lttlbit
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I was just watching Oprah and she had a show on medical mistakes and it said that 99,000 people die each year from medical mistakes.
This one poor girl had given birth and had a very deep laceration and they took 2 hours to sew her up and when she went home she was in pain for 6 weeks unbearable pain she went to the doctor and er and they never examined her, when she had her 6 week check up they found a 6 inch piece of gauze in her that was left by the doctor. I mean how in the heck do you forget something like that.
This other girl was told she had cancer and she did not and they gave her a hysterecimety (sp) and even went through the radition process and never had cancer. Unbelievable.
This other guy had bladder cancer and they cut off his penis, that poor man.
I just wanted to share this with all of you so next time we see our doctor we can do a checklist or something this show really shocked me on how bad doctors can be.
Take care and all have a wonderful painfree evening
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Opie_Yates
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My mother died from a series of medical blunders at a certain hospital in Tulsa, OK. Yes, she was diabetic. Yes, she was having a four way by-pass. And yes, she had a sick heart when they brought her into surgery. Here's the problem:
They took her out of cardiac ICU into a regular room a day earlier than most bypass patients even though the surgeon had expressed concern about the difficulty of recovery from her surgery. It's almost like, OK, let's take this weak, diabetic, bypass patient away from intensive care earlier than patients with better prospects! To me that's like saying: "Let's just knowingly take this lady off to her death." Long story short, she developed sepsis, had to be taken back to the CICU, then began the organ failure, the gangrene in the toes, and finally the total shut down of the kidneys. My parting words to them were: "I hope you know that you basically murdered my mother."
No lawyer would take the case because Tulsa is a small city, the hospital is very powerful, and the attornies said because she was "elderly" (66), there would be no element of jury sympathy. God only knows what else they did that I didn't know about. My opinion of the medical profession is Best if kept of the board.
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boyoboy
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It is very true, happens all the time. My sister had twins through caeseran and one placenta was not removed. She almost died, had to have emergency surgery and 3 blood transfusions in 24 hours.
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sheenafur
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My mother died in 1999 at the "hospital of the stars" in LA. Her cardiologist was one of the best in the country. She easily could have lived several more years and enjoyed her grandchildren, but the doctor essentially sent her home to die because he was too busy. It doesn't matter whether you end up in a small town hospital with a small town doctor or in a nationally recognized hospital with a star "ologist." Sometimes, money doesn't even talk.
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Firefairy
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I found this board because I was home recovering from surgery. Here's the story:
Seven years ago I had a hysterectomy. The removed the uterus, both fallopian tubes, cervix, and one ovary. I had it done because of endimetriosis but they decided since I was 29 to leave one ovary. A year later they had to go get the other ovary and remove more endimetriosis tissue. The pain continues, at times so severe I pass out. I have Lupus, and whenever I complained of abdom. pain they gave various reasons for it, the most common being IBS. In Oct of this year the pain got so bad they did emergency surgery thinking it was appendicitis. They go in and not only do I still have an ovary and fallopian tube but they have to remove 1.6 lbs of scar tissue from endimetriosis. The first 3 law firms I talked refused the case because I did not die or suffer permanent harm. 7 years of preventable pain, countless missed days of work, massive medical bills for this surgery and hospital stay, but no case? They lied on my records, to me, and billed my insurance for removal of organs they did not do, but no case? Now I am looking for a lawyer in another city.
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night_shade
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Personal injury cases are almost exclusively done on a contingency basis and no lawyer wants to incur the expenses of a trial they probably won't win. Unfortunately pain and suffering is hard to get if a jury can't see some permanent damage or death done by the malpractice.
While I understand your point, Firefairy, I also see why the case probably won't get very far. Malpractice claims are so numerous and expensive and even though some people deserve to win their cases, this country has a severe case of entitlement.
I am NOT making any personal judgments, just telling it like it is in a broader perspective. I, too, have lost a loved one due to medical malpractice, but we realized the futility of bringing a lawsuit against the offending physician. It was a personal decision made by my family and it may be different for other people.
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I was in the hospital giving birth to my oldest son, when my doctor came in. Now, this was a doctor who I had only met twice before because I had always seen her NP. She was a one woman practice with the patient load of a whole group. She ran us like cattle. Anyway, she shows up and orders magnesium sulphate to combat my high blood pressure. From what I understand, it is like a CNS depressant. Then she leaves for the night to go to a St Patty's Day party.
