4Now
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Reged: 07/24/02
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Loc: USA
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I ordered Lortab 10/500 generic watsons (blue 540's)...Seems like they forgot the hydro. Nope, I'm not building up resistance. I have the exact same Lortab from 2002 and they work just fine...I'll have to switch to mallies  (sorry but I refuse to tell which OP they came from, not their fault IMO} Peace 4now...
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JBarns
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Reged: 04/24/04
Posts: 63
Loc: Nebraska
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I have to comment here......
I have had the same problem myself.
I ordered the same med, lortab 10/500, and it also seemed to me that they forgot the hydro as well!!! At first I thought maybe it was tolerance.
Then when I got my next refill, it was so much more different, MUCH DIFFERENT!!
The first script, I could take 3 of them with no effect. And now with this script, only take 1 and it worked fine.
I will bet 1000 that it was from the same OP
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Pocahontas
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Reged: 01/28/03
Posts: 296
Loc: North
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This same exact thing happened to me last summer. I received my usual Watson 10/325's but I swear it was just candy. But only ONE weak refill out of about 60 is pretty good, I think...can't complain...
Take Care and Be Well.
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summit
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Reged: 07/16/04
Posts: 75
Loc: twin peaks
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Many medicines will lose their effacy if stored at more than +25C degrees, or under -10C.
Mostly antibiotics....but shipments of hydro in summer heat and improper storage regiment can dilute.
I do think you should tell us what OP you used, so we can all be on notice.
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JeanneLynn
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Reged: 05/16/04
Posts: 143
Loc: The Bible Belt
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I had a batch of Blue 540 Watsons several months ago that had absolutely no potency either. Even worse, I felt like throwing up whenever I took them. Several times, I became very sick from them. I'm not sure if they were a bad batch, counterfeit, or if they had lost potency and had chemical changes from being stored improperly. I wonder if these blue watsons were all from the same OP. I'm so glad I'm with a regular records OP now. I haven't had a problem since.
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Tred
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Reged: 10/18/03
Posts: 267
Loc: USA
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The same thing happened to me with the blue watsons. This was a lo time ago when I was prescribed them, but they had little to no effect and left me dizzy and nauseated. As soon as I told the doctor and switched back to the 10/325's, everything was fine. There has to be a reason for this as I knew it wasn't just me!
Tred
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littleone
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Reged: 02/19/04
Posts: 55
Loc: mi
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Where are the weak meds from?
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flippie
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Reged: 06/13/04
Posts: 134
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So far a few large-scale counterfeiting operations have been indicted in other countries, but no specific OP has really been accused of selling "tainted" pills.
There is a thread about rxgooddeals selling dilluted pills, but the pills being discussed cannot be easily counterfeited, so if they were in fact fake, the fault is not the OP it is the supplier or manufacturer.
Even the FDA will tell you that when you start messing with weird foreign generic brand names, you are likely to see a wide distinction in effacy. Remember, if you search around on the web, it isn't difficult to find diazapam (Valium) being sold by the kilo of raw powder, so if you had the money to invest in a press, you could open up shop.
This has happened with Liptor and Viagra as far as I know, and several other medicines that are distributed as liquids. Again though, no specific OP is being accused of this, nor is it likely that they would be involved. The large-scale they move can be manufactured more effectively by a company set up to do just that.
Of course I suppose that the possibility of collusion between an OP and a manufacturer could result in the weaker drugs - as obvious as that is, it didn't occur to me until just now. It would be one hell of a conspiracy, but who knows what regulations exist in bumblow egypt or how easily bribed their version of the FDA is...
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4Now
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Reged: 07/24/02
Posts: 139
Loc: USA
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Since they refuse to replace or send something that works, beware it's Ephy!
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Pickledoo
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Reged: 09/20/02
Posts: 452
Loc: New England
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Oh my!
A few months ago I also had a batch that made me sick! They were'nt from EPHY though. I thought, at first, that I had some sort of stomach bug but one day I was too sick to take my meds and by the end of the day my stomach problems were gone. I thought "ok...24 hour stomach bug". The next morning, however, after my morning dose, BAM! Right back in bed with a bucket. (sorry for the gross analogy)
I though it was all in my head! No way that could be 'cause there's really no room with all those voices......
Pickledoo
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4Now
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Reged: 07/24/02
Posts: 139
Loc: USA
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Unfortunately we have to wait till 2007 before they start regulating the storage, and quality of meds. Until then, you don't know what your getting...
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JBarns
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Reged: 04/24/04
Posts: 63
Loc: Nebraska
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Well,
If I were to post here who those were from, I'm sure I would be getting alot of members who would disagree, and yell at me and say that it was my tolerance level. This is the main reason why I don't want to say which OP it was from.
I would be reading some posts from members saying,
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
or
YOU WERE PROBABLY TURNED DOWN BY THEM, AND THAT'S WHY YOU ARE POSTING WEAK MEDS BY THEM!!!
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YOU PROBABLY ASKED FOR AN EARLY REFILL AND WERE DENIED!!!
etc. etc. etc.
Because they were from a very popular OP and they have alot of happy customers.
Just as I have been, up until that one refill that I received. I never really had any major problems with this OP. But If I post which OP, I would just be bashed for saying which one it was.
Kinda like when people were claiming shortages from some OP's, I'm sure that there were people with legitimate shortages, and then there were the ones who were lying, which then caused a huge war with members claiming and lying, you didn't know who to believe. Or until it happend to you, as with this situation, I didn't believe any of these meds could be weak, until I received a batch of them myself.
And just like 4Now said, It's not really the OP's fault, it's the pharmacy they go thru's fault.
I'm sure that maybe they got a good deal on these meds, and still were able to slide them under the law, so to speak.
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Pocahontas
Enthusiast
Reged: 01/28/03
Posts: 296
Loc: North
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I also will not post who my weak meds came from as it is a very good US OP...it was just one of those things, ya know? It was summer and probably heat or something.
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4Now
Member
Reged: 07/24/02
Posts: 139
Loc: USA
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I bet that 99% of people who use Ephy are satisfied with the quality of their meds. Maybe next time things will be different. Peace all...
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flippie
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Reged: 06/13/04
Posts: 134
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I really think that if there is any truth to this quality control issue, it is manufacturers making drugs in countries with crummy regulations, and various OPs may get a batch of them from time to time.
If an OP were continually selling a known inferior product like that, it would be worthy of great concern, but it does seem to be sporatic and move from OP to OP, if it is real and related to inferior quality drugs.
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