okiedad777
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Does anyone know of a good sleeping med that I can get from an OP? Ambien doesn't work all that well for me, and because I work nights, I just don't get good sleep. I take Xanax for Panic Disorder, and it does help a little, but would like a more effective sleep med that I can get through an OP with no problem.
Thanks to all!!!
Jimbo 
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Greycie
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I like restoril- not sure where you can get it online, though.
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whisper
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Xanax might make it easier to get to sleep, but it prevents you from getting deep sleep, so be careful with it.
If you go to RemedyFind.com you will see ratings for a bunch of sleep disorder meds. On the sleep disorder page, if you click on "All Remedies", you will see that Soma (carisoprodol) is rated higher than anything on the main page. It's not a sleep med per se, but people seem to like it. I have some on order.
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Mora
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Ask about Sonata 10mg....This medicine is a hypnotic agent used for the short-term treatment of insomnia. My friend currently takes this, and seems to like it.
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keystone
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I have tried Ambien, Soma, Sonata, Restoril and all work OK. Sonata is the weakest (IMO).
Recently I am using Zanaflex. 4mg and...holy cow. I lose the ability to function and go right to sleep for the night. It is pricy, but if you have never tried it, I highly suggest it.
Everybody is different as we know. I am sure you will get many great suggestions. Try as many as you can.
Melatonin is a good supplement. It doesnt work great to knock you out, but after the initial 10-14 day "loading" period, recent studies show that it increased REM sleep in 70% of individuals. (Yes, I can provide proof if you need it )
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okiedad777
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thanks to all who have responded! This is a good start. The Soma I have tried, and does seem to help me sleep. The Ambien worked a "little"...very little.
I will do some more research.
Thanks again!
Jimbo
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padmakara
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I've heard that my friend's old boyfriend had serious stomach problems after taking a couple of melatonin pills nightly for about a year, had to have surgery apparently, I think caused GI bleeding (not sure though). If I take it personally, it hurts my tummy bad! When I first started taking it, it didn't, it felt nice, made me dream. But now it just hurts! I wake up in the middle of the night just ow ow ow. So I'd say be careful with the stuff.
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IMSUSCOT1
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My personal fav is Restoril....only OP i've seen is Myemeds.com...and they were pricey....I tried melatonin & had HORRIBLE nightmares....so, I don't know if it was a weird reaction...but maybe 2 soma's instead of one? You could try valium...longer half life, but be careful with the dependence issue....I went to Catalina recently & took some dramamine..and slept through the boat ride, so maybe that's an option...
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toe
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remedyfind is an excellent suggestion. . . as are muscle relaxers like zanaflex, flexeril, or soma (for most people). Trazadone I believe is TCA according my last psychiatrist "commonly prescribed for sleep as it really doesn't do anything else." I must admit that my experience of the cumulative effects of using 150mg of trazadone a night (you do build a tolerance) in combo with my other psych meds led me straight off of trazadone forever.
Nitrazepam, flunitrazepam, brotizolam, bromazepam are not commercially available ("legally") in the US but I do believe plenty of folks out there swear by them. I have tried the first three and not found them as effective as for sleep as good old triazolam ("Greenstone" generic, v. important) aka Halcion.
Watch melatonin use if you suffer from depression, it can definitely complicate this disorder. Make sure you get synthetic, not "natural" melatonin--lest you buy an older bottle possibly tainted by Mad Cow Disease. Vibrant troubling dreams resulted from long term use by me.
Zopiclone (brand name Imovane?) is a surprisingly useful, affordable, unscheduled sleeping med. I am very much on about Imovane right now.
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okiedad777
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Thanks again! The Melatonin helped a little when I took it years ago, but had bad dreams and felt sleepy all of the time.
I can't take OTC sleep aids, as I get restless leg syndrome with them, as well as OTC cold remedies. It's weird, but runs in my family. My sister has the same problem with OTC products. My wife can take that stuff, and she is fine, but not me!
I have never heard of Zopiclone. Do OP's carry it? I may want to give that a try. Sinse I take benzos already, I don't want to take another related med, so maybe that might be the way to go.
Jimbo
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Adenosine
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I've tried zopiclone before, and it did not help me very much (ambien however, will get me to bed very nicely). Not to mention that it costs more than a benzodiazepine!
Ambien was always wierd with me, however. I wouldn't feel sleepy at all, but if I tried to go to bed, I was out within 10 minutes.
Temazepam (restoril) seems to be working fine at the moment, but we will see what tolerance comes...
