night_shade
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I just thought I'd share my experience today as it is such a positive experience with my family doctor and quite hard to believe considering the narcotics paranoia prevalent among most physicians these days.
As most of you know, my personal physician has been prescribing methadone to me for well over a year on a detox regimen from the methadone maintenance program that I attended for 7 years prior to my doc taking over. Not only did he risk the methadone prescriptions, he successfully argued his right to treat me with methadone for detoxification purposes to the powers that be.
Anyway, after getting down to a low dose of methadone, my pain issues intensified greatly and I was referred to a pain clinic recently for evaluation. The pain clinic decided to use methadone for my pain and increased my doses substantially. When the PM doc wrote for the methadone, he asked me to inform my physician of this and to stop getting methadone from my primary doctor. (Of course, to cover his own behind, he called my doctor himself to report the change in dose and prescriber.) Another condition was that I return the remaining liquid methadone to my regular doctor for disposal.
Since I brought my kids in to my doctor today, I decided to bring the left-over methadone with me and have him dispose of it (or whatever they do with returned prescriptions???)
My doctor was so casual about the whole thing and offered me to just keep it. He said "I trust you to use it appropriately." But I refused, as I did not want anything to interfere with my pain management prescription issuance. He simply dumped it down the sink in the room the kids and I were in and asked if it was OK to throw the bottle in the garabge in the same room (privacy, just in case a nosy patient started thumbing through the trash.)
I was taken aback by that easy-going demeanor considering most doctors are so paranoid about possible abuse, etc. So, to everyone who hasn't found a good doctor yet--THEY DO EXIST!!!
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tone
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Whats a 'narcotic' med? you mean opioids? they are hardly 'narcotic' what a misnomer. don't you just hate the term THEY assigned to painmeds?
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Herby
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Thats great. I'm HAPPY for ya tone.
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Trampy
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Whats a 'narcotic' med? you mean opioids? they are hardly 'narcotic' what a misnomer.
look it up in a dictionary.
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trex
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Why is it almost every time I read a post from Tone I get the feeling he's trying to pick a fight!!!!
Your a complete moron!!!
If you have nothing productive to say!, say nothing!!
Do us all a favour!!!! 
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JOJOM
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AGREE, AGREE, AGREE!
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JOJOM
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One more thing, if you are TRYING to be funny, no one is laughing.....
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misspiggy
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I just want to say I am very happy for you Night Shade!
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kittie74
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Whats a 'narcotic' med? you mean opioids? they are hardly 'narcotic' what a misnomer.
UM - Tone? Next time, before you criticize another poster, perhaps you should pull out the good old Webster's and check your information:
opi.ate (adj.) 1: containing or mixed with opium 2 a: inducing sleep: NARCOTIC b: causing dullness or inaction
opi.oid (adj.) 1: possessing some properties characteristic of opiate NARCOTICS but not derived from opium 2: of, involving, or induced by an opiod substance or an opiod peptide
[my apologies to all: this was not meant to start flame war, but i just couldn't resist.]
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tone
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ill explain the subtile meaning of my earlier post/comment. the government's classification of mu agonists being "narcotics" is stupid propaganda. i was dissing this classification term.
Narcotic original meaning: 'Inducing sleep or stupor; causing narcosis.'
Narcosis: 'A condition of deep stupor or unconsciousness produced by a drug or other chemical substance.'
Normal and high doses of opioids cause relaxed stimulation, increased energy, focus. i suppose overdoses could be termed as being narcotic, but then again, overdoses of thousands and thousands of drugs are also narcotic in effect. i find opioids to be far from 'narcotic' in effects, cant even go to sleep on them. mu agonists cause dopamine release in the midbrain. narcotic is a horrid misnomer for opioids. stupid government propaganda
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tone
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hi kittie, i wasnt aware that i critized another poster in this thread, please show me the quote where i critized someone so i can learn a lesson and not have it happen again. im not in the business of critizing any individual. please take care and be pain free.
tone
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kittie74
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Tone - if you re-read your post, it's not clear that you were criticizing the 'government's classification'. It looks like you were attacking another poster. You did read all the other responses to your post before mine? We all said the same thing.
I have read many of your posts on here and oftentimes it looks like you're 'putting down' what others have to say. I'm not the first to point this out. It's a general rule of most boards that you don't attack others. We're all in the same boat here - in pain, dealing with pain. Can't we all just get along?
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night_shade
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Anyway, I had to jump in here too.
Narcotic has come to be the umbrella term for any mood-altering chemical--whether it is prescription or illicit.
If I understood Tone correctly, s/he was being facetious about the fact that the word narcotic seems to have developed a "bad" connotation. In connection with my post and the usual paranoia surrounding these types of prescription drugs, I saw the connection (and the attempt at commiseration.)
Well, at least that's how I took the post to mean anyway.
So hopefully I am correct in my interpretation and the minor flame burning in this thread will be extinguished.
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tone
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thats exactly what i meant =) and actually the term is literally inaccurate as well
im even in a worse mood now that i saw on the news more propaganda about online pharmacies just now, can we all go make our own country somewhere?
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So hopefully I am correct in my interpretation and the minor flame burning in this thread will be extinguished.
.....so we can get moving on the next flame burn on the next thread. 
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uga81
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Tylenol PM could be considered a narcotic.
Barney
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Adrenaline
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When I read tones statement I did not think he was criticizing anyone. I knew what he was saying...though I don't know how his history is on these boards. Not that anyone cares what i think about this particular issue..just threw my 2 cents in because I honestly don't think he was trying to bother anyone in this particular instance. Sorry if I bothered anyone.
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mpcagh
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Tylenol PM could be considered a narcotic.
Barney
Excellent point...........that stuff does knock you out! Well since it induces sleep and is therefore a "narcotic", they better put it on the controlled list! I can honestly say I wouldn't be that surprised.......
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rkjones
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Good for you! I am so glad you had a positive experience and left feeling good about yourself! that is half the pain battle to me! I just want to be trated fairly and I deserve that! Just the fact that your doctor stated he trusted you to appropriately keep it, meant and said alot! When I am in pain I get so down on myself about my meds and the need for them so Any conformation from my doctor that he feels I am in control or trusted helps me to feel better mentally and physically.
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anew
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I think Tone's posts have a unique 'tone' to them and are easily misinterpreted. Just my opinion.
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karib
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that is how i took it too,i didn't feel you were trying tto insult anyone. I think we are all kind of feeling the same way about the FDA, the government etc......
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karib
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i wouldn't be surprised if they blacklisted those of us who buy tylenol pm!
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kittie74
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Okay - my apologies to Tone. I misunderstood. It wasn't clear to me, but I guess it was to others. I didn't mean to be so harsh, but after re-reading my post, now I feel bad. That's the problem with posting, sometimes the point you're trying to get across isn't clear to everyone.
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tone
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dont buy tylonal PM. the stuff in it to help you sleep is diphenhydrmaine, it also has APAP. just get 400 diphenhydrmaine pills for $2.99 at costco. each pill = one tylonal PM
sorry im real bitter about the DEA, FDA, Nazis, etc got to make my posts cynical in a different way than i did
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