charlijo
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i'm new to this. found out about online meds in september. so far i guess i've been lucky. expediameds, now expmeds has been very reliable for me. i usually receive my order within 7 to 10 days. the meds r good quality too. one of the pharmacies buymeds used out of houston(naturally yours pharmacy) sent either really outdated or phony meds. 
this site has been very interesting. i see i'm definitely not alone in my mis-treatment of pain. i'm so thankful for u all.  speaking out will be the only way to change the way society deals with our problem.
i'm glad to be "meeting" u all. 
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Ozzi
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THis is not an international Pharmacy.
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JOJOM
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Yes,
This is the wrong forum for this, my best friend just ordered from Buymeds and she said the pharmacy was in houston and they are the real thing, she looked it up on rxlist, they are 7.5, 750 but they did nothing for her so I think they are really old, they do say watson and they are usually the best generic but she had to take 2 and still nothing!
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woolius
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Hmm... Watson hasn't manufactured generic hydro for a few years now, so I bet they were really old.
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prettyday
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http://www.watsonpharm.com/new/index.asp
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hoop123
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Received a sealed bottle of Watson brand 10/325 just a coule of weeks ago. It is generic to Norco. definetetly said Watson on the container and was sealed by the manufacturer.
Best Regards,
Hoop
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Spectre13
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As evidenced by what?
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Spectre13
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While it probably was the real thing, it should be realized that professional looking labels, bottles, and the heat sealing equipment used thereupon is available to everyone, including counterfeiters.
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hoop123
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Spectre 13,
My reply was really intended to Woolius regarding that Watson has not made generics for some time. The point I made , and I've been in the Heathcare field 26 years, is that they do make generics. The bottle I was reffering to was definitely no counterfit. The indications regarding the quality of the label, the sealing of the bottle and most importantly the contents all lead me to believe the bottle is the real deal. But that is secondary to the reply that watson does not make generics. It certainly does. I only used the bottle as a reference. Most posts on the op's that receive hydro all say they received the watson yellow #853 marking. Which is genenric Norco. They also are the manufacturer of NORCO and the pill, except markings , look the same. That's all. Sorry for the conusion.
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Hoop
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Spectre13
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Quote:
(naturally yours pharmacy) sent either really outdated or phony meds.
They were probably just Mallinckrodts. I recently received such a batch from NYP (a BuyMeds order). Tolerance issues aside, Mallies seem less effective for some than for others. Rate of onset seems to be a factor. I personally find them just as potent as Watson. And while fakes could be out there, the concept of outdated hydro doesn't jell with the fact that multiple tons of it are consumed everyday. Shortages have been reported. It seems the only old hydro is forgotten hydro.
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Spectre13
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No confusion really, like I said, they were probably genuine. I too have called woolius on his assertion that Watson ceased making generic hydrocodone.
My point is that a heat-sealed bottle really isn't a sign of authenticity. An immaculate copy from packaging to product is within the reach of any determined counterfeiter. Unless the product is analyzed for the proprietary tracers used by some manufacturers, the end user can really never know.
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hoop123
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Spectre 13,
Thanks for the comment. I think if I were to couterfit a drug it would be Viagra. Man 10 buckls a pill. What a lot of cash Pfeizer ( don't think I spelled that right.) is rolling in. As for most pain meds, in reality they are the cheapest. Many years ago for my treatment my pain specialist put me on Buprenex. Very expensive. Inittially not covered under insurance. 600.00 for a months supply. After talking to my Insurance carrrier, for which I pay the premiums out of my business, I asked what can we do about it. The answer would astound you. They said try and have him prescibe morphine, this is so much cheaper and will be covered under youre policy. Which by the way was the best policy they offerred. Can you imagine, morphine. Well I did ask, but you know the answer. Be thankfull for what I'm giving you , the Almighty said. And I went on paying. Still would like a piece of the Viagra. I know this is off topic and apologize.
