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Karma2678
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Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash?
      #151567 - 03/30/04 06:17 AM

I was wondering my mother has been prescribed Hydrocodone for about 4 months now. Her usage is not very high she takes 2 per day even though she is prescribed 4 daily. Recently for about a week now she is getting a rash on her skin. It is on her chest and comming up her neck and looks like it is climbing to her face. She is wondering if hydro could be causing the rash. I have seen that with your script there is a warning that says something about a skin rash and to discontinue using I believe. She is also started taking about a week or two ago an antibiotic for a kidney infection I thought maybe that could be causing it, because she has taken hydro for months and this has not happened before. But, I don't know as much as most of you. If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it. She is one of those types that does not see a doctor unless she is basically on her death bed. I just don't want to blow this off as nothing if maybe something could be really wrong. She has enough health problems, diabetes, cancer, and other problems. Thank you all.

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151571 - 03/30/04 06:34 AM

I also get a rash on my chest while taking hydro. I t hasnt moved to my face though. It is pretty localized and a minor annoyance at worst. Later Tilly

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151576 - 03/30/04 06:56 AM

An allergic reaction to hydrocodone would have been seen only a few hours after dosing the first pill. I have a SEVERE allergy to codeine and there was NO DOUBT that the all-over-my-body rash that itched so badly I wanted to rip my skin off was an actual allergic response to codeine (T3's to be exact)...

If she is just now developing a skin rash, I would look at possible changes in detergents, diet, stress and other medication for the culprit IF the rash is an allergic reaction. It is also possible that she is developing a rash from a health issue (such as high fever, sore throat, etc. I had Scarlet Fever when I was 16 and was so very ill I couldn't get out of bed AT ALL and it is accompanied by a telltale sandpaper-like rash.)

If her pain isn't too bad, perhaps she should try not taking her pain pills for a few days and see if the rash clears up? Even if it does, though, it could be coincidence. So I guess I would just call the doctor and make an appointment and get to the bottom of it quickly and set aside your worries about the cause.

Best of luck!

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151578 - 03/30/04 07:07 AM

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my mother has been prescribed Hydrocodone for about 4 months now




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She is also started taking about a week or two ago an antibiotic for a kidney infection




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Recently for about a week now she is getting a rash on her skin.




It is very unlikely the rash has anything to do with hydrocodone, given what you've said, especially since it was well-tolerated for 4 months prior to this.

She got the rash just about the same time as starting this antibiotic. Mind telling us what antibiotic it is?

I'd be extremely surprised if you took her to the doctor and he said it was not most likely related to the antibiotic (he doesn't know for sure).

The only other thing I can think of is that one of her other health problems- diabetes, cancer, the kidney condition- is making what might have only been a very insignificant rash bigger. Without knowing what other meds she's on and more about her condition, this would be impossible to ascertain.

My advice: Almost guaranteed to be related to the antibiotic (still curious to know what it is). Take her to the doctor before she gets too uncomfortable. Unless this is the only antibiotic than can treat her particular condition (unlikely), he'll switch her and give her a skin cream (Elocon is one of the best and strongest, but I don't know if that's contraindicated with whatever else she takes).

If she does get a steroid skin cream, make sure to ask the doctor what effect it will have on her diabetes. It could potentially raise her blood sugar, depending on the severity on her diabetes and insulin regimen.

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151613 - 03/30/04 09:08 AM

I would definately agree with Yawkaw, who incidentally seems to know more than I have learned in the last 3 years of medical school. The anti-biotic would be the first to raise suspicion, however it depends on what is being ingested with the ABX, how old the ABX are, and end organ function (i.e. ability to metabolize)

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Mapleseep]
      #151633 - 03/30/04 10:16 AM

This sure does lead the suspiscion to the antibiotic. Many, many individuals have reactions to this type of medication and with the previous use of the pain medication without reaction, how or why would anyone point to it?

This brought out an old memory of mine though. My doctor, after I developed a rash while on hydro, tried to point to the hydro and actually stopped the med. It really had nothing to do with Vicodin but was his way of stopping the medication.

The good ole doc had fallen under the "fear factor" of prescribing narcotics and began using any excuse to get his patients off these meds. To this day he will prescribe anything you ask for, at any time, that is NOT a narcotic.

How ridiculous!

