poppyale
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Loc: united states of america
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Just curious,Does anyone know what the difference is,or if there even is a difference?
I am just trying to learn something new today!!!!!
Can anyone help me out???? 
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johng
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Loc: great lakes
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morphine is short for morphine sulfate. The sulfate is the salt it is based in. just like naloxone HCL the drug is based in hydrochorlide. the ending such as bitartate, sulfate and hydroshrolide is just the salt form it is in. the only thing i know about the salts is that it is used by the body in the first pass to brake it into the usable form by the body.
john
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timberland
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morphine is short for morphine sulfate. The sulfate is the salt it is based in. just like naloxone HCL the drug is based in hydrochorlide. the ending such as bitartate, sulfate and hydroshrolide is just the salt form it is in. the only thing i know about the salts is that it is used by the body in the first pass to brake it into the usable form by the body.
john
Wow, I didn't actually know that. I know that cytochrome p450s use water, or at least some of them do, but others use salts? Catalytically? Or the salt form is the only form they recognize?
Anyway, without the salt, morphine has an ion with an incomplete set of electrons. This is also called morphine freebase. It's unstable and reactive. Adding the sulfate fulfills the need for electrons, the two chemicals form an ionic bond, and morphine becomes stable and nonreactive.
Chemistry guys, don't just read this in disgust if I'm wrong - please correct me!
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gage
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Loc: south central U.S.A.
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HORS
HOWDY POOPYALE, SO DID YA LEARN ANYTHING?? HERE WHILE BACK I SAW SOME AVINZAS AND EVEN POSTED ON THEM ABOUT SOMETHING?
ANYWAY I HAD TO OPEN ONE OUT OF CURIOSTIY MAINLY TO SEE IF WHOEVER TOLD ME WAS RIGHT ABOUT EM HAVEING DIFF. COLORED LITTLE TINY BBS, THEY SAID THE COLRED ONES WERE THE MORPHINE
WELL I GUESS MY FRIEND GOT RIPPED OFFCAUSE THEY GA-JILLIONS OF LITTLE TINY BBS BUT NO COLORED ONES 
I FELL FOR THE OLD BBS IN THE MEDICINE CABINET TRICK, I OPENED ONE UP AND LITTLE TINY WHITE BBS WENT EVER WHERE BUT MOSTLY IN THE CARPET,!!!
YOW I DONE A LITTLE DIGGING, BUT NOTHING LIKE THOSE PEEP WHO
REALLY DO SOME HEAVY DUTY CARPET SEARCHES ON THAT STUFF THATS GUANTEED ON THE PLASTIC PACKAGE YOU BUY IT IN TO MAKE YOU CLEAN EVERY WHITE SPECK ON YOUR CARET!  AND EVEN SMOKE OR SNORT DOGS FLEA POWDER OR WHATS EVEN WORSE IS THAT STUFF YOU SPRIKLE ON THE CARPET TO MAKE IT SMELL BETTER
EXCEPT YOU FORGOT TO VACUM AFTERWARDS!! 
SURE HOPED THAT WASNT TO CHEMICAL FOR YA TO TAKE!! LATER L
TSC
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gage
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Loc: south central U.S.A.
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P.S. KNOW IM NOT SHOUTING, CAPS JUST HELPS ME TO SEE BETTER
SO PLEASE OVERLOOK MY POST IF THERE TO LOUD OR MISSPELLED FOR YA, IM NO GENIUS AS IM SURE MOST OF YOU'VE FOUND OUT BYE NOW 
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Listvoer
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Just a helpful tip for those of us who are driven crazy by all-caps & have a hard time reading messages typed in that manner, you can make your own screen fonts appear as large as you want by selecting 'text zoom' (or something named similar, i'm on a Mac) in the 'View' menu if you're using Internet Explorer, or as in my case with Apple's Safari browser I just click 'Make Text Bigger" under the 'view' menu. I can make the text so big that I can read it from across the room without having to resort to all caps. My eyes are sensitive and all-caps messages are darn difficult to read, to say the least. And sorry to say it, but to a lot of net users, all-caps posts are often associated with people who are clueless newbies who don't know it's rude & considered shouting. Sorry to get a little off-topic, but I thought it might be a helpful tip for those of us out here with vision problems.. enlarging font-size is easy and useful and dosn't affect other folks' viewing of it in a normal size/way.
Just my 2¢... I fully understand if you choose to ignore it.. the net still has the illusion of freedom of choice
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