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poppyale
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My friend has taken xanax off and on for about 6 years now,but about the last 2-3 months he has been takin them pretty heavily,and his memory is shot!!!!!!,He tld me that he would be having a conversation w/someone and in the middle of the conversation totally forget what he was talking about.He told me and some of our other friends that he wants to cut back,and then eventually quit.I was just curious if anyone could give us some info about weening off benzo's.I know that it is dangerous,and that it can make you have seizures.I would rather not say how many he takes because he might get mad at me!!!Ya know what i mean!!!!But if anyone has any good info about weening of benzo's,please helpmy buddy out,he just don't even act like the same person anymore!!!!!
Thanks in advance
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Listvoer
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Oh yeah, classic xanax memory loss.. Just about everyone i've known who has gotten 'carried away' with their dosages in the past has had memory problems. Including, but by no means a complete list, forgetting buying ALL KINDS of stuff I couldn't afford, starting a sentence and forgetting 'mid-stream' what in the world I was saying (or walking into a room to do *something* then totally forgetting why you got up), bumping into things, slurring speech, eyes half closed, can't remember what I ate for breakfast much less what I did after work yesterday, and a bazillion other odd behaviors that would never actually be done if not for the xaxax in the system. I don't think xanax (or other benzos although xanax seems to be the worst IME) makes you do anything that you don't already have in your head, but it's darn good at telling you "go ahead! do it! buy it! Say it! (gawd some of the things i've said/done while taking too much xanax!).
I think, barring the dangerous withdrawals, one of the worst side-effects of benzos and xanax in particular is that they make you feel like you're completely in control and are as smooth and 'with-it' as possible, all the while everyone else is whispering "what in the world is he/she on? " It's great at encouraging delusions of grandeur.....
Here's some very informative sites on quitting benzos. If you learn nothing else, just remember that you really need to taper down the dose slowly because cold-turkey can certainly cause physical seizures or worse.
www.benzoliberty.com/
www.benzo.org.uk/
And here's a weird product that I *just now* stumbled across.. might be worth investigating if it does actually make benzo w/d easier.. http://www.benzorelief.com/ .. it may be total bunk and i'll be laughing at the stuff after I read about it in a min, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
Good luck with your friend, it's a long and slow road when a person has gotten to that point in benzo abuse, but if done slowly and properly it can be mostly painless and quite safe to quit. Just dont get in a hurry, and don't get too frustrated if/when he temp. relapses and takes a few extra. These things affect almost every part of the brain so after some time of usage your brain really gets used to having it around and it kicks like a mule when it discovers that you decided to give up the stuff.
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poppyale
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HI,I would just like to say thank you for all of the info!!!!! I am sure some of the sites you recomended will help him out!!!!
THANKS AGAIN POPPYALE 
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I just read Listovers post to yours and I can relate. I was prescribed xanax during my divorce. I was having panic attacks. Severe panic attacks to the point of fainting. Anyway, they helped me get through that time of my life. After taking them for four years I got to the point of hating them. So I stopped. I checked myself into a hospital because the doseage I had been taking you can't just stop or you could go into seizures. Tell your friend he is welcome to pm me and you are too. There is nothing embarassing about it. If you want to stop, stop. Tell your friend it is not a med to just abruptly stop taking. I had to wear patches and take meds for about a week before it was all said and done. And then during week number three if you have taken it long enough it can be a tough one too. I takes about four weeks to get it out of your system. And you don't sleep at all the first couple of weeks. It's worth it though. I have had tough times since I stopped taking them. My father died of lung cancer and that was a tough time. I took them during that time and then stopped after two months. I stopped on my own. It's okay to wean yourself if you haven't taken it more than a couple of months IMHO. Anyway, good luck to your friend. Curiousdee
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All I can say about xanax is that it is bad,bad,bad. I had a doctor that prescribed me 5 mgs a day along with Klonipin. It was THE MOST PAINFUL WITHDRAWLS that I have ever gone through. My advice is to stay away because before you know it your body becomes physically dependent on them. They are in my opinion more addictive than hydro. They are ok to take for short amounts of time, but to get off of them, you have to wean off slowly. 
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poppyale..
