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Daeshay76
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i finally got in with my PCP today after being in so much pain over the weekend and he did some blood work on me and came back in the room a hour later and stated that his best guess is that I have Fibro because of the pain i have described to him and the areasof where i have pain...so he wris me several scripts..Zanaflex,T'3s,OC's,ultram,and Doxepin 50mg and it states its for the firbo on his directions. So i am wondering has anyone used this medication for Fibro and does it work? the packet insert for the meds states its a tricyclic antidepressant to treat depression but it may also be used to trat other conditions determined by your doctor. if any one has any knowledge of this medication please inform me...thanks so much!
Edited by Daeshay76 (08/11/04 12:24 PM)
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pickles
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Loc: Indiana
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Hello Daeshay,
I was prescribed Doxepin 25mg last month for a very serious case of the shingles.I believe it was the 2nd or 3rd day that this medication reached noticeable strength. It definately helped in relieving my stress and totally 86ing my depression.Well, i hope this med works for you,if i have time (i'm currently at work)i'll do some in-depth research on this med and report back with my findings.
take care and get well,
Jason(a.k.a Pickles)
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JBarns
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Loc: Nebraska
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Daeshay76!!!
Very very important about this medication!!!!
Before I was diagnosed, they put me on this medication, and I have to say it helped, but coming off of it was the worst!!!
Story:
I was having trouble sleeping after having my son, and when I went in to my Doc, I told him that since the birth of my son, I was having this terrible pain in my knees, and I wasn't able to sleep at night because of it. So of course, since I just had a baby, they said it was post pardum depression, and put me on Doxepin.
They started me on 10mg doses, which I was supposed to take once a night before bed.
Then the next week, I was to take 20mg. then the next week increase to 30, until I got all the way up to 100mg.s per night.
Well, the script was written in the beginning, for the 10mgs per night, so when I ran out, and went to get it refilled, the pharmacy wouldn't refill it, cause it was too early, and I told them that the Doc told me to increase my dose, but he didnt' write it on the script that way.
So, I thought, no biggie, and went home.
Well, the next night was hell, I had been on this med for over 3 months by now, and was dependant on it for sure.
I became very sick to my stomach, and could not sleep at all!!!! It was horrible!!
I called my Doc, and he re-called in a new script for it, and told the pharmacist to fill it, so they did, and as soon as I took the med, I got better.
It's one of those kinds of meds that you have to slowly taper off of it. And I was up to 100 mg. a day, and I had to decrease it slowly, by 10mgs per week, the same way I started it.
Doxepin was described to me this way:
When you go to sleep at night, your body goes into different modes of sleep, I think they said like 5 stages, at stage 1 is when you are slowly drifting to sleep, and then you go to your 5th stage when you are totally out of it, well, after having my son, I was never reaching my 5th stage, I was only getting to the 2nd or 3rd at night, so I was deprived of sleep for along time.
The doxepin put me into those stages to get the sleep I needed, cause they thought I was having Postpardum depression, and that was causing my knee pain, which was keeping me from sleeping, (go figure.... that's the way Doctors think sometimes, and it was the wrong diagnoses all along, so I didn't really need to be on the med, but it did help me sleep again!)
Anyway, after being on the med, and becoming dependant on it, I was getting the sleep I needed, and decided to come off of it, after having that situation when I ran out, and slowly decreased my dose until I was down to the 10 mgs again per night, and then went to a dose every other day, until I was to every 4 days, that's when I stopped taking that med.
Make sure you do some good research on it. You will find all the good and the bad with this med.
After taking it for awhile, and you decide to come off of it, ask for the 10mgs, so you can slowly wean yourself off.
oh yeah, DON'T DRINK WHILE TAKING IT!!!! I learned that the hard way!
If he's diagnose you with Fibro, this meds might actually help you, as Fibro patients have a hard time sleeping, and this meds will help you sleep. And once your body gets used to it, you won't feel the "groggy" parts during the day.
Just be very careful when you stop this med, you get real sick to your stomach, headaches, and can't sleep at all!!!!
Hope this helps you.
