionamerica.com offers talwin at the cheapest i ever found.$129 60 tabs.
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Jedd
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you need a valid prescription for that site
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CATBOY2
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i ordered my firdt rx for talwin withgout a prescription.you need records to get any refills.the doc will call and do a free consult at least about a month ago when i ordered that was the way they worked.
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CATBOY2
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yup u right they changed their service.thats a shame.sorry...but will keep searching for the other sites i used in the past that were iop but would drop ship so you never dealt with customs.
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mariav
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Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 194
Loc: New York
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I tried ordering hydros from this spot. They never even called, asked for records or anything, just denied me saying it wasn't medically necessary. I have two herniated discs which were aggravted bby a car accident a year and a half ago. Some days I can hardly get out of bed! Just what di they consider medically necessary?
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CATBOY2
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WELL I HAD BROKEN MY BACK AND NECK IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND HAD SEVERAL SURGERIES AND THEY CALLED AND SENT THE MEDS.TOLD ME TO FAX RECORDS IF I WANTED A REFILL ON THEM.
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jbnugget
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Reged: 11/14/02
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Loc: Boston area
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I once tried it IV (I hate needles. This was the only time and my friend had to do it). It was not crushed pills. It was the IV stuff w/o Naloxone. For me, I wasn't thrilled. It made me disassociate somewhat (on 60mg)- an experience I find disturbing. I won't use it again unless I have to, & then it will only be oral.
To each their own,
jbnugget
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CATBOY2
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i have a few im inj. 30mg each and they work well.right at higher doeses im or iv you go to another world.the stuff is very dangerous if misused even the inj. without the nalox.
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