Curtisd3
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Does anyone know why an injection of this drug worked so well for me--my back was like jelly for 5 days afterward. It's the only thing that has completely alleviated tension. Is there a pill, narcotic or otherwise that will do the same thing? I have a PM appt. Wednesday that I'm a bit anxious about. I'm freaked out because if I go in asking for specific drugs, he'll (and he is a guy) send me on my way with no help. So I guess there are several questions here.
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beansforyou
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I don't think you would have too much to worry about. Toradol isn't a narcotic so I can't imagine a doc would be overly hesitant to prescribe it if it helped. However, it is a VERY powerful NSAID and can only be taken for a few days at a time (5 days or so) so if you have a condition that requires a long amount of pain relief, it might not be the best option. Areas for concern are like any other NSAID - stomach bleeding, liver etc.
It does come in pill form, although its not as potent as the injection. I was prescribed toradol for a problem I have with my SI joint. This wasn't as helpful as the injection I was recently given while I was in the hospital for a whopper headache.
I would imagine you had so much relief b/c its comparable to morphine, in its ability to dull out pain. However, it differs in that its non-narcotic, so I wouldn't think discussing this with your docotor would raise any flags or give you any reason to be embarassed/worried. Hope this helps!! Let me know how your appt goes!
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Curtisd3
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If I understand you correctly, the only thing in pill form that's going to work like the injection is morphine. I'd go for that, but the doc might not. I guess everyone is in the same boat. Thanks for your input! Keep 'em coming!
Sincerely,
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zoe11
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The injections work as well as morphine, but the pills are useless. It really sucks. I had toradol after surgery once and loved it. It doesn't make you drowsy in the least. It's a shame that the pills don't work like the injections. I wished that we could take it home and inject it ourselves.
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Zowie
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I was prescribed Toradol IM in the injectable form about 3 years ago by my neurologist. The kit came with six prefilled needles but I would only get up enough nerve to inject myself two times (IM). Everytime I would get ready to inject (after twice doing so) my subconscious would stop me. It worked well for the headaches but I was to big of a chicken so ended up disposing of the other 4 prefilled needles.
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Curtisd3
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So, what did you end up doing--what pain medication approximated the relief you gained from IM Toradol? There's got to be something out there.
Sincerely,
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meowsie
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I cannot give myself injections, but if you find a good friend or family member willing to do it, then it is MUCH easier! It's worth the trouble if it is the only thing that really helps
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Zowie
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I would have had my family do it - but I am the bravest one in the house - LOL - they all would run and hide. I am not lying it would take me up to 30-45 minutes to get enough nerve to give myself the shot. It ever really hurt - it was just the thought of it -- all psychological. It was a big needle (to me anyways). To answer Chris's questions my neurologist switched me to Norco. Oral Toradol is really dangerous as you can bleed out before you even know you have a problem. It was up for discussion a few years back about taking the oral dose off of the market but they never did -- just attached a warning label on bottle -- that is there answer to everything -- a warning label. My neurologist did try me on Imitrex before the Norco but it put me into uncontrollable tachycardia and I ended up on a Rescue Squad headed to Duke University where I spent 2 weeks of hell and have been on heart meds ever since. Zow
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zoecece
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I had a torodol injection for a SI joint problem, and by the time I walked out of the DR's office, I was standing upright and pain free. I had a horrible side effect though, I couldn't keep food in for three days. This medication is a SUPER DUPER anti inflamitory, and posters are correct, the oral form is not particularly effective. My Dr said that you can't use it very often, but I have no idea what the specifics are. If you can tolerate it, I would ask for it as often as possible.
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Curtisd3
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I was a little naseous too, but not for 3 days afterward. I have a very high tolerance for drugs--maybe because I used quite a few many years ago in a different life. I guess my real question is are there pill forms that has given anyone the extraordinary relief this injection offerend. I'm a little concerned with liver side-effects.
Thanks!
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Curtisd3
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From what Zowie said, Norco may be the answer.
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Zowie
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My Dr said that you can't use it very often, but I have no idea what the specifics are.
