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prettyday
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Government Cookies How Come We didn't know this?
      #166231 - 06/02/04 02:44 PM

http://msn-cnet.com.com/Government+data-mining+lives+on/2010-1028_3-5223088.html?part=msn-cnet&tag=feed_2517&subj=ns

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Trampy
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Re: Government Cookies How Come We didn't know this? [Re: prettyday]
      #166242 - 06/02/04 03:11 PM

Since Customs is now a part of DHS, i'll bet that if it includes traffic tickets, their database includes the seizure notices they send out:
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Government data-mining lives on
June 1, 2004, 6:00 AM PT
By Declan McCullagh

Congress managed to pull the plug last year on the Pentagon's data-mining plan known as Total Information Awareness, but it turns out that the effects were only fleeting.
A new government report reveals that federal agencies have undertaken 199 data-mining efforts, 131 of which are already operational. A surprising number resemble clones of the controversial Total Information Awareness project, which was intended to peruse exabytes of data on Americans assembled from every source possible as a means to snare terrorists.

Some of the highlights of the General Accounting Office report, which represents nearly a year of investigation:

• The Department of Homeland Security is creating an Incident Data Mart designed to assemble data from every state, local, and federal police agency and spot possible terrorist activities. The data mart will sort through logs of incidents, defined as any "event involving a law enforcement or government agency for which a log was created, e.g., traffic ticket, drug arrest, or firearm possession.


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prettyday
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Re: Government Cookies How Come We didn't know this? [Re: Trampy]
      #166247 - 06/02/04 03:46 PM

I am quite certain you're right. I have not been posting because I have been dealing with an insurance quaqmire so complicated it must be designed to just make people do a swift run over a high cliff so they'll go way away.

How nice to know that everything gets fed into somewhere somehow and will catch up to all of us someday....

How long before this gets tapped by the mortgage industry and used as an unspecified reason for turning one down for a loan or squeezing out a higher rate of interest? Come on, those lists get tapped and sold all the time, and with everyone involved profitting off the knowledge, no one will rush to expose all the profiling ability they have.

No one even has to do anything with this info right now. They just have to pay some poor sap to enter or scan incidences and random reports all day long into cache after cache. Sooner or later a program will come along to wrap it all together, and when that happens....

Lord---there is no end....think of it....teaching certificates, commissioned career officers, driving licenses (even if your med treatment was over years ago, every time there is a spot check on the road...,) child custody hearings, small business loans, college grants, the right to bear arms, the right to free speech without being dismissed as "obviously drug-dependent; not worth listening to", should I go on?

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tesla
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Re: Government Cookies How Come We didn't know thi [Re: prettyday]
      #166402 - 06/03/04 10:48 AM

A few months ago, when my knee was aching too much to sleep, I watched a Congressional Budget committee interviewing five retired adm, generals, FBI and CIA agents who represented the Terrorist Threat IP (TTIP). They had no budget since all the 80 agents were still listed as being employed elsewhere, ibid for supplies, and the CIA gave them free space.

You could see the Congress peole were amazed. They asked questions about their functions and were told, "We review data and alert other agencies."
TTIP has access to raw data, satellite feeds etc. When asked about oversight, the FBI agent said, "We have none." He like the other four were openly defiant. IT was obvious TTIP does what it Best if kept off the board well pleases.

Scary!!!!


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Wilmato69
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Re: Government Cookies How Come We didn't know thi [Re: tesla]
      #166806 - 06/05/04 08:55 AM

Hi!
Prettyday, I love you sig line! I live in Florida and there's a place in Tampa called Ybor City (pronounced EEbore). A few years back they put cameras EVERYWHERE!! They also had a computer interface that would scan faces at random and search the government databases for criminals using physical features (ex. spacing of the eyes, nose, and mouth no 2 are alike)..... YIKES!!! While I am not a criminal, it is scary that this is happening. Sign of the times........... just thought I would share!


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Guzele
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Re: Government Cookies How Come We didn't know thi [Re: Wilmato69]
      #167332 - 06/08/04 05:48 AM

And before you know it, we are all micro-chipped like my cats!!!! Probably with GPS locaters as well.

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