My husband and I are basically left alone in the hospital room for most of the night. Every now and then a nurse comes in. Well, then it's time for me to deliver, around 2:00am. I don't know if the on-call doctor didn't look at my chart or if the info about the magnesium sulphate was not entered, but things start to go bad. My son was 9lbs, 8 oz, about 2 pounds bigger than they anticipated. Then the placenta would not come out, so the doctor starts yanking real hard. I remember that pain. Then out comes the placenta, but my inverted uterus comes with it.
And the bleeding starts that they can't stop. Apparently she used way to much force for a person who was on magnesium sulphate. Then she tried shoving it back, but it wouldn't go. I have never felt pain like that in my life.
All of a sudden, there's like 20 people in the room, than I'm being taken to the OR, where, thank God, the anesthesiologist shows up and knock me out. But I do remember him saying "I don't believe you don't have her blood typed." Then I passed out.
When I woke up about an hour later, I couldn't move. For four days, I had no color in my lips or under my eyes . I was as white as a ghost and could not even hold my new son. Matter of fact, they wouldn't let me see him for 8 hours because they said I was under the influence of too many drugs. WTF?!!
Anyway, I know I needed more blood, they should have given me more. I couldn't hold my son for a week, unless I was sitting down and someone handed him to me.
Not to mention that during the whole ordeal, someone just handed the baby to my husband and never explained to him what was going on. While I was in the OR a nurse came back to the room and my husband asked if I was going to be ok. She actually said to him, "I don't know. This is very serious. I have never seen anything like this before. She could die but the doctors are working as hard as they can." So here my hubby thinks his wife is going to die, for 45 minutes. And he's left with a newborn baby, where he's never even held a newborn before.
Oh well. Water under the bridge. My cousin is an OB/Gyn and he says I had a case against my doctor for leaving. It's not like I would ever want money for that, I just would have like to see her reprimanded for being so negligent and not evn knowing her patients. At least now I have an amazing doctor, and two more children with no complications.
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Opie_Yates
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legan...that is a heart-wrenching and horrifying story. My heart truly goes out to your for your experience with those incompetent numbskulls. Sounds like a macabre and twisted episode of the Keystone Kops. I am soooooo sorrry but glad you are here with your child to tell us about it. 
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valle
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Hello Legan,
Thank is the most unbelieable story i havd ever heard. And a malpractice suit for sure!! I know you say you didnt care about the money, but that really should have been pursued, it could be happening to someone else right now!! Iam so sorry you had to go through that, and your husband too! For that nurse to come out and say that to him, well thats malpractice in itself! Iam so surprised that you were able to have another child after that event!! You are a very lucky person!
For these types of reasons this is why people in the medical profression carry malpractice insurance. Typically, nothing comes out of their pocket except the humilitation for negligance.
In regards for these cases some of you talked about, about ones being misdiagnosed, it does happen quite often unfortuneately. I do know if myself or a loved one had a serious condtion that required an operation, radiaiton, amputation, whatever it may be i would be seeking 2nd and 3rd opinions. Luckily Iam in the medical profression and know what type of questions to ask, so Iam at a little bit of an advantage. But it is your right to get other opinions. In some cases it may be difficult with all the health care changes going on........ie.....HMO's but it is possible just requires a little work and time. Yet well worth it if someone you love is being misdiagnosed. Take this to heart when this does happen to you someday....GET A SECOND OPIONION OR THREE AT THAT!! Sure they may all say the same thing but what if they dont?? You see the above stories of the mistakes that have been made. What if that was your mother, father, son or daughter??
Okay getting off topic.......will stop now!!
Good luck to all of you & Happy Holidays
xoxox
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Well since we are on the subject, I thought I would just briefly mention that I lost a loved one to malpractice as well. It's amazing how with such a small number of people on this board that there are already this many cases of malpractice that ended in death or near death. Could you imagine if we took a poll on the entire US? INCREDIBLE!!
legin -- glad you are still here to tell your story... you are lucky!
