emp
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Any sources for Cyclobarbital?
It´s hard to find!
Thankz for your help!
emp
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tem33
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I've been looking for a source also. If anyone finds one,please post the site or PM me. Thanks
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emp
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Why is it so hard to get this medication?
Many years ago I tried Pentobarbital and it was great: for Elimination and Efficiancy!
Please let´s still looking for sources!
Phenobarbital is not as effictive as Cyclobarbital in the short time-treatment.
If you want you can PM me.
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Listvoer
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You're very unlikely to find any barbs other than phenobarbital preparations, almost guaranteed, these days. The story is that barbs had too many dangerous side-effects and were abused too much so they came out with a slew of new benzodiazipines that are somewhat safer (yeah, right, i've been through forced benzo withdrawal...) and barbs have been mostly relegated to hospital/hospice, at least in the USA. I'm a major insomniac and have been looking for quality barbs for over a decade and the only (and few) places that I found that offered them were either SO highly priced that it was laughable, or the place was just a scam site trolling for suckers. If you find a source, i'd sure love to know about it because at this point all the benzos in the world (welll...) don't even give me a yawn, much less a night's sleep. Same goes for Ambien and Sonota, benadryl and elavil, and more nasty herbal concoctions than I care to recall with little success after a short period of use. Good luck, you may need it because there are plenty of shady folks out there who advertise such stuff but never deliver. And they always want cash or western union so there's very little safety-net...
Just my 2¢ after spending 1/3 of my life looking for these..
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emp
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Thanks for your answer.
I´ve seen it at bulgpharma long time ago and this guy (I think "alin" is his name) offered it, but not any more, only steorids for silly Schwarzeneggers.
So let´s find it together and maybe sometime somebody will have success, hopefully!
If I would be a chemist I would produce it for myself, because it should be not difficult to synthesize it fom barbituracid...but I don´t know it exactly. I haven´t ever understand this shitty chemistry in school!
But who knows...
Greetings
emp
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TwG
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Somewhat safer??? How often do people die from benzos alone? Very rarely, people usually only die when they mix benzos with other drugs. Also, don't forget that barbs produce tolerence with increased use, but the LD50 stays consistent.
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emp
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What do you mean? I want only a good feeling and a good sleep. I know there are some risks, but in my opinion it´s rarely harmless.
The dose is the magic and the one important thing, nothing else!!!
emp
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Listvoer
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Quote:
Somewhat safer??? How often do people die from benzos alone? Very rarely, people usually only die when they mix benzos with other drugs. Also, don't forget that barbs produce tolerence with increased use, but the LD50 stays consistent.
You're 100% correct, no need for the question-mark fit. I know the differences in barbs and benzos, the dangers, etc as I have the physical and emotional scars to prove it. I was just trying to give a simple explaination to what I thought was a simple question. I didn't think a side-by-side comparison of benzos vs barbs detailing what the LD50 of each might be and whether it's a floating point or fixed, what other chemicals or drugs potentiate them, etc. c'mon, relax. I was just giving a simplified answer.
As to nobody dying from benzos, from what i've read it is true that to overdose on a benzo alone is much more difficult than many other drugs, the opposite of barbs. OTOH, I think a lot of deaths (and major accidents) could be attributed to people who were on benzos and did stupid stuff like drinking & driving while on benzos (they DO boost your confidence & "make" you do things you'd never do otherwise. IME) or any other number of idiotic things people do when their inhibitions are reduced. I also know more than 2 people who wound up in the hospital from seizures induced by the cessation of xanax after a 2-year daily 2-4 MG daily dose 'habit'. It wouldn't exactly be correct to say that my friend died (he didn't in this case) from the benzos, but he wouldn't have had a seizure and wrecked his car (among a dozen other things) if not for the fact that he had been taking benzos. True, the cause was the stopping of the benzos, not the taking of them, but they were still involved. And i've known people who would never steal a single dollar while 'sober' pull all kinds of scams while on benzos. It seems to give some people the perception that they're perceived as better than normal, while everyone around them sees them as a stumbling idiot. (i'm talking about abusive use, not your normal doctor-recommended use and dosage).
The 2 chem families are enitely different animals, but both have dark sides that can really hurt you if you don't follow the directions closely. I hope this doesn't sound angry or flamish, it's not meant to be. I'm typing in a good mood with a on my face. This is just my experience over many decades, when barbs were still easily available (been thru those w/d's) and also have personally been down the benzo-w/d road to he11....
ChemsRus, you may be gone but you're not forgotten..
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ericap
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hi:
if anyone has any sources for this, can you pm me with them?
i'd like to get a good nights sleep too.
thanks,
ericap
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tem33
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ditto that pm
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emp
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me too please !!!
is there any hope out there?
good luck everybody!!!
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bango
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I really doubt it, I think the company stopped making it..it was one in Romania and one in bulgaria and i think both stopped..
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AbsynthesisX
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Okay so has anyone found a source? PM me PLEASE!
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emp
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Do you know the address for the romanian pharmacy?
maybe they deliver again now, who knows?
emp
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bango
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it was the Company not the pharmacy which stopped making it.
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AbsynthesisX
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Yeah what is that Romanian source? I know that BPG.BG the Bulgarian source doesn't offer it anymore. they stopped selling it a few weeks after I wanted to buy some. rats.
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emp
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Yes please say it what is that Romanian source?
emp
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bango
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like i said before there is no romanian source, i said cyclo was at some point made (MANUFACURED) by a Romania company, they didnt sell it to public..
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