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Hoop
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zeuzjuz
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Woolius,
Just to clear things up - I DO understand why you thought that (that Watson had 'stopped manufacturing generic hydro/apap) -
There was alot of talk on this board as well as others about 2 years ago - that Watson was going to stop manufacturing Hydro/APAP (just the generics) - It was not 'hear-say' - there was a news article posted about it, as well as info on the Watson website about it. Many here (to say the least  ) were very dis-heartened by this info, and upset. (As that would mean Mallie and Vintage would have become the 'big two' generic manufacturers of hydro, and Watson would not be an option unless you bought the name-brand - VERY expensive!!) -
However, Watson changed their minds about this - it never happened. They do indeed still manufacture generic hydrocodone - people here have been receiving it (fresh not old) for years, all the way up until the present (and they are still manufacturing it) -
When the decision to 'change their minds' happened, there was also a news article posted about that, although it is probably lost deep and dark in the archives of the posts here now..... Just wanted to clear up the reason Woolius thought that. It WAS a decision that was 'on the table' but it never happened. I guess they realized how much money they would lose, considering hydro/apap is in the Top #3 medications prescribed in the whole U.S (by number of tablets dispensed) - Check here:
http://www.rxlist.com/top200.htm
(Wow, just realized it has taken over the spot as #1 - It is THE most prescribed medication in the whole United States)
This is probably due mostly to accidents/injuries and not chronic pain conditions..... Wow, guess we are an 'accident-prone' country, to say the least! 
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hoop123
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zeuzjus,
Just checked back to 2000, 2001 and 2002 it was also the #1 prescribed med. 1999 it was the 5th most prescibed. Most immpressive. Don't really know what it means except like you said we are a nation of accident prone painful people. Also I believe the mean life expectency may play a role as the older folks devlop more painful diseases. Just a guess. 2003 numbers are not available but I bet it still is #1. That being said I still cannot understand why most MD's are reluctant to prescribe. And why after surgerys and needles jabbed into my knee and countless hours of PT my MD still will not prescribe it. So I belive in places like this. All my $1000.00 MRI's show the problem. The Dr. Here went over them extesively and feels opiate therapy given what is seen and what has happened is the best course. Got off topic , sorry. But it raises a lot of questions that for almost four years it is the med of choice. Thanks for the insight.
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Hoop
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Spectre13
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I'm glad you posted that. I've never even heard of Watson considering such a move. It would've probably bit them in the butt eventually. Additionally, hydro being in the number one slot should effectively dispel any notions of old stock sitting around.
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Spectre13
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Viagra would indeed be a logical choice for any counterfeiter at such a steep price per unit. I agree that hydro, etc., can be dirt cheap down at the average local pharmacy. Of course, everything changes here in OP land when it can go for up to $3 or $4 per dose. At that point it becomes an attractive target for counterfeiting. With regard to switching to morphine, it might have been helpful to get the recommendation in writing and subsequently show it to the doc. He may have treated it differently. I don't know what it is with some docs. Maybe he's getting a kickback.
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Spectre13
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Just sounds like yet another Doc who is afraid of his own shadow. I recently noticed they removed the "Pain Management" heading from the "Find a Doc" feature at my local hospital's web site. While the pain docs remain under other headings, the open notion of pain management has just vanished. It's a sorry state of affairs, especially in the political climate where I live ("Cecil Knox" is a household phrase in this area).
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JOJOM
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I just checked Watson website and the ones she received are on there and still being manurfactured. I just think she may have received a not so fresh batch, that is all.
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Hipnotik
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so how's the service?
how's the consultation?
do they require medical records?
looking at their site they seem really pricey.
thanks!
Hip
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zeuzjuz
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looking at their site they seem really pricey
My vote for 'Understatement of the Year Award'
I know this is not very helpful to your cause, but all factors aside, would you really pay those prices??? You must be a wayyyyy richer man than I am. 
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