Greycie
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Reged: 07/08/03
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Loc: Pacific NorthWest
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Recently I've noticed a few posts and/or posters that just aren't sitting right with me. A person registers, gets their right to post and the first thing they want to know is, "Which way to the Oxycontin" or "How do I get around sending records in" or, "Where can I get something stronger than Hydro" or "How can I get a gaggle of hydro STAT??". Then, if you take the time to check out the posts said persons have contributed, they either all center around the same sort of idea or they're all in the original forum. Quite frankly, I don't feel these posts should be given an answer. It seems to me that somebody may just be looking for something here that doesn't exist. Come on people- we've all done our research... before heading straight for the "G spot" so to speak. I just wish those of us that have been here for a while would take the time to do a little investigating into who it is we're truly "helping". I feel it needs to be said that, while you may feel you're helping one person in "need"... a little research and thought to the reality of a situation just might make you realize you might not be helping anybody at all.
Just a thought I felt was worthy of noting due to a few recent threads I found a little concerning.
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diggsbakes
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Reged: 09/17/03
Posts: 554
Loc: Mountians
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I completely agree with you. It is very unsettling to read some of the posts that are made by people that obviously found this board by default and have no other reason for participating in discussions other than for their own benefit of seeking recreational drugs.
Despite the fact that most of these "members" are very new (1-10 posts and no longer than 3 months) there are still some members out there that fall into the higher end of the median of the margin of being "new" that constantly search for the no record or "easy fix" OPs. It is very obvious who these members are and I too disapprove of this activity.
Good post!
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Jordan530
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Loc: The Left Coast of Florida
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Greycie, I agree with you totally and understand your concern but, I've been around this board for quite awhile now, and as long as I've been here there has always been 'those posters' and probably always will be. Fortunately it seems that most of them catch on very quickly that that is NOT what this board is about and leave. I guess the best thing we can do is continue to do what we've been doing... tell them to search the threads for themself and usually they catch our drift and head elsewhere if their intentions and needs are not quite legit.
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Greycie
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Reged: 07/08/03
Posts: 466
Loc: Pacific NorthWest
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I think that's exactly my point, Jordan, that we should be referring them to do a little research on their own. I agree, these posters are always going to be around, but what concerns me is maybe somebody who isn't so aware taking them at face value, giving them information that could be harmful, by innocent nature, but still harmful. And that's as specific as I'm going to be, LOL! Gotta love vague, no?
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"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
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lovely11
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Who made you judge, jury and executioner all in one?!
My, what a heavy load you must bear. I mean to take the weight of the entire drugbuyers.com community and judge who's legit and who's not, that must take an awful lot of time. And you determine this by what means?
You're good!
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I wish I were half as good as my dog thinks I am.
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bhamdave
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Lovely
All YOU have to do is READ THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!
The truth is the truth.
It's that way on every board.
What gives you the right to critize anyone?
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It's not YOUR problem (I hope that)
It's not MY problem (I know that)
But it is still OUR problem and WE know that!
Edited by bhamdave (05/06/04 02:32 PM)
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lovely11
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Sarcastic maybe but not critical. I was only making an observation and asking a question.
And, everyone was a new poster at one time. I'm just amazed at folks who think they have the right to judge who's legit and who's not based on the number of posts they have. The name of the website alone will attract shady characters. But who determines who is shady and who is not. The way I see it is I'm not walking in anyone's shoes but my own. I don't know their circumstances nor do I rule their life. Therefore, I have no right to judge their legitimate need or lack thereof for medication or anything else for that matter. The cover of a book does not always indicate what's inside. I thought most adults had learned this by now.
And, if someone is browsing the board for something other than a legimate source for medication, they'll eventually find out there are no illegal sources here. It's that simple.
Edited by lovely11 (05/06/04 03:08 PM)
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carrigaline
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Reged: 01/22/03
Posts: 82
Loc: So Cal
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Hi Greycie,
I enjoy reading your posts. I find them to be thoughtful and helpful to others. I'm glad we have a place where we can exchange information and ideas concerning our health issues. This board has helped me to function again. Thanks.
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dsmmcm
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Reged: 11/08/03
Posts: 392
Loc: southwest US
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I think the best way to deal with these people is to give them a basically correct but incomplete answer and then refer them to the boards. Of course, this will not work, because other members will post with additional info, if for no other reason other than to build their own post count. Still, I do not think you can assume that they are not legit. If they are for real, they will read the boards, otherwise, they will vanish. Most of them do the latter.
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LumbarSpasm
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Reged: 05/07/02
Posts: 1538
Loc: USA
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I agree.
This has nothing to do with post counts.
It has to do with reading the board, getting a feel for what the board is about, and showing some respect for drugbuyers.
The truth is, veterans won't give the time of day to people that start out with "wheres the oxy-wheres the hydro".
I am open to new people. I was new too. I remember being intimidated by all the information, and posting the wrong thing.
Some people are in a ton of pain, have gone untreated for a long time and will ask WHERE'S THE HYDRO.
The truth is, it won't get a person far asking that in the title of a thread, especially when there is information all over the place.
And a search button.
Just my opinion.
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Or just a pain in the butt?!
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debbie4884
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Reged: 03/12/04
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Loc: Michigan
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I'm sorry, but I agree with Lovely. I don't have many posts, but have been around drugbuyers for MANY years. I don't have time to start making a lot of posts to get my number up there so I can be in the "club". The whole attitude of these posts are "we are superior people to these scumbags that are trying to get drug information from OUR site!" If you don't want to answer their posts, then don't.