Yep!! I had a problem with memory loss too when I was on this drug. I was taking .5mg four times a day. You can imagine that I also drive for a living which means I had many instances of not knowing where I was ans also going by many stops. It was very imbarrassing to say the least. I eventually stopped taking this medication altogether. I now use Valium which does not affect my memory but has longer lasting side effects.. I guess there is no perfect tranquilizer. YOu have to find what works best for you and what the tradeoff will be. For me, it's next-day benzo hangover. But at least I have a better memory now.
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That's interesting, I didn't know valium doesn't effect the memory as much as xanax. I've never taken xanax, only ativan a few times and clonazepam for a year and a half now. My dose started to get quite high and I managed to wean myself down to 2 .5mg a day, but there is that risk of experiencing tolerance and having to raise the dose or withdraw again. It's a drug I have much respect for because the withdrawal I went through to lower my dose was awfully debilitating.
At a higher dose I did notice memory problems as well.
I wonder if I might be better to switch to valium?
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GREAT topic.
I used to take benzo's, specifically xanax until I met a wonderful doc that got me switched over to effexor xr. I took that drug for about a year and felt one MILLION times better than when taking the xanax and my panic attacks totally disappeared.
I have since stopped taking the effexor XR and my panic attacks ARE CURED!!! WOHOOO!!!!! This is coming from someone that had suffered from panic attacks for 7 years.
I find it hard to believe that some of the OP's dispense these benzo's like candy. A friend of mine the other day ordered from Norco Worldwide 120 of the 2 mg xanax. I asked my buddy if he was CRAZY???!!!! I told him that (a) NWW was acting unethically to prescribe you that many xanax because in those dosages it can be VERY DANGEROUS (not to mention nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get off; but I guess that is what there goal is anyways  ) (b) that he is playing with fire because the addiction potential is so high.
You wonder how some of these OP's get away with doing such unethical and dangerous things...........
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Anyone identify with this side effect?
Got a buddy of mine who is stressed out from everything and started taking about 2mg a day of xanax. He's been on them before but this is the most steady he has ever taken them. I tried to tell him a story of me "almost" hooking up with this cute girl and he started this arguement out of nowhere. I was trying to get the girl(underage) into a club and he agrued that it was impossible for me to get her in. Argued so much, I never finished the conversation, he was like a maniac about it. Keep up the arguement even when he called me later from work. Recently, he asked me for a favor and I couldn't come thru and he went thru the roof. Big blow up arguement and now we are never talking again. I've known the guy for 18 years and NONE of this would have ever happened if he wasn't on the xanax.
Remember back in the '80's xanax, paxil and especially prozac were responsible for violent fits from people, some leading to murder?? Quite odd that a "tranquilizer" like drug could have such an effect. What happens is, like my friend, when you're on it, you're sedate. In between when you're off it, you're nuts. Anyone experience this?
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What happens is, like my friend, when you're on it, you're sedate. In between when you're off it, you're nuts. Anyone experience this?
Absolutely!  If I go too long without a benzo dose (especially xanax) I find that I become extremely agitated very easily Stopping this effect is one of the reasons I rotate between xanax and klonopin. Alternating between long-lasting and short-lasting helps.
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OH MY GOSH!!! You guys, this thread could not have come at a better time for me. I am not going to get into the whole entire story here, but I do have to say that something very horrible happened to me last month while on xanax.
I have used xanax on and off for awhile now (to help me sleep because i have a lot of back pain and even with the pretty decent amount of oxycontin I am not able to get any rest because the pain keeps me up)
Well I do know that I have had bizzare experiences with the xanax and I am not even taking any more than was prescribed. I am either allergic to it or thecombination of it w/my oxycontin does something weired.
What did happen to me last month is tuly regresttable and horrifying. I have told many stories on here but this one is the worst, however I need help.
What happened was I was on the xanax and I can not even remember what made me want to go to the store but it was 4th of July and my husband and I were home alone watching the fireworks at the park down the block. My husband must of knew I had taken the xanax cause it tis the only medication that literally makes me sorta crazy. He said I was irrational and he tried to get me not to get in the car but I left anyway. We have discussed xanax in the past and I told him I knew it made me psycho and if I ever used it again for sleep that I would inform him first. You see if I take it and go straight to bed then I am fine, but if I take it with the intention of going to bed, without actually going to bed, than GOD only knows what things I get myself into, seriously. But this time I had not told my husband because I was feeling a bit of anxiety about a doctors appt coming up and was taking the xanax for the anxiety, not to go to sleep. Mistake number one.
