DrugBuyers.Com: More Duragesic patch class 2 questions

Normally when I pop into the DB Website I read a little and then if something catches my eye or if I feel I would be able to help someone deal with their chronic pain by sharing personal stories about myself, and the pain journey I have been forced to embark upon, then without aout a doubt I will add my two cents.

In response to Kimbells comments regarding some of the more "senior" (so to say) drug buyer members being a bit testy and critical to many of the newer members, well I really just have to disagree with that statement.

If anything, I think that the people that have been here the longest have not only made DB what it is today, but they have also had to deal with their fair share of drug addicts posing as pain patients with the hopes of finding a way to feed their habits. Basically meaning pulling on the heart strings of the many members in order to get names, places, doctors, websites, etc. to give them the drugs they are after.

Basically, had these members not been cautious and a bit apprehensive with regard to these people, then Drug Buyers as we know it today would not exist. Instead it would be something much more like Best if kept off the board (I think thats the name).

So i really do believe the founders are to be respected (as ridiculous and ritualistic as that sounds. But really, if i post a question and I get a response from a member that has 600 posts under their belt along side a newer member with 30 posts to their name, I tend to be more inclined to believe the one with 600 before the other guy. I know that does not make sense, as that new guy could very easily have far more life experience with the topic at hand, but not knowing that and not knowing if I can completely trust them with something as important as my health, I tend to go with the person that has had enough experience here that even if they are not "experts" in the field i am inquiring about, chances are they have read something about it in the past and are able to draw from what they have learned and or read a while ago, leading me to beloieve that even though they are not an expert, they have surely been around long enough to have read several posts that must be similar to the question at hand. So whatever his response is, it is more likely it reflects the responses of many other DB Members that have long left this site.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, sorry for the tangent but I was just trying to be clear on all of that. Now, it is a completely different story when Kimbell said that many other members feel intimidated by some of the members that have been around awhile, and that they are just straight out argumentative just for the mere joy of being argumentative. That is NOT cool, and if that does happen then all I can say is just ignore it and move on. The more time we all spend responding to a comment made by someone in a post that was really intended to be directed at a different post which in turn leads the person to say something about the last post.........I think you get my point. Sooner than later people forget what the heck the disagreement was about in the first place, and this just causes hostility and makes those of us that had initially opened that thread because it was something we wanted to know the answer to as well, well it makes us much more conscious when picking the threads we want to spend our time reading in the first place, you know?

I mean of course I have been on the receiving end of a members wrath, and I may get pumped up and write something back, but the more I think about it, the more ridiculous it becomes. I mean come on people, we are on the internet, when did it ever become cool to get in an argument over the internet anyway? It seems pretty pathetic to me. I mean I have enough going on in my "non computer life" to keep me angry enough that I carry around several grudges of my own, why add my make believe friends to that list? HA HA. I am just foolin' with you, really. I do consider several people online here my friends, but when it comes down to it, what does typing mean comebacks to those that offended us really do? Of course except for giving us capral tunnel syndrome.

OK enough of that. I do want to add something about Kimbells post. Well I have to say that although Kimbell did say the fetynal had just started to help, it had been I believe 10 days until this finally happened. Well maybe it just took that long to get into her system, or maybe this is not the best drug for her.

As for the patch falling off in the shower or when swimming, I can not imaging a doctor telling you to just replace that patch with a new one. That throws off the entire mode of medication distribution through your skin. I was told by my doctor to put that medical tape all around the patch so it does not budge during my shower. It really helped. But ubfortunately it did not matter anyway since i ended up being allergic, as I mentioned above. But had it worked I too would have had to continually change the patches after each shower. With that tape on it, it will not budge for the 3 days it needs to be on. That being said, Kimbell, I am happy that you did finally get a bit of relief from the patch. Hopefully it will only get better for you. YAHOO!!

As for the comment that Kimbell seems to really be wanting the Oxycontin, well I have to but in here. I agree that her interest in trying it is obvious, but I do not believe her intentions are anything but honest. Even if she was hoping to try the oxy while the other med was working, does not mean a darn thing at all. Think about it. Oxycontin has gotten such press lately that even young kids know what it is. Before I was prescribed oxycontin I always just assumed it was the end of all ends. You know, I would be in a coma while on it and I would be in la la land. Even better, I would be PAIN FREE AT LAST!!! The more i heard about teenagers and adults alike getting addicted to the oxy the more I became curious about its effects. I figured something had to be up if all of these people were risking their personal freedom all while spending loads of cash for these things. What happens when taking them? Would my life change dramatically? Would it be TOO strong for me?