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I was in the Military with an upset stomach one morning and was "lucky" enough to be stationed in a MAJOR metropolitan area where there wasn't a true military hospital so when there was an emergency they would ship us to the regular hospital. I won't gross you out with the details too much but they removed a healthy appendix after they found no conclusive evidence from their blood tests that there was any problem. In fact, at the time I told them i was feeling better and when I went in I told them I had eaten off of the truck this morning and that I felt like it might be food poisening. So, here I am, with a healthy appendix in a jar and the surgeon came in and said "well, you were a convincing faker, it may have gotten you a few days off but not in my hospital". I was three hours out of surgery at the time so I was too hazy to say or do anything about it. In fact, my room mate had to remind me of it the next day.
So, around 3 in the morning a nurse comes in and makes me walk around for a half an hour (standard proceedure) but she forgets me at the end of the hall and I am unable to get back to my room or to call out for help. I try walking it back only to fall on my face and break my nose in the process. That afternoon the surgeon comes in and tells me that if anything else happens he will put me in the mental ward. Now, I get pissed and call my CO. I have a stellar record and was submitted for a very special award from him through the Guard for a rescue I had been involved in. I was a stellar airman at the time and since I was in the air allot I was drug tested all of the time and never once was there ever a question about me. I had always recieved top marks and had promoted faster than anyone around me. In other words, I was a clean cut squared away nerd who took his job seriously.
My CO himself comes to the hospital and reads my charts. He talks to me about how none of the things this doctor writes matters and to just hang in there. In walks the surgeon. My CO says, I don't like the way you are treating my man here and you need to know that this is one of the best our country has to offer, whatever you think about him is wrong and you should treat him like the great young man he is". The surgeon wasn't used to being talked down to so he just shut up and let my CO talk. After he left I didn't hear from the doctor until the next morning when I was instantly released from the hospital. THREE DAYS LATER. I still had stapels in my stomach and the quack made an amazing 16 inch insicion to remove my appendix. I have a scar that runs from under my right rib cage (along the waist) all the way past my navel. It was full of stitches and I would black out from the pain from time to time because the surgeon was teaching me a lesson and didn't want to give me anything for the pain. He said "fakers don't need meds". I was walking through the halls of the hospital trying to get out of there alive when my first of 11 stapels popped out. The rest came within three stepps leaving me holding a large portion of my intestines in my hands. There was this green ocherish stuff pooring out of me that I think was puss but I am not sure. It happened in front of the hospital directors office and I started crying. Not yelling, just fell down on my knees and started crying holding my guts in my right hand. 20 years old and I was sure this was the end. A man walked up turned and started yelling and within a minute there were doctors and stuff going on around me and then I blacked out.
When I came to they got that man, who turned out to be the hospital administrator (head of the place) who came and said "You shouldn't have tried to sneak out of the hospitl, it almost cost you your life". He was very angry. I told him I had been discharged by his doctor and he said that I hadn't. I showed him my papers which my then fiance had taken and put in her purse while I was checking out. (she had left to go get the car so when she came back and couldn't find me you can imagine her suprise) The administrator looked at the papers and said "I am very sorry Mr.---------. It turns out that the prix of a doctor, when he found out what had happened had tried to cover up the fact that HE had discharged me including destroying papers. I lost a portion of my intestines as well as having a perminant hitch in my side and of course, the scar. The administrator was very forthright with me and told me that I was mistreated from the beginning and he had moved me into a private room. Three weeks later i was able to walk and eat solid foods again. A month later I was back at work but wasn't rated as ready to fly again for another two months. Of course I went to sue the hospital only to find out that as I was in the military at the time and the fact that the hospital had a working agreement with the govt that they were protected as a member of the govt and that I was unable to sue them. I also was unable to sue due to millitary obligation for some reason and as I was a 20 (then 21) year old man I let it go.
I have since over the years had several doctors tell me I was lucky to have lived through that experience. All because I had a stomach ache and ran into a bad doctor who, in my opinion, had tried to kill me.