OK, so as I was saying, I decided on one of the busiest nights of the year to srive to the store while I was on xanax. I do not remember any of it, well bits and pieces, but the whole night ended up being 5 hours long and I really do not recall much of it.
So I am driving and I guess I doze off and hit the curb. Because there are so many people and police out that night someone reports seeing that happen. I am still clueless driving along, not knowing that the police were now looking for my car. Then, I get to the entrance of the park (on the way to the store) and all of these cars were apparently piling out. I guess it was a red light and I had slowed down but started to go too soon and hit the car in front of me. The rest is too long and too humiliating to go into but I will say that I was way out of it. I have no recolection of talking to the police, going to the hospital or even sitting in the car with my parents as they drove me home. It was not until the next day that I found out the horror of my wrath.
They tested me for alchohol and of course that was 0.00, but they also took my blood. I am supposed to go to court for this in December (so long away because they apparently had to send my blood to a special lab as they did not have the capabilities in their lab).
I got a transcript of the officers report and it is not pretty. After I hit the car in front of me, the cop came over and knocked on my window, and this is just awful but.....I guess I had fallen asleep. I could not really talk coherently.
I know this makes me look like some awful moster as I always despised drunk drivers, and I will never forgive myself, but I am also having to deal with what is going to happen to me now. My dad is a lawyer, but not a criminal lawyer. The ticket I got said I was arrested, but I never went to the police station. It also says OMVWI, but they are waiting to get my blood back before they finalize it.
Unfortunately they just passed this new law in my city that makes driving while on drugs the same as driving while intoxicated. But luckily every med I was on was prescribed to me by my local doctor. None of them were from an OP. But still, I was in no condition to drive and I can only imagine what damage I could have caused.
So I am sure you can imagine my surprise when I read this posting. I know for a fact that it was the xanax because I had taken my regular dose of meds that day (nothing more nothing less than ususal, except I did take soma that morning for my back pain, it helps with the spasms.) But I take these drugs everyday for my chronic pain and never black out or fall asleep or ANYTHING near what I did that night.
I wish I never took that xanax and I will forever wish that, but I did and now I have to own up to it and deal with it. I just want to know if anyone has any info about driving while on prescription medications, whether or not they are narcotics, schedule II or Schedule III meds, or just regular prescriptions that have a sticker on them that mention not to operate heavy machinery while taking.
Thanks for letting me share this with you and please do not think any less of me for this, I made a huge mistake, even though I can not remember any of it.
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I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you! Just be thankful nobody was injured. It could have been far, far worse, although I know it's hard to feel consoled when you've got this hanging over your head.
I too had a couple of close calls many years ago while taking clonazepam. It scared the sh** out of me, and now I don't drive while taking it.
I hope it works out for you, and I know you feel bad about it all. You didn't intend to harm anyone, and you've learned something important, so you won't ever do it again at least.
Sorry I can't offer any legal advice, I just wanted to say that I don't think you're a bad person at all, and I hope you can forgive yourself for this mistake. Again, at least you didn't injure yourself or anyone else, so it could have been a lot worse.
Take care, and try not to beat yourself up over this. Everyone makes mistakes, and this was out of character for you, so you'll probably be much more careful in the future.
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Flea,
Wow, you just took me back to about 3 years ago, when I had something similar happen to me.
I was dating this guy who worked in a nursing home, and I'm really not proud to say this, but this scumbag used to steal the old people's meds if they were any kind of tranquilizer/benzo/sedative type of drugs.
I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder about a year before that, so I was on 0.5 mg Xanax for it. The doctor I was seeing at the time had a bad habit of either cutting me off completely, or switching me to other meds that just did not effing work!
I went from Zoloft which left me with no personality or emotions at all, to Paxil (which made me suicidal and is another whole story I'm not gonna get into here) to Klonopin, which turned me into a compulsive shopper, then back to Xanax to NOTHING. She completely cut me off.
She eventually started prescribing it to me again about a year ago, but then I lost my medical insurance (a whole other story entirely). Found out later that she was coming under heat because she was also a "diet doctor" who prescribed people "Phen-Phen" a few years back and was up to her eyeballs in investigations/lawsuits etc. So that's why she was playing "spin the wheel" with my meds. But the first time she cut me off, I was out of my flipping mind!