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night_shade
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Trazadone will definitely put you to sleep, is cheap and is not addictive. I used it for 2 years and never developed any tolerance to it. When dealing with severe pain, I took 150mgs/night, but on a "normal" day I would get good sleep with only 50mgs. The problem with Trazadone is the "hangover" the next morning. This goes away after a few days' usage. Another side effect that I had with Trazadone was a "stuffy" nose. This was feeling like my nose was closing up, not like you feel when you have a cold. A little Afrin and all was well. I still use it occasionally, but only 25mgs. I found that I was able to decrease my Trazadone dose and still get quality sleep after the pain issues were treated adequately (well, I admit, that on methadone at 100mgs/day I didn't really need the Traz any longer!  ...)
I've also used Halcion (triazolam) .25mg and Ambien. Halcion should only be used for short-term insomnia issues and has nasty side effects. Ambiem just didn't work and made me feel as if I had had any deep sleep at all.
That's my experience with prescription sleep meds. I actually take Phenergan now if I need a little help sleeping. Traz if I'm desperate.
Good luck finding something that works!
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Beetlenut
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Whisper:
Wow! Thanks   . That is one of the best website that I have run across in a very long time .
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Reel_X_4U
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For me, If I experience a prolong insomniac episode (like continuosly waking up earlierly in the night, like those notrious 3AM wake-ups, with the inability to fall asleep no matter what you do!!, until sleep does kindos start to "REELLY" kick in, but now it's 6AM and you have get up and ready for work), then I don't play around, I don't care how much it's going to cost, I'll just go straight to my doctor get a script for prosom (1mg), it's a chemical cousin of halcion, which is also very good and effective sleeping med (all you need is .50mg and you're out like a light a get you full 8, with little no hangover effect. But the thing about is you have take it sparely like maybe 4 times a week, and depend on something else for the "OFF" days, Soma not a bad idea, this way you extend the script and reduce your risk of rebound anxiety and insomnia, which for some reason, is prevalent in Halcion (trizolam), (I Learned the Hard Way, when you actually feel it, it can be disabling, until it goes away, then your fine). If you want from to stay away for the "ZOLAMS", stick the "ZEPAMS", then Doral (Quazepam) 15 mg in not a bad idea, nor is Dalmane (Flurazepam) 30mg. It probably easier to get anyway and cheaper and with less rebound anxiety and insomnia. Anyway I'm sure you're find something, afterall most doctos are easy to get with, just got to learn to speak "THEIR" language (Documention & Justification"), give him the "justification" (have your story straight), he will document, and give you what you need!!!!
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keystone
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I need a little help on this one. I need sleep! The following do not work for me (anymore)
Soma, Restoril, Xanax, Klonopin, Valium, Sonata, Ambien, Halcion, Zanaflex, Flexeril, phenobarbital.
What is next ?!?!? I have tried to obtain chloral hydrate but nobody carries it.
Does Prosom (estazolam) work well for anybody?
Thanks, and sleep well 
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oldandwise
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I need a little help on this one. I need sleep! The following do not work for me (anymore)
Soma, Restoril, Xanax, Klonopin, Valium, Sonata, Ambien, Halcion, Zanaflex, Flexeril, phenobarbital.
What is next ?!?!? I have tried to obtain chloral hydrate but nobody carries it.
Does Prosom (estazolam) work well for anybody?
Thanks, and sleep well
I am not certain but if halcion does not work. Some of these might.. But it has been my experence that halcion woud knock out anyone. Short-acting benzodiazepines are generally used for patients with sleep-onset insomnia (difficulty falling asleep) without daytime anxiety. Shorter-acting benzodiazepines used to manage insomnia include estazolam (ProSom®), flurazepam (Dalmane®), temazepam (Restoril®), and triazolam (Halcion®). Midazolam (Versed®), a short-acting benzodiazepine, is utilized for sedation, anxiety, and amnesia in critical care settings and prior to anesthesia. It is available in the United States as an injectable preparation and as a syrup (primarily for pediatric patients
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oldandwise
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Does anyone know of a good sleeping med that I can get from an OP? Ambien doesn't work all that well for me, and because I work nights, I just don't get good sleep. I take Xanax for Panic Disorder, and it does help a little, but would like a more effective sleep med that I can get through an OP with no problem.
Thanks to all!!!
Jimbo
Have you tried halcion ???
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IMSUSCOT1
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Yeah, my doc just prescribed Zanaflex a couple months back & it can KIck your XXX...but I've delveloped a little tolerance to it...
I like soma for sleep, but have to take 2-3 tabs...
I also like restoril...
Melatonin gave me like the worst nightmares I'd ever had!!
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kahuna
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Ambien doesnt work?? Have you taken it for a while? Ambien works well with me... Trippy dreams though.. I find that it doesnt work well if you take it daily.. I also have tried Sonata and it works well for me also..
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