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jessica
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codeisan question?
      #116724 - 11/18/03 04:55 PM

In the insert that comes in the pakage it states 1/2 H2O. Does this mean that one have of the codein is imediate released and the other have is time released? Does anyone know?

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potatoboy99
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: jessica]
      #116736 - 11/18/03 05:36 PM

The Codeisan that I have used is 30mg codeine phosphate, in tablet form, with no APAP, just plain old codeine. It is not time release.

(There is a 50mg codeine phosphate product called Perduretas that are time release. You can chew them up for faster action but they taste nasty).

I beleive you might have Codeisan syrup, which I have never used. I have no idea what the H20 means. If it's a syrup it's hard to see how it could be time release.


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Sky_Queen
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: jessica]
      #116767 - 11/18/03 07:14 PM

I've always been confused by this stuff. I got some from Biotran a while back, white round tablets in a blister pack. My understand is it's like 30% or so codeine and I think ibuprofen? Lovepink could tell you for sure, I'm no good at codeine products at all - I just got it for emergencies if I run out of hydro.

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: Sky_Queen]
      #116825 - 11/18/03 10:28 PM

codeisan is 30mg of pure codeine, and it is NOT time-released.

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: jessica]
      #116829 - 11/18/03 10:43 PM

It sounds as if you may have the effervesent form of codeine.
Especially with the mention of the "H2O"

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: efffbeee]
      #116857 - 11/19/03 05:15 AM

Efffbeee I had no idea, I was sure it was mixed with ibuprofen. Good to know and thanks!

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: bhamdave]
      #116858 - 11/19/03 05:21 AM

I tend to concur with bhamdave about your med being effervescent...is the tab bigger than a normal tablet?

Kathy, I bet you were thinking of Nurofen Plus - that's the codeine & ibuprofen mixture.

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: lovepink]
      #116930 - 11/19/03 10:23 AM

I agree with Lovepink...that sounds like the "Alka-Seltzer" style codesian. It works exactly like Alka-Seltzer (and tastes just as gross!)

It is commonly sold this way in Europe.

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potatoboy99
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: night_shade]
      #116944 - 11/19/03 10:58 AM

Quote:

that sounds like the "Alka-Seltzer" style codesian




That's a new one on me. Is it still called Codeisan? I've never seen it offered anywhere. I'll check bhamdave's Who Offers It codeine thread, but in cast I don't find it, do any of you know where to get this stuff?

I'm a big alka-seltzer fan, I often take a couple in the morning with my first Norco of the day. Plop plop fizz fizz oh what a relief it is! I'd be very curous to try effervescent Codeisan.

Thanks.


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lovepink
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: potatoboy99]
      #116949 - 11/19/03 11:10 AM

PB, the only effervescent codeine med I currently have to refer to is "Cod-Efferalgan" with 30 mg. codeine & 500 mg. paracetamol, the equivalent of Tylenol 3. Its made by UPSAMEDICA, S.A.

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Needmy
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: lovepink]
      #117012 - 11/19/03 02:23 PM

codeine very much compared all over as tylenol 3

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jessica
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: lovepink]
      #117080 - 11/19/03 04:51 PM

The codeisan I have comes in blister pack white round small tab with line down the middle. The box says 27.8mg 1/2 h20; I have gotten tjis from several ops

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: jessica]
      #117123 - 11/19/03 08:01 PM

The "alka seltzer" style codine containing products that I have used are:

Paracodol/Co-codamol (SAME THING) got this OTC in England) (only 8mgs codeine per effervescent tablet--they are about an inch in diameter and are scored--also contains APAP)

Generic Effervescent Codeine with APAP--in lieu of Tylenol 3's (30mgs per tablet, same size tab--looks just like an Alka Seltzer--and has 500mgs APAP, I think)

Dafalgan Eff. Codeine (got this in France) has 30mgs codeine and 500 APAP...same tablet style...

Efferalgan (also from France) 30mgs codeine/600 APAP

These are the only ones I have used or know of.

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Re: codeisan question? [Re: jessica]
      #117241 - 11/20/03 07:34 AM

I found what you were refering to it's the formula of the tabs that you rec'd.

Example:
CODEINE-PHOSPHATE

FORMULA-C18H3.H3PO4.1 1/2 H2O

MELTING POINT- 220-35

SOLUABILITY

WATER-VERY SOLUBLE

ALCOHOL-SOLUBLE

ETHER-SOLUBLE

OTHER--CHLOROFORM--SOLUBLE



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buzz99
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: bhamdave]
      #122836 - 12/14/03 06:00 AM

LOL..... how about BUDWEISER-SOLUBLE

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karmapolice
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Re: codeisan question? [Re: karmapolice]
      #127462 - 01/08/04 12:35 AM

"If it's a syrup it's hard to see how it could be time release".potatoboy
Just for the record, there actually are slow release syrups out there. I have noticed a bottle of delsym (a cough suppressant) in my medicine cabinet that says 12 hour release. When you read the fine print it says dextromethorphanstyrex 5mg. equivalent to 30mg. dextromethorphan (styrex being the added part) the liquid feels sort of grainy like the dextrometh. in encapsulated in some form of edible plastic or magnesium(not quite sure what) type material, and the rest being sugar water, flavoring etc...... sorry a little off topic.


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