Spectre13
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Spectre, chill out, man. Your're uptight out of sight -- which is kind of a paradox and a shame because out of curiosity I reveiwed your postings and you have provided EXCELLENT feedback (and some of it -your good feedback -- according to drugbuyers.com rules, contains info that could have banned you from the board a long time ago).
And yet I am not banned - it's up to DB exclusively. I defend myself when necessary - and without apology. If it seems "tit for tat" to you, it's nevertheless still defense on this end (mattering more to myself than to you).
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Why are you so angry about 123fastmeds.com? Please give me some feedback as to what OP(s) you believe to be worth the time and effort. Do you believe there is a significant difference between an OP that requires medical records vs one that requires a medical questionaire? If you had to pick 1 op, which one would you choose?
I'm not mad at anybody. As you must know by now, saying it as if it were so does not make it so. Picturing mad people when reading posts is but a fig newton of your imagination. That being said, when people post false information and I correct it (as happened with regard to 123fastmeds), that is a service, not an outlash.
If you want to see genuine "mad", click on this.
With regard to OPs, without a physical examination as required by law, there is essentially no difference between those requiring records and those who do not (legally speaking). The rest of it is posturing. Otherwise, those with the best prices and the best service are a wise choice. From the current look of things, everyone under the sun has gone downhill. As such, I really can't recommend anyone at this time. However, I've been using the skyrx/jetsrx/gooddeals/hotdeals/sunshinerx bunch (take your pick) for the past few months with widely varying degrees of service and/or success. They slip further with each passing day, so it's just a matter of time before they're nothing but a distant memory.
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lynne114
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(and some of it -your good feedback -- according to drugbuyers.com rules, contains info that could have banned you from the board a long time ago).
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I agree with you totally Uncus! It seems funny that Oldbuddy was banned after having a 2 year stint with DB and never posted anything that could hurt anyone. But after you read some of Spectre words he should have been with Oldbuddy a long time ago. This to me was a bad move on Drugbuyers.com part. I really feel Oldbuddy was not involved with 123fastmeds and was only trying to help. Yes he registered another name under 123fastmeds but do you or I know why? NO! There is no place anywhere that he was affiliated with them nor has he ever been. I wish he was around to give his side of the story. There is always 2 sides if you get my drift. I dont think it is fair for Spectre or anyone else to slam him after he is gone. I really feel everyone or most everyone is jumping the gun big time on this one. If you really take a look around on this site you will see not one person posted anything bad about Oldbuddy or 123fastmeds. So slow down Spectre and the rest of you before you go burnning anyone on this fourm. We all have our own thoughts on what people say and do and that is no reason to play dective just so you can show the board how cool you are and how nobody is going to put one over on you. You must have had something very bad happen to you in your childhood to make you as angry and thriving for attention the way you act on this board. Now lets see what type of stuff you can come up with now just to get peoples blood boiling. This way you will get the attention you are so much thriving for. For the rest of the board thank you for standing up for Oldbuddy. I do feel he deserves a say so in this and banning him was a bad move. He did not deserve that one bit. Oh and Spectre, dont make a post towards me saying I must be friends with Old buddy and or part owner in 123fastmeds. Nobody wants to hear it and you couldnot be farther from the truth. NOW THAT IS MY THOUGHT ON THIS SUBJECT!
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Spectre13
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No, you are not friends with Buddy, you are the same person formerly posting as Buddy using a new name now. Additionally, you have not responded to proof that you were lying... You said kwikrx.com and 123fastmeds.com are registered under the same name. They are not. That is a lie. Here is your chance to respond to something that actually has bearing upon the matter:
Again, Here are the facts...
kwikrx.com is registered to "David Moss" in Oklahoma.
123fastmeds.com is registered to "Dan Moyer" in Nebraska.
How long did you think this lie could fly?
Insisting that I am merely "angry" because I will not allow you to get away with deceiving the public is not helping your case any way shape or form. BTW, your alter ego Buddy posted that he had used 123fastmeds without problems for well over a year despite the fact 123fastmeds is barely a week old. I suppose you believe everyone here should allow that obvious non-truth to roll right off their backs and give Buddy a good 'ol pat on his back. Ain't gonna happen.
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lynne114
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Again you should read MY POST A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. WHAT I SAID WAS I ORDERED THOUGH KIWKRX FOR A LONG TIME (OVER A YEAR AT LEAST) AND I NEVER ORDERED THOUGH THEIR NEW NAME 123FASTMEDS. NOW DID YOU GET TO THAT POINT SO FAR? OK LETS MOVE ON...
OK WE HAVE ESTABLISHED YOU LIKE PLAYING DETECTIVE SO WHY DONT YOU SEND Dan Moyer A LITTLE EMAIL AND VERIFY THAT HE OWNS KWIKRX.COM. THIS SHOULD TAKE UP A GOOD PART OF YOUR DAY AND MAYBE YOU WILL GET SOME SLEEP TONIGHT.