God, I was so mad, and regretted ever taking Xanax because I was a lunatic after I got cut off. I'm not gonna lie, this was around the time I discovered OP's, but I was stupid back then and lost a lot of money on IOP's that were shady.
Getting back to the story, though, this guy I was seeing had stolen some 10 mg Ambien from one of the patients at the nursing home and I wound up doing something I deeply regretted later. Not just because I took pills I knew were stolen off some poor old person, but because I did the same thing you did, only my situation didn't turn out quite as badly, thank God. I drove home from this guy's house after taking one of them, thinking they were weak at first and the next thing I knew, it was the next day.
I woke up with that "Oh, God, what did I do last night??" feeling, and then later in the day, I went out to my car to discover that the passenger side mirror was broken and hanging on by a few wires. I was like "WTF??" Then, guilt sets in, because I'm someone who really gets heated by drunk drivers, and had never driven drunk before.
I found out later that, apparently, I called one of my friends at 4:00 in the morning asking him if he had any duct tape because I sideswiped a parked car and broke my mirror off. I was relieved when I found out that I hadn't killed or hurt anyone, but the scariest part about it is that I still to this day do not remember any of this happening. The last thing I remembered was leaving my ex-boyfriend's and then waking up the next day. And I was so screwed up that I actually thought that duct tape was going to fix my car, and I woke up my friend to ask him for it at 4:00 in the morning?? Whoa, I guess Ambien wasn't so "weak" afterall...
People laugh when I tell them this story, but it's something that I've always felt guilty about, because for Pete's sake, I could have killed somebody or myself that night!! The part about the duct tape is about the only thing I can muster a chuckle about, the rest of it is something that I try not to think about.
As for Xanax, for some reason, it just works for me. Withdrawal sucks, I'm not going to deny that. But I take it responsibly, for the most part, and the only time I get moody is when I don't have any. I've managed to wean myself down a bit, for a little while I was taking 2mgs a day, but now I'm taking 1mg a day, and I split the doses up. I don't know if I'd be capable of going on a rampage like poppyale's friend did, but I definitely do get on edge when I'm out.
Sorry to hear about your ordeal, and I hope everything works out for you with the court date. You all gave me some food for thought though about benzo's and the withdrawal symptoms.
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Yikes, that Ambien is powerful stuff! I'm ordering it for the first time from Biotran. I thought I could use it as a day-time benzo if I just take a tiny portion of a pill, but maybe it's still too strong for that? Also, the memory loss sounds much worse than the other benzos.
I've never taken xanax, but I've heard it's less sedating than valium and clonazepam (rivotril). Is this true? That's one of the frustrations I have with clonazepam. It gets rid of the anxiety but sometimes I lose all motivation, or just feel very lethargic. Do you think xanax is less sedating?
Thanks to anyone who responds.
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All I can tell you is that different benzo's work on different people. Xanax seems to be the only one that effectively works for my anxiety. I usually can only take them at night, because if I were to take them during the day it would definitely interfere with my ability to drive and my work performance.
In my experience with Valium, they seem like they kick in a lot faster, but the grogginess stays with me too long, and it doesn't prevent me from feeling anxious during the day the way Xanax does.
If I take a split dose of Xanax at night, half one hour before bedtime and the other half right before, I'm as calm as a cucumber the next day and rarely ever experience an attack in between doses. It keeps my anxiety "under control," which is why I say it's the most effective med for me. I don't wake up feeling like I'm in a haze the next day, which is also a plus.
I was given Ativan in the ER once, and I didn't like how that made me feel. I wasn't anxious anymore, but I was feeling weird side effects from it, sadness, crying jags, it just more or less made me feel "sedated" and didn't do much to control the anxiety I was feeling at the time.
Klonopin was a disaster for me. It did nothing for my anxiety, just made me feel doped up, and for some reason, I had impulse control problems when I was on that med. If it was on eBay, it's sitting in my house somewhere. A friend of mine in the medical field said that she heard similar complaints from people who were taking it, she even had one patient who became a kleptomaniac while she was on it. Talk about weird side effects.
