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delacort
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Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions"
      #129322 - 01/15/04 04:05 PM

The Washington Post article "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions," prevously posted lead to some Letters to the Editor which were recently printed, including one from the DEA. I thought the letters might be of interest.

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Pain Doctors: Unfairly Targeted by the DEA?

Thursday, January 8, 2004; Page A22


Regarding the Dec. 29 front-page story "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" by Marc Kaufman:

When will our nation learn to deal in a sane and humane manner with those suffering from chronic or unbearable pain?

A mere four hours before her death, after a protracted battle with cancer, my mother's oncologist denied her request for morphine. He told me over the phone, and I quote, "It is not yet time for that."

Was he worried that she might become "addicted" in the short time remaining to her? Or, as Mr. Kaufman's article might suggest, was he concerned about investigators questioning his judgment regarding the prescription of a narcotic to a terminally ill patient?

Neither concern was of any importance to my mother as she gasped her last breaths without the relief that modern medicine is capable of delivering.

How discouraging that three years later, the situation appears to be worsening.

KENNETH B. HAINES
Beltsville

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Marc Kaufman's article on the persecution of pain doctors by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) raised the question of whether that agency should be regulating physician medical practice. If a physician has to worry whether some bureaucrat from the DEA is going to be looking over his or her shoulder and questioning every dose of analgesic prescribed, a lot of people are going to suffer.

As a person who lost both parents to cancer, I know that control of pain can be the greatest gift a physician can make at the end of life. As a physician who has worked with cancer patients and patients with severe chronic pain, such as sickle cell disease, I know that the control of severe chronic pain can be a difficult clinical challenge. Individual tolerance of narcotics varies, and some people require large doses of narcotics as well as other methods to control pain.

Medical practice is generally the responsibility of the state medical boards. Many state boards, including the District's, require separate narcotics licensing in addition to the federal DEA number. Perhaps the DEA should focus on illegal drug use and refer questions of legal medical practice to the professional boards.

PETER F. BROSS
Gaithersburg

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Marc Kaufman's article about Drug Enforcement Administration investigations of physicians said the DEA is "targeting pain doctors who write frequent narcotics prescriptions." This implicitly embraces the quoted suggestion of an advocate that medical "ambiguity" is being "turned into allegations of criminal behavior." This is not the case.

The DEA does not investigate physicians merely for prescribing large volumes of narcotic drugs. It will, however, investigate when credible evidence indicates that a physician is prescribing in bulk outside established boundaries of legitimate medical practice set by his or her peers.

Second, Mr. Kaufman's story gave little explanation of the compelling reason why such investigations have become an enforcement priority for the DEA: Lives are at stake. The Post itself recently published a five-part series on the rapid growth of drug diversion and fraud it described as "creating a wide-open drug bazaar that endangers public health" [front page, Oct 19-24].

The DEA is committed to effective diversion enforcement and will continue to responsibly protect patients and communities from the costs of narcotics abuse.

KAREN P. TANDY
Administrator
Drug Enforcement Administration
Washington





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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: delacort]
      #129328 - 01/15/04 04:31 PM

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The DEA does not investigate physicians merely for prescribing large volumes of narcotic drugs. It will, however, investigate when credible evidence indicates that a physician is prescribing in bulk outside established boundaries of legitimate medical practice set by his or her peers.

Second, Mr. Kaufman's story gave little explanation of the compelling reason why such investigations have become an enforcement priority for the DEA: Lives are at stake . The Post itself recently published a five-part series on the rapid growth of drug diversion and fraud it described as "creating a wide-open drug bazaar that endangers public health" [front page, Oct 19-24].

The DEA is committed to effective diversion enforcement and will continue to responsibly protect patients and communities from the costs of narcotics abuse.

KAREN P. TANDY
Administrator
Drug Enforcement Administration
Washington





I beg to differ. "Lives are at stake" ... YES! They ARE at stake. The lives and quality of those lives of many thousands of people who are undermedicated or unmedicated due to DEA intimidation of medical professionals. Medical PROFESSIONALS who undergo at least TEN years of post-secondary education to train in the practice of medicine. Medical professionals whose practice IS pain management. Those physicians who prescribe much larger quantities of controlled drugs than their "peers" who do not specialize in the treatment of chronic and intractable pain.