NOW THAT WE HAVE DWINDWLED DOWN TO YOUR LAST TWO UNEXPLAINED QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WHICH I HAVE ANSWERED STRIGHT UP FRONT AND FOR WHICH YOU ARE FINDING OUT YOU CLEARLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT I AM AND EVERYONE ELSE IS LYING. YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP QUIT BEING SO PARONOID AND GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE. SO YOU LOST A FEW BUCKS OR SO. BIG DEAL HAVENT WE ALL. BUT DO YOU SEE ANYONE ELSE CARRYING ON LIKE YOU DO. I FEEL YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO CHAT WITH ON THE INTERNET BUT WOULD AVOID BEING A FRIEND OF YOURS (IN PERSON) BECAUSE YOU WOULD EMBARASE THEM TO DEATH. By the way. I am not Buddy good try though. I am sure you will nick pick though the internet until you find some sort of a hint with out investigating the entire matter before you start some more of your bull just to be you! Later. Hey standing up to you and showing you dont have a clue what you are talking about is not so bad after all! You are easy to figure out. You changes around do a little investigative work find something that might be close, blow it way out of proportion and wala! instant poop!
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holden99
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Lynne114 gotcha there Spectre13 with a BURN!!! You guys are making my internet surfing kinda interesting tonight---please don't stop.
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ML55
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I think you both make interesting points, but I definitely agree with Spectre that Oldbuddy was involved with 123Fastmeds. I was reading another post in another thread and Oldbuddy was promoting 123Fastmeds there too! To me that goes beyond giving feedback, and becomes promotion. What would be his motivation for going on and on about it, if he didn't have a stake in it?
My final thought is that things got shady when oldbuddy got all crazy and wrote that nasty post to Spectre. This truely convinced me that oldbuddy was a scammer. If he really just wanted to help people with some information he wouldn't haven gone off the deep end with that post.
Just my thoughts.
-ML55
and one final note Lynne, I think you might be stretching a little too far by suggesting that what happened in Spectre's childhood is related to the nature of what he posts here. Spectre is obvious cocky/confident, but I don't think it is malicious that he is attacking legitimate posters.
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Spectre13
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Again you should read MY POST A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. WHAT I SAID WAS I ORDERED THOUGH KIWKRX FOR A LONG TIME (OVER A YEAR AT LEAST) AND I NEVER ORDERED THOUGH THEIR NEW NAME 123FASTMEDS. NOW DID YOU GET TO THAT POINT SO FAR? OK LETS MOVE ON...
You have established in a prior post that you ordered from kwikrx, and not 123fastmeds. You then claimed that 123fastmeds used to be kwikrx. You subsequently backed up the claim by misrepresenting whois registration data. Why are you randomly bringing it up again now? Oh, if by some far stretch of the imagination you are now claiming "kiwrx" is not a typo... forget it, that illogical domain has never existed.
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OK WE HAVE ESTABLISHED YOU LIKE PLAYING DETECTIVE SO WHY DONT YOU SEND Dan Moyer A LITTLE EMAIL AND VERIFY THAT HE OWNS KWIKRX.COM. THIS SHOULD TAKE UP A GOOD PART OF YOUR DAY AND MAYBE YOU WILL GET SOME SLEEP TONIGHT.
Why would I send him an email? The whois registration data clearly shows him to be the registrant of 123fastmeds.com, in direct contrast to your statement that the very same data shows both sites to be registered to the same person (aka: a lie). BTW, I am not merely "playing" detective. If doing a whois lookup makes one a detective, then a large majority of those that surf the internet are detectives (aka: smart).
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NOW THAT WE HAVE DWINDWLED DOWN TO YOUR LAST TWO UNEXPLAINED QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WHICH I HAVE ANSWERED STRIGHT UP FRONT AND FOR WHICH YOU ARE FINDING OUT YOU CLEARLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT I AM AND EVERYONE ELSE IS LYING. YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP QUIT BEING SO PARONOID AND GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE. SO YOU LOST A FEW BUCKS OR SO. BIG DEAL HAVENT WE ALL. BUT DO YOU SEE ANYONE ELSE CARRYING ON LIKE YOU DO. I FEEL YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO CHAT WITH ON THE INTERNET BUT WOULD AVOID BEING A FRIEND OF YOURS (IN PERSON) BECAUSE YOU WOULD EMBARASE THEM TO DEATH. By the way. I am not Buddy good try though. I am sure you will nick pick though the internet until you find some sort of a hint with out investigating the entire matter before you start some more of your bull just to be you! Later. Hey standing up to you and showing you dont have a clue what you are talking about is not so bad after all! You are easy to figure out. You changes around do a little investigative work find something that might be close, blow it way out of proportion and wala! instant poop!
To have lost bucks, I would have had to have ordered from the OP at hand, and that I have not done, nor is paranoia needed when the facts speak so clearly and loudly for themselves. I didn't say you were Buddy either, I said you were the same person who posted as Buddy, now using a new name. You claim to have demonstrated that I do not have a clue. In the end, however, you have only stated, but have not actually demonstrated that "charge". You have also equated facts with "poop". As such, you should have no trouble chewing through the same question a third time...