Ambien...just not a good idea at all during the day!! I've only taken it a few times, but the few times that I did, I experienced total blackouts & hallucinations. It's almost as if your mind is asleep, but your physical body is still awake. It's more an insomnia med than an anti-anxiety, but part of my anxiety includes insomnia. I used to wake up in the middle of the night having panic attacks that would linger on into the next day. In the absence of Xanax, I used Ambien as a last resort, but I have never had a good experience on that med. Especially the sideswiping a car incident.
But like I said, different medications work different on different people. And you have to go through a lot of trial and error in order to find the right medication for whatever your're being treated for.
It just frustrates the he double hockey sticks out of me that Doctors are so quick to push Paxil, Zoloft and Lexapro off to their patients and are so reluctant to prescribe benzo's anymore. Out of the 3, I had the least horrific side effects from Lexapro, as a matter of fact, IMO, it didn't do a darn thing. But Zoloft was like something out of the "Stepford Wives" for me. A parade could have walked into the room with George W. sitting on top of an Elephant and I would literally have had no reaction to it whatsoever. On Paxil, I wrote a 3 page suicide note that I don't even remember writing, when I wasn't considered suicidal before it was prescribed to me. I also tried Wellbutrin, which also made me a zombie. And the thing of it is, no matter how bad they say the withdrawal symptoms of coming off of a benzo is, I think it's a little bit shady that the makers of Paxil and Zoloft claim that there are no side effects or withdrawal symptoms when you come off of them, yet it seems like every other day I read something in the newspaper about people committing murder/suicides after they stop taking them. We just had a student here at Penn State U hang herself by a shower curtain after she stopped taking Paxil.
I'm not trying to say that they don't work in general, just that they don't work for some people. And they really should do some more research into these drugs before they start distributing them like candy to anyone who is experiencing anxiety symptoms. Just my take on it.
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Excellent post, Eeyore. I've had really disturbing experiences on antidepressants as well, all prescribed to treat my anxiety disorder.
Did you know now the makers are warning people to taper off the ADs? They don't call the experience withdrawal, they give it their own special term, calling it "discontinuation syndrome." No, you're not suffering from withdrawal, you're suffering from discontinuation. Wha??? It's so cynical, it just boggles my mind. Call it what you want, it feels the same way no matter what label you give it. We've all been guinea pigs on these ADs, and it wouldn't have been so bad if they were actually effective, but it ticks me off that I spent all that money on meds that were not only ineffective but turned me into a zombie, doing things entirely out of character, and wasting a couple of years of my life in a haze.
I still feel like myself on clonazepam, just me without debilitating panic, and illogical anxiety. I don't know who the hell I was on antidepressants!
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Well, everyone's body chemistry is different so meds affect some people differently than others, but IMO and IME xanax is going to make you sleepy until you have enough of a tolerance that the sleepiness aspect fades away. That's generally true of all benzos, or at least all that i've tried over the years. The biggest difference I can think of at the moment is that the xanax may stay in your system a little longer than the ambien so you may wake up with a bit of a benzo hangover... Actually, for me Ambien doesn't do much at all but 1 or 2 mg of Xanax will have me asleep sooner or later unless I keep myself physically active. Let me lie down or kick back in the recliner and forget about it, i'll be snoozing within 30 minutes. Maybe you should try Sonata (sp?) as I found it to be even more weak than Ambien.
Good luck and good health!
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Amen to that!! AD's almost seem to me like mind control, no kidding around. It is perfectly human to experience emotions, yet these drugs are made specifically to remove them completely, it seems.
When something sad happens, isn't it normal to feel sad? If someone is making you angry, aren't you supposed to feel it? Depression is one thing, if you're depressed, then perhaps an Antidepressant is what you need. But if you're dealing with every day emotions, why in the world would you need to take an AD unless you just didn't care enough to feel one way or the other about anything?
If I were a paranoid person/conspiracy theorist, I would almost swear that it's all some sort of government plot meant to make us all complacent enough to go along with whatever the powers that be are trying to get away with. But I'm not going to get too carried away here.
As it is, I have several family members in the health care field, and several friends in the field as well. They all pretty much agree with me on the fact that if someone comes into the doctor's office saying that they're feeling stressed out, moody, irritable, depressed or have had some recent traumatic event happen to them, they leave with a bag full of samples and a prescription for whatever the "latest" AD medication that is being pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. These doctors are getting paid to push these meds, and getting free samples in bulk from these companies. Somewhere along the way, Anxiety and Panic disorders got lumped in with depression. As if they were remotely the same thing! It's all one big misconception.