A lot of us use OP's because of being "judged" by doctors who won't treat our pain. The last thing I would do is try to judge someone else....
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debbie4884
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Posts: 135
Loc: Michigan
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Oh and BHAMDAVE- you asked Lovely - what gives her the right to critize anyone? That is what this whole thread is about! Critizing others that are thought of as "not legit".
Please.
Wow- I made another post.. wonder if I'm getting closer to the "club".
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Greycie
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Reged: 07/08/03
Posts: 466
Loc: Pacific NorthWest
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Debbie,
You have grossly misinterpreted the post. It is not about how many posts you have, but rather, the post that you're making. I don't care if you have 8,000 posts, if all you're posting is something to draw attention to the eyes of LE or the ultimate demise of DB, then it's WRONG and should not be responded to. End of story.
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yawkaw3
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Reged: 03/22/03
Posts: 1193
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I think a lot of this thread was miscommunication and people jumped all over each other- it's hard to tell what it's even about now.
There have been an overabundance of questionable posts lately. Of course there were always some. I don't know why that offended people, that's the gist of what Greycie was saying.
Of course who you give information to is your choice- I think she was only saying to think twice before automatically giving anyone whatever info they want.
-yawkaw
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BFThornberry
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Reged: 01/23/04
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I can understand being wary when someone is very blatantly asking for drugs in a manner that doesn't represent the board well - but I really have a problem when members decide that someone's medical condition doesn't warrant meds. It just isn't possible to know. If the OP is worth a darn - it's up to the doctor to make that decision - there's no need for members to try and do the doctor's job. If the reason sounds stupid to YOU it probably will sound stupid to the doctor too - if it truly IS stupid.
If someone does get over zealous and uses careless - then if you choose to ignore them fine - it's no one's business who you reply to.
Just my 2 cents
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debbie4884
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Reged: 03/12/04
Posts: 135
Loc: Michigan
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I really don't have the energy to get into a flaming war over this. End of my story.
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leila01
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Loc: pennsylvania
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IMHO, if someone 's only start to a thread is "Where can I get Hydro fast?" then I would think that most people will respond negatively. If the person could just add something to the original post - a little about their problem, I don't believe people would be so critical. As for number of posts, when someone asks that question, I immediately look at the number of posts and have to wonder what their true intent is if their posts are at 1 or 2. I think we are all here to help when we can, but I have to say when a post is just so short, and usually you don't hear from them again - not even a "thank you" or follow up to the original post when they do get answers, you have to wonder. Maybe those people are seriously in need and don't have time at the moment to write much, but really, you never seem to hear from them again. And I remember when I first found this site, I read A LOT before I ever asked a question. You can find pretty much what you need with a little research - especially to a question of "Where's the Hydro?"
Just my .02. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I know there are people out there who really need help fast sometimes.
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Deedie
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leila, you didn't offend me at all, as I agree with your post. 
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sigmund22
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It's easy to understand Greycie's concern and, at times, irritating to wade through one line questions that aren't even phrased politely
IMO there's two ways of handling such posts. The first is not to answer it. Then the burden falls on the poster to think that there may be some some other way to get the information.
Second, one can ask why they need X med, show an interest in their condition and see if there is a real problem. For example, earlier this week, someone asked for a gamut of meds to help two different conditions that don't even co-occur. New members need help so they could be guided to the search option or pointed in the direction of how to do the research themselves. The member has to ultimately take responsibility for decisions about which med from which OP.
Otherwise they make end up like:
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Packersfan
Stranger
Reged: 02/28/04
Posts: 23
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Wow. This forum ceases to amaze me everytime I've come over here from another Board....I don't know what it is, but so many people are just fighting and bickering over here--all the time!!
I'll probably get flamed because I don't have a whole lot of posts here, but I've read a lot--after getting through the mumble jumble of the cat fights over here.
I belong to another Board where there's no bickering and fighting, but a ton of information. Last time I was here I posted the name of it, but drugbuyers put "Best if Kept Off the Board" in the name's place. Not sure why they would be against posting another forum's name....
Anyhow, can't everyone just get a long????? It's really frustrating to come for support and to learn--only to see people acting like this is THEIR board or something.
It's actually funny--not.
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DrugBuyers
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Reged: 11/18/01
Posts: 1246
Loc: DrugBuyers.Com
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This has been discussed before and there is no easy answer to this.
We want all new members to feel welcome and to receive the help they need.
We have rules and as long as the rules are respected all is fine. The board is not the place to complain about ather members in an individual or general way. This only leads to flames and bad feelings among members. Who is better? Who has more right to get it? Who is a legitimate user? Who gave you the right to judge me? I am right you are wrong!
We are not here to judge others. We are here to find the best sources for prescription drugs.
This topic already resulted in many removed posts and a couple of bans.
If any member has a problem with a post, or with other members, they can press the notify moderator botton or send us a PM and the mods and I will try to enforce the rules.
We have to go on a post by post an on a member by member basis :-)
One of our rules clearly mentions that we will not allow any negative comments about other members or our board in public.
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13) Our board threads are not the place to post about your problems with the moderator, other members, or disagreement with our board rules and site mission.
We welcome you comments and suggestion for change by e-mail
We offer a forum for suggestions on how to improve our site under the current rules and objectives.
We will close this thread.
If you feel that a post is not proper: please press the "notify moderator botton" available on each post.
It looks like this: 
The moderators will take it from there :-)
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