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fred2112
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FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way
      #124583 - 12/23/03 04:29 PM

I am so glad the Bush Administration's FDA is watching out for us poor unsuspecting consumers....



FDA on Canada drugs: 'No way'


By William M. Welch, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration warned Monday that states and cities seeking to import lower-cost drugs from Canada face legal action and financial liability.

Citing safety concerns, officials at the Food and Drug Administration and Health and Human Services Department used their strongest language yet in response to appeals by governors and mayors who hope to save money for governments and consumers.

"It's very clear it's absolutely illegal," said Peter Pitts, an FDA associate commissioner. "There's no way importing drugs not FDA-approved can be legal in any way or form."

At least 10 states have expressed interest in buying less-expensive Canadian drugs for state workers, retirees, prison inmates or citizens, or in helping direct consumers toward legitimate Canadian retailers. None has done so yet, but two cities — Springfield, Mass., and Montgomery, Ala. — are running programs. (Related item: Montogmery quietly saving about $500,000)

The Bush administration says imported drugs could be tainted, old or fake. Drug companies that charge higher prices in the USA fear imports could lead to price controls in this country.

The administration's warning followed a move to force Bush's hand on the politically volatile issue by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat. He requested a waiver to let the state buy drugs from Canada for state workers and retirees. He estimates it would save the state $91 million a year. The administration's response was an effort to keep the focus on safety, rather than let Democrats frame it as a consumer issue.

Administration officials said the request was sure to be rejected. Bill Pierce, spokesman for Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, said Thompson cannot certify the safety of imported drugs because they pass outside the FDA's scrutiny during manufacture or shipment. "They're going to have to break the law to do it," he said.

An overwhelming 71% of Americans in a recent USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll supported legalizing prescription drug sales from Canada, where the government negotiates prices with manufacturers.

The FDA contends it is illegal for U.S. citizens to purchase drugs from foreign sources. But they have told Customs officials to permit individuals to re-enter the country with up to 90-day supplies of drugs for personal use. A new Medicare law signed by President Bush this month maintains the prohibition on imports but authorizes the HHS secretary to conduct a study on the safety of Canadian imports.

Federal officials said any mayor or governor moving ahead with an importation program risks potential enforcement efforts. Tom McGinnis, FDA director of pharmacy affairs, said state and local officials could be regarded as "aiding and abetting" law violations. He said the FDA, acting through the Justice Department, could file civil lawsuits to halt drug imports.

McGinnis said states and cities could face criminal action and financial liability if anyone is harmed by imported drugs. He said FDA lawyers are telling states and cities, "If you do it, you're going to be at risk."

The FDA's threats previously prompted Springfield's supplier to close its U.S. offices. McGinnis said the agency hopes to persuade the incoming mayor, who takes office in January, to shut down the program.


USA Today FDA on Canada Drugs No Way


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summer
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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: fred2112]
      #124587 - 12/23/03 04:53 PM

Well it will be interesting to see what happens in Massachusets because I heard that the state is going to offer it's workers scripted meds that come in from Canada.
It was on Fox news this afternoon somewhere between 3&4-Studio B Shepard Smiths show. Like I said, we'll see.........
Summer


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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: summer]
      #124607 - 12/23/03 07:04 PM

darn it all!, bush must have found out that us canadians add poison to our drugs, so that any american looking to save some money on overpriced RX will die. cuz we are soo evil and love to kill people.


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Horace
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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: karmapolice]
      #124683 - 12/24/03 09:30 AM

Bush's administration could possibly make a convincing argument for the harm that could come from importing RX drugs from Mexico, but from Canada? Just another example of American arrogance.



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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: Horace]
      #124950 - 12/26/03 09:25 PM

Well President Clinton had a bill on his desk that he vetoed in his final days that would have legalized importation of drugs. It a party "neutral" for both Dems and Reps. neither as a whole want to legalize importation of drugs. Take care. Billylll

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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: Billyl]
      #125154 - 12/28/03 12:37 PM

Quote:

Well President Clinton had a bill on his desk that he vetoed in his final days that would have legalized importation of drugs. It a party "neutral" for both Dems and Reps. neither as a whole want to legalize importation of drugs. Take care. Billylll




It's just more propaganda by the "Hate Bush at any Cost" crowd. It crosses political lines and they can't admit it.