All of these things crossed my mind far before I was prescribed oxy. Heck the first time I took it I waited, and waited, and waited for something, anything, but sadly nothing really happened. I felt nothing different after taking the oxy then I did after taking the percocet or MS Contin, nada. But wait a second here, what is this I a m feeling, it seems oddly familiar... Oh ya, that would be my back pain, you know the same back pain I have been feeling all throughout EVERY treatment I have tried. So my doc uped my dose, and uped my dose, (of course this was spread out over several weeks) until we finally found a dose that woudl at least work better than most everything else i had been on before. However, no coma, no floating in the clouds, no la la land. Nope none of it. All I got was more pain relief and a gut full of poop (sorry to be so graphic there, but its true. Oxy made me more constipated than any narcotic ever!!!)

So I feel that by telling Kimbell that it looks more like she is just "wanting" to get the oxycontin, only makes her feel as though she has to defend herself. I mean i have heard of worse things happening in this world, or heck, in this chat room than someone feeling pain attempting to get what the public conceives to be the "strongest" pain medication.

I am happy that she is finally getting relief from the patch and I hope that means she is going to stick with it awhile because oxycontin is not fun at all. Really, it is SO expensive and as I said already, it really backs you up, and I am talking BACKS YOU UP, its like you just ate 14 boxes of grape nuts and someone just told you that you had to eat another 5, gulp, ewwww puke!!! It has been far worse than anything else I have been prescribed for this pain.
So kinbell, be careful and patient. If these patches work, leave them. Trust me, your life will be much easier.

But if you do not feel that you are getting adequate relief, then once again talk to your doc about it. Since he forgets all time, then the next time he mentions the oxycontin, instead of saying no like the times before, hold him to it. That way you will have a choice between the two. But if at that time you are getting relief from the patches dont satrt taking the oxy. But at least your doc will remember next time. I have also had a doctor with selective amnesia. Drove me nuts. I like you would also say NO when he would mention a certain med, (you know tryingto prove to him I was not just trying to get narcotics from him, and this was in high school at the OBGYN. and the narcotics were only for cramps. But I said no and then the next appt my cramps were worse so I said maybe i would try the darvacet now, and he was like, "What darvacet, what are you talking about, I do not prescribe darvocet for painful cramps" Um, what? Freak!

Lastly.....I did want to tell Night Shade that it is possoble to be on fetynal and morphine and not get the kind of pain control that most doctors would automatically assume patient taking them would get. I for one am NOT a cancer patient, but have been prescibed these drugs before. Even more startling is I was slapping on 3-100 patches all while taking percocet for breakthrough. This concoction did not work well for me. As i have already said, I do believe i was allergic to the fetynal and I got a really bad rash anywhere I put it, but that still should not have stopped my body from absorbing it, right? Plus, I was taking percocet in conjunction with the patches and to my amazement, I was not feeling all that better.

I know you said everyone is different and that most docs would not prescribe the 2 drugs I listed above, umless they were cancer patients, well I am living proof that they do. Even better, I was believed when I explained this phenomenon and was told that the fetynal just does not work for some people and i musy be one of those people/ Maybe Kimbell is too, even though it has started to help a little because by now it should be helping much more than a little, or else thats what I would assume.

We are all different (thank God) we all react differently to different chemical entering my body. I mean for crying out loud. The scariest thing about it is when these patches just did not seem to work for my pain, even when i would wait almost 3 days, I just got frustrated and would put another one on (I had them in 25's, 50's, etc) So at one point i believe I could have easily had over 550-600 of that fetynal on me, and that STILL DID NOT WORK. It was not until later down the line that I found out that could have killed me. Oh my gosh, scary. I did know it was probably stupid, but at least I now know how meds are different in each person. Wow, that still freaks me out to this day.

ANYWAY, sorry all fo the length, I dont think I was born to write a small not. Its almost impossible.

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Flea