Zoe, is absolutely right you cannot use the Toradol injectable on a daily basis - My neurologist had prescribed Floricet with codeine and Toradol injection in conjunction with the Floricet/codeine when I could not break the headache - but I could not use the Toradol injection more than twice a week. After I gave up on injecting myself - he switched me to the Norco - as he said that would be stronger and more than likely break the headache - if not I was to come to the ER and get the Toradol injection. I would take a Toradol injection over Demerol anytime -- Demoral wipes me out completely. Thank goodness as I grow older -- my headaches are becoming less -- but a herniated slipped disc showed up about a year ago along with the severe spinal stenosis and we will not even discuss the arthritis -- I guess I am going to hell in a hand basket on the fast track.
If it did not hurt so bad to get out of the bad in the morning it would be FUNNY - with all the moves I have to make just to get my feet on the floor and standing up straight in the morning -- it is a 3-4 step process after my feet finally hit the floor before I can stand straight -- so much for old age - I guess the good times have just begun. Zow
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Ketorlac, is the Mexican version, of Toradol. I found that it doesn't work nearly as well as the injection version.
Its relatively inexpensive there, and sold OTC there, approximately 7us. Its a regime that you would only continue for 5 days tops. Its a good anti-inflam, and for the treatment that I am undergoing, works extremely well.
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zoecece
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I also know that toradol is safe for kids and migraines too (just FYI). I wasn't particulalry nauseous, I had horrible diahrrehea for THREE days, everythig ran right through me, and in a really BAD way. The effect of the drug lasted about 12 hours, to the side effects wern't worth pursuing toradol as therapy, BUT, if I was in really bad shape, couldn't break the pain cycle, I would probably go for it again and get a visteral (or something) shot with it.
So that's how I would recommend the drug, as a last ditch effort to break a pain cycle, because it most definitely will give you relief if you deal with inflamation/osteoarthritis.
I didn't get great relief with demoral, actually, and i asked for the high does. I't cut the pain down but it didn't completely get rid of it.
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cloudy
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I had a shot of toradol when I had a cyst on an ovary burst and I believe they gave me demerol also. I'll tell you, that combo worked wonders!!! I know I used to get Imitrex in pre-filled injections. Maybe they will start making this form more available. I didnt even know they had an injectable form available by prescription, until I read that post. If anyone has used one of these pre-filled meds, its really not that big of a deal. you dont even see the needle and it does look like a pen. You just put it where the instructions tell you and click a button on top. The needle comes out of the pen and then automatically injects the med into your muscle.
I do remember the Toradol making me very tired. Maybe thats why it isnt given that much. They could be afraid of liability.
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rkjones
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I have kidney stones and whenever i go to er in pain they give me toradol. Usually they give it in conjunction with bup or demerol however i was given it once by itself when i was in extreme pain and it worked. They have tried that since then (alone) and i don't really get much relief. I now make it a point to tell them do not give me toradol please as it makes me have diarrhea, heartburn and the worst stomach i have ever had! I too had been given a scrip for the pills and they did not help with any pain relief.
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ClasiAnFun1
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Yes, oral Toradol is very dangerous. My Dr being so afraid of addiction, told me to take oral toradol, 3 times a day & not knowing then what I know now...I did it for 6 weeks. I did end up in ICU & now have permanent injury/damage to stomach & esphogus from Toradol. I have heard wonderful things about Toradol shots, with excellent relief, and no side effects that I had.
So a Dr trying to be conservative, cover her butt or whatever, did major damage to me.
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Zowie
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I now make it a point to tell them do not give me toradol please as it makes me have diarrhea, heartburn and the worst stomach i have ever had!
That is exactly is what the Demerol does to my stomach. I guess everyone is different. I have never had no bad side effects from the Toradol injection but I definitely would not take Toradol by mouth at anytime. They should have taken the oral dose off the market a long time ago.
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auto55059
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I've taken toradol pills--- worked great for me. Much better than norco or morphine pills. It did make me drowsy though. Every time. Definitely seemed to not be a placebo effect... I took it many different times, not regularly, and it always made me sleep for a couple hours. Or maybe is was just being out of pain for a while made me able to sleep....
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