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: PlyrLacy]
      #151763 - 03/30/04 08:32 PM

I have been asking my mom what was the type of antibiotic she was taking and she had originally thought it was Cipro, but it isn't it sounds like Cipro and contains sulfur. She threw away the bottle and put the meds in her daily medicine organizer box she keeps her meds in that (?).

The reason I was wondering if it was the hydro was just me reading the page the pharmacy sends you with the meds that list warning signs to watch out for and a skin rash was one of them so I was concerned. The rash is on her chest and neck and feels like alligator skin or sandpaper. She also is feeling very tired, and today when I spoke to her on the phone all of a sudden she had to hang up very fast to vomit. Then when I got here she was back to normal doing her daily routine, but fell asleep early. I am just very worried about her in general her blood sugar rises to over 300 and she refuses to take insulin she just takes glyburide. The only new medication she began taking is the antibiotic but she stopped taking it a day ago and this morning her rash had seemed to worsen. The hydro does make your itch and I was thinking maybe the antibiotic or something had caused a rash and the hydro made her itch and she scratched it alot and irriated it more. I don't know but am very thankful for all of your advice. I received a PM from someone saying for her to take zyrtec and that should clear it up. Any thoughts on that? She had some cortizone 10 cream and she put it on the rash and said it made it feel somewhat better. Again thank you all for your insight and advice, Yawyak (Ithink). You are a great help to this board. I read a post that you wrote where you expressed desire to leave the board. I just wanted to say I get so much valuable information from your post. Many times I do a search on just your username to read your informative post. It would be a tragedy to lose you! I hope as do many others you will reconsider and stick around. Don't let a couple of bad apples spoil it for the bunch. Thanks again.

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151770 - 03/30/04 09:09 PM

You must tell your mother's doctor she lets her blood sugar get to over 300. She does not have the ability to fight infection when this happens. All the antibiotics in the world will not help someone with a blood sugar that gets so high. High blood sugar also leads to kidney problems

She *MUST* start taking care of her blood sugar, testing regularly, and taking insulin. Glyburide is not a substitute for insulin, and in a lot of people gets less effective over time. I can't stress this enough. If she is uncomfortable with injecting insulin, then there should be a nurse doing it or an insulin pump.

Whoever told you to take Zyrtec likely had good intentions, but that is not the answer.

I would take her to the doctor tomorrow and discuss all of this with him. For one thing, the doctor's intended treatment of her kidney infection is likely useless now. That needs to be reevaluated. Print out this thread if need be.

Here are things you need to discuss:

1) The fact she is letting her blood sugar get dangerously high
2) The effect that high blood sugar has on her ability to fight infection
3) What the likely cause of the rash is, make sure you tell him it started around the same time as the antibiotic
4) An alternative antibiotic
5) If she could have a steroid cream like Elocon (given her diabetes, if she should even be on steroid creams), if that would be appropriate for this rash
6) A possible change in her insulin regimen, whatever it's supposed to be- maybe she can get on Lantus and then won't have to take as many shots, hard to say

You *MUST* be honest with the doctor about this. I know it's your mom and all, but an elderly uncontrolled diabetic is very dangerous. The blood sugar has to get under control- that will solve a few problems right off the bat.

I appreciate the kind words. If you want to pay me back, take your mom to the doctor tomorrow and we'll be even.

-yawkaw


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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: yawkaw3]
      #151810 - 03/31/04 05:37 AM

Thank you for your post I am going to sit down with my mom today and have this discussion with her. I will make sure she goes to the doctor. The thing that stops her is she has a personal care home for the elderly , she is 50 yrs. old. I manage the home but with my family I am not here as much as her, it is hard for her to get out and go anywhere without someone certified to stay here. I am going to stay here today with the people and call her doctor, print off the list you made and get this taken care about. Thank you for pointing out how important this is, she should not just let it go ignored and I will not allow it! Thank you.

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Re: Question about Hydro Causing A Skin Rash? [Re: Karma2678]
      #151988 - 03/31/04 06:02 PM

I thought I might just mention this also....i have heard of people becoming allergic to Ibuprofen ,Motrin and break out with a rash ALL over .This I have seen personally. The Dr. said all meds you can build up a tolerance and then breakout in a rash.....I have heard of people being allergic to Phenobarbital for seizures and it caused a 1st and 2nd degree burn... Just thought I would just put this suggestion out there.

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