I have to wonder if the DEA's involvement in policing physicians is the direct result of the failure of the "war on Drugs" policy. Who better than licensed, highly visible medical DOCTORS who must register their practices, pass state medical board exams and keep full records of their medical practices available to any authority? A captive audience openly subject to scrutiny by any Joe-Schmoe wearing a DEA badge (with what--maybe an undergraduate degree hanging on his or her wall?) who feels they are an authority on the subject of "appropriate and correct prescribing practices?"

Yeah, lady (KAREN P. TANDY)...go tell it to one of the sheep in your department who bleats when you order them to. THIS citizen isn't just another of the flock!

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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: night_shade]
      #129348 - 01/15/04 05:42 PM

My doctor 2 years ago told me after an MVA and a severe back injury that he had to "watch what he prescribed for pain, as LE keeps track of what and how much".

Someone is lying, and I tend to believe my dr.

Jimbo

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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: okiedad777]
      #130035 - 01/18/04 10:12 PM

Like I need and want Karen P. Tandy protecting me from myself. I think my doctor and I are a better judge of my medical treatment, than Karen P. Tandy and the rest of those "crime fighters" cough, cough in the DEA.

I saw my mother in law die from colon cancer. The hospice gave my sister in law 2 injections worth of morphine to be given to her when death was approaching. They released them to her because she is an RN. TWO injectons? I could not believe it. Here the woman was vomiting blood, was struggling for every breath and she was saving the morphine for when it got REALLY bad because she was afraid to give it to her too soon lest she run out days before her death. All my MIL had on hand for pain control for the last 6 months of her life was Vicodin 5mg. I get Norco 10mg for my migraines for crying out loud.
If the DEA would stick its nose out of people's medicine chests, than people in need would not have to suffer with pain like they do. It was easier twenty years ago to obtain schedule 2 drugs for severe pain. We have now gone backwards in the area of pain management and I blame this on politics.

This kind of health "care" is disgusting. Compare the amount of acetominophen overdoses per year compared to prescription drug overdoses. The DEA doesn't seem to care about tylenol overdoses, and the resulting liver damage and deaths. They don't care about the number of people who end up in the ER with gastric bleeds from too many NSAIDS. Why not? Lives are at stake here. If a doctor prescribes NSAIDS instead of a narcotic, and the patient dies, I don't see the DEA stepping in. But when a doc prescribes narcotics, well lives are at stake, gosh darn it. Even though like I said, statistically narcotics are much safer, more effective, and have less side effects than Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Vioxx, large amounts of aspirin, etc....

I'll get off my soapbox now, but this makes me hopping mad. It should be a crime to withhold or severely limit the administration of narcotics to people in debilitating pain. It is cruel. There are laws on the books for withholding narcotics in lab animals. Where are the laws and what are the penalties for withholding them in humans?


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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: buey]
      #130084 - 01/19/04 09:20 AM

Fabulous post, buey!

I think the DEA ignores the problems resulting from apap and nsaids because these meds don't give people a buzz. God forbid that anyone should get a buzz unless it is from alcohol, of course.



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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: 2muchpain]
      #130118 - 01/19/04 12:20 PM

Hi, Isn't alcohol more deadley than hydro? Isn't it more abused? Go figure. Sbell

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Re: Letters to the editor in response to previously post article, "Worried Pain Doctors Decry Prosecutions" [Re: 2muchpain]
      #130158 - 01/19/04 02:25 PM

It's because of the drug scheduling. They don't give a flying leap about Tylenol or Advil becuase those are not "controlled" drugs.

Drug scheduling simply gave Big Brother just another avenue to get his hands in the pie.

Like I said in my first post on this subject, it has little to do with "protecting patients" and everything to do with the ease the DEA has in "investigating" doctors (all their information is easily attainable) and the failing "war on drugs" mentality. Drug lords on the streets are much harder to "get intelligence" on than doctors whose medical practices are virtual open books.

As in all cases, the Feds like easy cases. If you've ever sat on a Grand Jury, you'd see just how little ACTUALLY has to be proven to get an indictment. Then it becomes a case of slander until trial.

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