brenda1231
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I have searched the boards. Thought I saw a post about this before, but maybe I am searching wrong.
I know many have posted good experiences using tramadol for a hydro holiday. I think some have mentioned tapering with tramadol, but I am not sure.
I am curious if anyone has any experience with or knows if you can mix hydro and tramadol.
For instance can tramadol be used for a hydro taper. Could one safely substitute tramadol for a hydro dose here and there without adverse affects from w/d from the hydro or from mixing the two meds??
Also, if this can be done, Once one was hydro free, I am assuming they would then have to taper from the ultram as well? If the Ultram usage is short term, wouldn't this taper be quick, or would stopping the tramadol bring back the hydro w/d?
I hope I have asked this question clearly.
The Question is: Can Tramadol and hydro be mixed, and will tramadol aleviate or help one avoid hydro withdrawals?
Thanks for any help, any experience or knowledge shared is very much appreciated.
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tone
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Reged: 06/29/03
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i mixed them before and thought it was a little stange. cant explain anymore. i dont really like hydrocodone. i prefer just pure tramadol so i havent tried to mix them more than 2 or 3 times.
if tramadol were started the day after hydrocodone was stopped, or until as long as you could bare withdrawl, i doubt their would be any interaction, especially if its 2 or 3 days after hydro stopped. taking them both at the same time in the same day is another story which i cant say much on, other than i thought i had a little headache later into it and felt a bit strange.
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royj
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Ikeep a supply of tramadol on hand.When the pain isnt real bad i'll take 2 ,anything less dont seem to help.If your pain is ever really mild they work well when you take 100mg.I've never had a problem taking the 2 on the same day.Only problem with ultram is it keeps me awake
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apkjezebel
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Reged: 03/01/04
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So it is safe to take the two together? I asked my dr for tramadol for days i don't feel the need for hydro, he said no because it up's the seizure rate. But my mom's dr will give her tramadol and vicoden. My dr told me that i would have to be weaned completely off the hydro before i could take tramadol. I'm confused, lol.
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tone
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im not really sure that it ups the seizure rate because it says right there in the prescribing info for tramadol that high doses of tramadol are a seizure risk and that using Naloxone in such a crisis actually made it WORSE... so if someone had too much tramadol and are having a seizure episode, giving that person an opioid blocker made the whole situation actually worse.
its tramadol's other mechanism, the monoamine mechanisms of it, that makes it convulsive.
of course coincidentally high doses of opioids also sometimes cause seizure but this is a seprate thing thats nothing compared to tramadols convulsiveness fromt he monoamine mechanism. thus some doctors could get confused
yes i have mixed the two before and other people do it too...i just dont like to mix them, i like the effects of tramadol better than hydro and dont want any hydro effect mixed in. anyway i dont know how safe it is to mix them
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apkjezebel
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Tone, thank you for your reply. I want to take the tramadol on days when the pain doesn't warrant the hydro. And i need to give my liver a break from the apap. I've been on lortab 10/500 off and on for two years. I wouldn't mix the two, just because i know that tramadol can cause seizures. I have taken it before with no problems, i just don't get why my doc tells me that but my mom's has no problems giving her both. I dunno, i've come to the conclusion that my doc is a quack anyway, lol. Which is why i'm on here ordering from op's, they actually prescribe enough to keep me mostly out of pain. But again, thank you for answering. 
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Amber18
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Reged: 11/14/03
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Loc: Midwest
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I once had a doc give me both, I took 3 a day of both Ultram and Vics. alternating them. worked out well for me at that time.
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mistya
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I take Ultram on days when my pain level is low. I take hydro on days where my pain is high. I also have combined the the two with no problem, but I do know there is caution in doing so.
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