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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: fred2112]
      #128427 - 01/12/04 01:06 PM

Important Update
States v. FDA Regs RE: re-imporation from Canada

States are attempting to establish own guidelines for the re-importation of prescription meds from Canada. This move has been met with opposition by FDA which is likely to lead to more state-federal conflicts.

Despite FDA Stance, US States Move to Import Drugs From Canada
By Kim Dixon

CHICAGO (Reuters) Jan 09 - Despite warnings from federal officials that they will not approve the import of cheaper prescription drugs from Canada, more U.S. states are moving ahead with their plans to make such purchases.

New Hampshire and Iowa officials say they will soon join Illinois, which last month formally asked U.S. health regulators to approve its bid to import prescription drugs from Canada for retirees and state employees.

Under a new Medicare law, the U.S. health secretary must certify that importing such drugs is safe before it can be done legally. States argue that the law gives the federal government the power to approve the imports, but FDA officials have disagreed.

U.S. health officials vocally dismissed the idea of states importing drugs before the Illinois letter even landed in Washington. But that isn't stopping other states from making plans, going toe to toe with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration over its steadfast opposition.

"We are moving forward with requesting a waiver (to the import ban)," said Wendell Packard, spokesman for Gov. Craig Benson of New Hampshire, a Republican. "The FDA called and said we want you to come down, the governor's schedule didn't permit it, so they said they'd come to us."

Importing prescription drugs from Canada is a sore point between cash-strapped states and the federal government, which says the policy is too risky and that they don't have the resources to regulate it.

Driving the friction is double-digit medical inflation punching holes in state budgets.

FDA officials have said they do not plan to go after individuals who buy prescription drugs in Canada, but they have pursued companies involved in the business and have not ruled out action against states.

The FDA won a major victory when a U.S. court ordered Rx Depot Inc., a chain of storefronts that sends consumers' prescriptions to Canada, to shut down. Rx Depot said it will appeal.

"I have no doubt in my mind that the FDA will go to court to stop it," said Ira Loss, analyst at Washington Analysis who follows the FDA closely. "They are not going to bother you if you are just buying for you, but if you decide you'll become an importer, that's a different story."

Boston, Massachusetts officials said last month they will start importing drugs from Canada on July 1, 2004, even if regulators refuse to approve its plan.

At least a dozen other states, including Wisconsin and Minnesota, are mulling importation.
Reuters 2004
























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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: sigmund]
      #128452 - 01/12/04 02:09 PM

I do hope more states will join in on this. WRITE YOUR LEGISLATORS!!! This is a war that CAN be won.

Limbo (ok it's Jimbo, but I just got my meds so I can now move around better without pain!)

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Re: FDA on Canada Drugs: No Way [Re: Opie_Yates]
      #128474 - 01/12/04 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Well President Clinton had a bill on his desk that he vetoed in his final days that would have legalized importation of drugs. It a party "neutral" for both Dems and Reps. neither as a whole want to legalize importation of drugs. Take care. Billylll




It's just more propaganda by the "Hate Bush at any Cost" crowd. It crosses political lines and they can't admit it.




Oh, I admit it. I still detest Bush. He's a proven liar, like almost every politician.
If everyone wants change, then vote Libertarian, the party that wants government to stick their noses out of our business and our med cabinets. Like I really need to be protected from myself. No thanks. I trust my own judgement better than a politician that doesn't know me from adam. My own doctor admitted I know more about migraines then he does. So like I said, I can trust myself about my own body. Like I want a President who barely passed college and had an alchohol problem at one point to tell me what I can put in my own body. I never had an alcohol problem (far from it, I detest the taste of it) and I don't take illegal drugs either. Guess who knows best here? ME. Not some politician and not some bureacrat either. And to be honest? Even if I were a heroin addict....as long as I don't hurt anyone, they can let me rot in a corner. None of their business. (and no, I am not an addict of any kind, but that would be MY choice, as a breathing, thinking adult. Stupid choice, IMO, yes, but it would be mine.)


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