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timberland
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Yikes! Well, if anyone wants it for short-term stress-relief/depression, rxglobalservice.com sells 100 10mg pills for $12.99
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cleo911
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i finally got in with my PCP today after being in so much pain over the weekend and he did some blood work on me and came back in the room a hour later and stated that his best guess is that I have Fibro because of the pain i have described to him and the areasof where i have pain...so he wris me several scripts..Zanaflex,T'3s,OC's,ultram,and Doxepin 50mg and it states its for the firbo on his directions. So i am wondering has anyone used this medication for Fibro and does it work? the packet insert for the meds states its a tricyclic antidepressant to treat depression but it may also be used to trat other conditions determined by your doctor. if any one has any knowledge of this medication please inform me...thanks so much!
Yes, I don't understand. Doxepin is prescribed for psychoneurosis with depression and anxiety. I have found nothing indicating that it is ever prescribed for pain
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Daeshay76
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thanks to all of you that have responded to my post...i havent yet began to start taking this med yet even tho i maybe sleep 3 or if i am lucky 4 hours a night..i guess i will start by taking it at bedtime to see if that helps because my arms is what hurts the worse and thats what keeps me up i find myself getting up at all hours taking a pain pill which helps really none at all it seems...i have a appointment tomorrow with a orthopedic so maybe they will help or send me somewhere to where they can help with the pain i am trying not to have to take pills for the rest of my life but if that is what i have to do then its what i gotta do to be in a little less pain. i have done some looking around on the internet about fibro and theres not much that helps beside meds and PT so i am just at a loss with this because it is all so new to me (the fibro) but not the pain that i have for years (going on 5 years now) so actually i think i have had the fibro for that long, thanks again to you all!! hope your weekend is going better than mine!
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Beetlenut
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Quote:
...Doxepin 50mg and it states its for the firbo on his directions. So i am wondering has anyone used this medication for Fibro and does it work? the packet insert for the meds states its a tricyclic antidepressant to treat depression but it may also be used to trat other conditions determined by your doctor. if any one has any knowledge of this medication please inform me...
Hi Dae:
I was put on doxepin way back in the 80's for severe depression. I think I took it for about two years & I was on a HIGH dosage. I was severely depressed and in retrospect, I KNOW it was postpartum.
Anyway, what I remember was that it was EXTREMELY sedating. I had a VERY difficult time waking up in the mornings. I also gained a lot of weight (about 30 lbs) while I was on it.
It was SO sedating that on my days off & when my husband and the kids were gone, I could (and WOULD) sleep until 5:00 at night (after going to bed at 9:00 the night before). Something's WRONG with that picture. I did discover that if I took it BEFORE DINNER intead of bedtime, that I was not so sleepy the next day.
It didn't really help my depression, either! IMO, Doxepin seems like overkill for insomnia-have you ever tried taking two Benadryls (50 mg) for insomnia? It is an OTC allergy medicine that just knocks me out when I have insomnia. Cheap, non-addicitive, no side effects except maybe a dry mouth. Benadryl (Diphenhydramine) is the active ingredient in Tylenol PM.
Let us know how you feel on it & take care...
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dmajkc
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Doxepin is in the tricyclic antidepressant category. Studies in the late 1980's found it effective for neurogenic pain. It is a non addicting medication that is very sedating ( almost identical to Elavil).
The problem I found with this type of medication, is that when you stop taking it, you really feel terrible.
Secondly, it does increase your appetite..especially for sweets.
The medication itself is pretty safe especially at a low dose. Take it at bedtime..Within a few weeks, your body gets used to it and you wont feel as groggy during the day. Hope that helps
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parg
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I just got back from my doc and he has prescribed me Elavil for Anxiety with insonmia, I wanted Xanax but I just as well might of asked him for a million dollars. After reading up on this medicine if I can't fall asleep I might take it but other then that no friggin way. I hate it when they peddle off some BS drug that they really know what do for your condition because there to scared that some DEA agent is going to track them down.
Garp
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IMSUSCOT1
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Trycyclic antidepressants are often prescribed as a part of a pain management program, my personal opinion after getting off elavil (150mg's, a really high dose) is that I'm better off without it. My current PM doc's philosophy is that if you just treat the pain adequately, the depression will go away and I'm living proof that that's true. When I first started seeing him I was literally suicidal, but after a month with him, I kicked the anti-depressants and haven't needed them since. But you've gotta look hard to find a PM doc that WILL treat pain completely, his philosophy is a pain score of zero on a 1-10 scale is the target and your not successfully treating a patient till you get him there, at least most of the time. He's great. But, some docs use trycyclics in conjunction with other meds or modalities and if it works hey, whose gonna complain?
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