Again, why state that both sites are owned by the same person, even going so far as to claim that registration data supports your claim, when actually looking at the data shows otherwise? Here's your lucky chance to answer again.
Note: To those concerned, all whois lookups were done through http://www.netsol.com
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Spectre13
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Lynne114 gotcha there Spectre13 with a BURN!!! You guys are making my internet surfing kinda interesting tonight---please don't stop.
Hot air does tend to burn, yes, but I'm no worse for the wear.
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patient2all
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Just to muddle things further, I think I'm the one who posted the original 'whois' data on 123fastmeds.. but despite:
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. BTW, your alter ego Buddy posted that he had used 123fastmeds without problems for well over a year despite the fact 123fastmeds is barely a week old.
there exists the remote possibility that 123fastmeds expired and was purhased at auction, either by the original owner or someone new. Where does that leave us?
I'd say some well-to-do poster with a need should make a 30 count purchase of something and see how it turns out. Then who cares about playing "What's my Line"?
Though it has become an interesting thread....., better than the "who's faster, hotrx or hot deals?" type.
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Spectre13
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What's worse is that he/she will eventually realize he/she is actually talking about kwikrx.biz, not kwikrx.com, which is indeed registered to the same person as 123fastmeds.com - it's a sister site, older than 123fastmeds... 2 weeks older.
Thus, it makes no difference in the posters credibility, as he/she claims it was registered in 2002, whereas the registration data for kwikrx.biz shows it was registered on June 1, 2004. Yet another lie. How deep does it go? It's simply not possible for he/she to have ordered from them many months ago.
Whether or not this place will actually sell someone meds is not my primary concern. If it does, it does so insecurely, and certainly not with free shipping. Moreover, using lies to promote the place is simply beyond repulsive.
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BamaChica
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IMO way too much time has been wasted on this subject already...however. the previous poster makes a point...I own a website which I purchased after waiting for the domain to become available for several months...this could have also happened in this case or the registration simply could have expired and was re-=registered in march..its really not that hard of a concept to grasp..Im sure you know this too spectre but are just not bringing it up when speaking to Lynn for arguments sake..lol. But so be it.. enough already though..k? this horse is dead...lets not beat it.
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Spectre13
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The revelation of truth is not a waste of time. The point, while theoretically valid, is ultimately moot (although that will not keep he/she from clamping to it like your average visegrip). First, consider a site that has merely been "assumed" by a new owner. In that case, the domain has not expired, and thus the original registration date stands. In this case, it (kwikrx.biz for example) was claimed to be registered in 2002. The current registration data reflects June 1, 2004, thus it could not have been originally registered in 2002 under the "assumed name" scenario. That leaves the possibility that it had expired, and was re-registered later. However, the poster states, "If you checked like you said you did. You will see" (concretely implying the current registration data) that it was registered in 2002. Thus, it is either a falsehood, or the poster is relying upon inside knowledge that only someone involved with the site (reasonably speaking) would know - get it? Either that, or reliance upon an ancient whois lookup - a possibility ruled out as demonstrated above (via implication of the current data). It is also rather obvious that despite pointing at the "supportive" data, he/she was not really looking up the whois data at the time. Had they done so, the correct domain extension (".biz" and not ".com") would have been made known to them. In fact, this person could not have even retrieved the data without first entering in the right extension. Thus, the data was merely recalled from (a somewhat faulty) memory. Why would they have this particular memory one might ask. The answer, again, is obvious: they're intimately involved with the site, knowing details that aren't readily available to the rest of us (IMHO of course).
Additionally, expired sites are usually down for the count before re-registration, usually for many months. This would logically leave the site out of commission many months ago - get it (still, an unknown variable)? One can apply these principles to 123fastmeds as well.
Regardless, it's possible to obtain the history of these domains if one takes the time and effort to go through the proper channels (this being in the works as we speak - I don't like loose ends).
BTW, March?
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MerryJ
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Has anyone else noticed there are now two entirely different 123fastmeds threads, each with the same number of posts yet slightly differing in authors and content. It's like a weird parallel universe or something.
Okay...now I'm all confused. I know I posted in this thread and my post is missing. And where did that post go from the mod saying she had banned our old buddy and that he had another name that started with 123? There must be a big ole black hole in at least one of those universes!
Merry
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komet
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Has anyone else noticed there are now two entirely different 123fastmeds threads, each with the same number of posts yet slightly differing in authors and content. It's like a weird parallel universe or something.
Fact; these threads are living things. Sometime they divide (via cellular mitosis) into two nearly identical threads.
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soulchik
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komet,
Too cool!! Is it a mutant living thread? ha
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Pickledoo
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IMHO this is actually a dead thread. Bury it, put it to rest. I see nothing constructive here.
123whatever is bad. Enough said.
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kintzer
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You know what? You are absolutly right. My bad. Sorry.
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Uncus
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Hi Spectre13,
O.K., I clicked on the "mad" link - that fellow was definately mad...as a hatter.
BTW, I ordered from gooddeals with good results. Thanks for your info.
Uncus
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