I was by no means "depressed" when I was diagnosed with Anxiety disorder. I had no intentions of taking my life. What I wanted was to take my life back!! I eventually found out through therapy what the root cause of my anxiety is, but that's another thing that seems to have been phased out in all of this Antidepressant prescription nonsense.
Doesn't it seem weird that Dr. Paxil doesn't even give a rat's behind about why you're supposedly depressed? He's just handing out prescriptions and expecting you to deal with it on your own. You might get the occasional "referral" to a therapist, but is he/she making sure you follow through? It's a sad state of affairs, and it doesn't look like it's going to get better anytime soon.
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Thanks for letting me share this with you and please do not think any less of me for this, I made a huge mistake, even though I can not remember any of it.
Thank you Flea for sharing your story....at least from the sounds of it, no one was hurt..count your lucky stars....i know i drive sometimes when i know i shouldn't and i NEVER drink alcohol....scary! I will have second thoughts now when I get behind the wheel and think about what is in my system....
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Sunflower, I have been out of town so I haven't responded to your email but I will. I wanted to post something about the Ambien. It is a sleeping pill. Take it a few minutes before you want to go to sleep and then get in bed. Ambien doesn't just knock you out. It just mellows you out enough that when you are ready to sleep it will allow you to do just that, sleep. When I have used it I got a great night of rest and I didn't have that hangover feeling the next day. I felt refreshed. I have taken Soma in the past. I have a girlfriend that is a RN and she says they call them
"Coma's" at work. I know meds effect people differently but xanax and soma mixutre are lethal. The bultalbital knocks me out. I think I must be allergic to it. Also, the butalbital is the drug that makes that ghb drug so effective in putting people to sleep. Hence, the date rape drug. Anyway, I can't remember the persons screen name that had the bad experience on the 4th (hence the topic of this thread) lol! But, don't beat yourself up about it. Mistakes are what we learn from. We've all done things we regret. Or I should say I have. Keep your chin up and move on.
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I too had terrible expierences on xanax. Of course I let the xanax take control of me. I just found it easier to pop a xanax and feel happy and not care than to deal with life as it came. Went through just about everything mentioned here and then some. Don't feel bad! Others out there have gone through this too. You are not a bad person. It took me a while to come to grips with this also, but you were not in your right mind. Needless to say, I stay away from the xanax. I've found valium works nicely for me. Good luck with all of this and God bless you.
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I have taken Soma in the past. I have a girlfriend that is a RN and she says they call them
"Coma's" at work.
LOL, that's what everyone I know in the medical field calls them, too. My one sister's a nurse, and my other 2 sisters work in a doctor's office and they often refer to them as "Coma's". Never tried them, but I heard they're pretty wicked.
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Listvoer
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I have taken Soma in the past. I have a girlfriend that is a RN and she says they call them "Coma's" at work. I know meds effect people differently but xanax and soma mixutre are lethal. The bultalbital knocks me out. I think I must be allergic to it. Also, the butalbital is the drug that makes that ghb drug so effective in putting people to sleep. Hence, the date rape drug
Curiousdee
I think you're confusing Soma with Fioricet/Fiorinal because Soma is carisprodial (sp?) and does not contain butalbital. This I know because I was once prescribed fioricet / generic butalbital for headaches.
A benzo and soma aren't actually lethal in standard doses, of this i'm sure because years ago my doc had me on Valium for stress and muscle relaxation and also Soma for much the same but also for tension headaches. It worked quie well. Soma hits some people rather strongly but for many of us it's a minor drug at best and not really effective at doing what it's supposed to do. "Comas" In years gone by i've heard of them referred to as stumble biscuits by people who found that it affected them strongly and liked it a bit too much. For me Soma is pretty ineffective but sometimes useful for those tension headaches where it feels like someone is sticking an ice-pick thru your eye (yuck, sorry) and it penetrates thru to a TIGHT knot of muscles at the base of my skull. 2 or 3 soma will usually relax that enough that I can get some relief. I hope you don't take this as me being harsh, I don't intend that at all, I just want to clarify to folks who may be currently using both soma and a benzo that the're not exactly 'lethal'.
Have a nice day......
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