fishinpanic
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I have been taking around 20-30mg's of hydro for about 2.5 weeks. Well I started around 15mg/day, now I'm at about 30mg/day. I haven't taken one today (been up since 9am and it's 2:30) and I'm feeling chills, lethargic and achy. Does anyone have input on whether this could be hydro withdrawal? I still have plenty of my RX left, what is the best way to get off these?
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stpharmasist
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it sounds like hydro wd to me, just keep tapering down and mabey go through a couple rough days,or try ultram if nesicasary, it can take away some of the withdrawl symptoms
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selekta
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if your already tapering off, just don't take anymore...
the problem is this. once you start, you have about 72 hrs before you get to a point where you start to get 'better'....
if you take any amount after you are already started, it will set your symptoms back to zero; in essence you have to go throught the entire process all over. thats why it becomes a problem.
imo, once you start cold turkey, just be strong and go for it. tapering, hold out, just prolongs your recovery. remember, after 2 days, your already on the upswing. you'll still feel very much awful (sick, diarehhea, headaches, body chills, depression), but your better than day one or day two.
it really takes a month to feel better, but it beats having to take medicine all the time just to feal 'normal'...
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JeanneLynn
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That seems like a small dose and a short period of taking it for withdrawals to occur. Can you really get withdrawals from such a low dose and only 2 weeks? I was on hydro for the past month for my TMJ, taking only about 1 - 3 pills per day, then stopped for a day, and at first I thought I was having a little withdrawal symptoms. I didn't sleep well, felt very jittery and my legs felt restless and twitchy, but it only seemed to last about 12 hours, so it must have been something else, like too much caffeine, I decided. I've only had 10 mg in the last 36 hours and I feel normal today, so I'm guessing that it was something else.
It is possible that maybe you have a touch of illness or a bit of the flu? I have heard that you can get dependent on hydro in as little as 7 days, but I heard that the bad withdrawals are from patients taking them for months and years and in higher doses. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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fishinpanic
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I'm going for a tapering down to get off them based off of what I read on another part of the board on WD's. Cold turkey sounds horrible. My RX is still plentiful, so I still have time to play it out the way that is most comfortable for me. I took 5mg's after I posted, then 10mg about 3 hours later and am feeling better; so it must have been mild WD's. I guess I will have to compare amount of the pain and consider possible addiction to another med, since I'm already RX'd benzo's and dependent on those. It sure didn't take a long period of time to realize what a medicated world we live in.
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hudson
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Someone said there is a withdrawl board, can someone please tell me how to get there?
Thanks,
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yawkaw3
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You've been on opioids for 2 and a half weeks total? Or you had an older habit, stopped, and just got on again?
If you've only been on them for 2.5 weeks, disregard the taper advice. Your taper will end up being longer than the 20 days. Yeah, it's possible to develop very mild physical dependence in that short of a time period; and we all have different brain chemistries, so no one can know what that withdrawal feels like to you.
But I can assure you when people talk about cold turkey, they're not talking about a 2 and a half week old habit! They're talking about a year or more. That's really who benefits from tapers, I have written many posts about tapering and withdrawal here. If you taper now, all you will be doing is making yourself more dependent. Just bite the bullet and deal with it- should not last more than a day, two days at the very most. If you have extra benzos, then take them to make it a little easier. It should not be that bad- even accounting for different brain chemistries, at 2 weeks, anything after the second day is psychological. I really have to advise against the taper, doing the standard 20% reduction every 4-5 days will take longer than you've been on opioids in the first place.
I'm not minimizing what you're going through, so please don't take it like that- I've just been there are many stages of the game.
-yawkaw
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bigbiff
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dang. that was good advice. 
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Leroy47
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I believe you are talking about www.drugabuse.com. This is a board where people who have gotten into trouble with medications,have quit, or are in the process of quitting.They go into great detail on withdrawals,tapering and remedies ie the "Thomas recipe" for helping with withdrawals as a last resort.
Good Luck,
L
Edited by Leroy47 (06/22/04 11:59 AM)
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eelrm
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Quote:
I have been taking around 20-30mg's of hydro for about 2.5 weeks. Well I started around 15mg/day, now I'm at about 30mg/day.
Am^a^teur !
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rccollins
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This post reminded me of an article in Esquire back in '99. It was called "My Sweet Vicodin," and the guy talked about how he was "strung out" because he took a couple 5's here, hid a couple in his shirt pocket before he left for work, took a couple after dinner, etc. I laughed NOT because he didn't think he had a problem, but because of the comparatively LOW dosage he was on. If only all of us were so lucky to feel we were taking too much at that level for such a short time.
Believe me, Fishpanic, you're on Easy Street. By the time you read this, you're probably not feeling a thing.
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MWouk
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My first thought when you talked about WDs after only 2½ of taking 20 or 30 mg of hydro is that maybe you had a habit in the past and this little bit of opiod taste was making an old monster rear its head again?
If you do a "taper" down from 30 mg or so, you will only be using that "plentiful" supply to seal your fate about really going through some WDs at the very end of this. If you don't need it for pain, just quit it today and only take one next time you have bad pain. Good luck to you 
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Trix
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What about just knocking down 5 mg for a day or two then another 5 as needed then try going off so it isn't a cold shock but isn't a prolonged process either?.
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diggsbakes
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WOW, 2 AND A HALF WEEKS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. In my opinion no tapering is needed as Yak stated above. Most doctors advise that for moderate pain opiates should not be taken for more than 30 days.
In addition, 20-30mgs is not a lot of Hydro, I know plenty of people that take AT LEAST that much in ONE sitting. These people would love to be in your shoes.
You listed that you are prescribed benzodiazepines. Is it possible that you might have a tendency of being somewhat of a hypocondriac?
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catman1
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I was on HUGE amounts of lortab for about a year. After my operation I was totally off in about 3 months. I only needed it for that long because of the pain. But, like others have said, everybody is different.
If you don't need it, just stop. That is the best advice.
Unfortunately my back problem came back bad. I am taking 40mg percs a day for breakthrough pain. Plus something much stronger. I can't wait for the day I can stop. F withdrawals. I will stop as fast as I can without killing myself.
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