Closure came in that after my time in the millitary I stayed in the area and sure enough, went to the hospital for the birth of my first son and low and behold who is the doctor on duty in the ER when we go in. Dr death. I knew him right away but he had no idea who I was. We had time and were just waiting for my wifes dr to show so didn't need him but when he came into the room she was in I said, "hello doctor, do you remember me?" He said "no, should I" with a smug smile on his face. I said "yes, I am the young man you tried to kill with your negligence a few year ago, I was in the millitary and you Best if kept off the board near killed me with your awful care. I am going to give you a break (he was trapped in the room as I had moved in between him and the door) and let you walk out of here alive but not without telling you that your a worthless piece of crahp and i am positive that there is a special place in hell saved just for you where you can spend eternity suffering the way your patients have had to. You have no business "practicing" medicine and you should hope to god that I can't think of a reason to sue you for malpractice in this situation to make you pay for your attempted murder of me". He went white as a sheet and walked out the door but not before he turned and said, "it isn't like I wasn't sanctured (whatever) for that incident and that it didn't cost me money" I said, "the fact that you are still a doctor means that you weren't close to punished enough now get out of this room you waste of a human".
The security showed up as he had said I threatened him and after some talking they left. I know I was watched but didn't care because i got to say my piece. Years have passed now and I have learned to forgive others for their actions in the manner I want to be forgiven for mine but, of all of those things, He is the one situation that I had the most amount of trouble with.
Each time I try to run and it hurts in my right side I think of him.
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537
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Oh my God, I'm speechless. That SOB should have never been allowed to treat an animal, let alone humans. Thank God you made it through. Bless you.
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Julz
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My Dad was diagnosed w/ Hodgkins Lymphoma a few years ago. After his 1st chemo treatment, they put a stunt in his chest for the IV for the rest of his chemo. While he was on the operating table, the surgeon realized that he had mis-measured, and the stunt they put in was too short. They took it out & put in a longer one, sewed him up, sent him home. A day or so later, he was back in the hospital with a fever of 104! What had happened was that in the midst of removing the 1st stunt & putting in the 2nd, bacteria got in there and caused a MAJOR infection. Because my dad had already had his 1st chemo session, his WBC was down and his body couldn't fight the infection that settled in. They brought in an infection specialist, his oncologist, and a few more "ologists" to save my poor dad's life. I believe that prayers & God were what saved his life;we almost lost him, not because of the cancer, but because of a stupid mistake on the part of the surgeon who placed the stunt in his chest. They ended up removing the stunt altogether, and now he has a nasty, huge dent and scar on his chest. I do thank GOD that he survived this ordeal.
My heart goes out to you,legan,and to everyone else who has been butchered by these idiots. My husband has a saying about doctors that goes like this, "That is why they call it a PRACTICE."
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Opie_Yates
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Old riddle:
Q: What do you call a med student who graduates at the bottom of his/her class? (scroll down)
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wat853son
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I also was treated inadequately by military sawman. He left blunt piece of instrument that had broken in my knee joint. Weeks later I continued to howl about searing pain and he said "quit acting like a child". I asked for 2nd opinion, demanded x-ray or another arthroscopy it worked and they found the broken piece. Original Dr. A Wipe would not even talk to me. My CO reamed the ranking Dr and he was speechless. I was elated. Five surgeries later here I am.
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lemongrass
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Oh, the horror of all your stories! I'm glad you are all here to tell about them though. Someone was definitely looking out for you...your guardian angels.
My story isn't as dramatic, but after I gave birth to my third child, I let daddy go home to get some rest. No sooner than he left, I felt the blood gushing. I called the nurse over to me and told her that there was something seriously wrong. The blood pressure monitor was dropping quickly and the nurse went and got the doctor. When he walked in, the monitor was now beeping. He left placenta in me and I was hemorrhaging.
The doc ordered the nurse to give me demerol and she argued that I wasn't in pain since I had an epidural. He said I would be in pain. I didn't understand the seriousness of this and after hearing that statement, I demanded that they knock me out. The nurse argued with me that if they do that, they will have to take me to the OR and they didn't have time to do that...I would die in the meantime. She guilted me and told me I would never see my newborn baby again. So I dealt with the pain. And oh, talk about pain! Believe it or not, this doctor had to stick his hand in me all the way up to his elbow in order to reach and remove the rest of the placenta. And that's no lie. I kicked and screamed and cursed and I was in a Catholic hospital! That was worse than two of my natural births combined.
Room for suit though? No. I didn't feel it was anything to do with doctor's negligence. I just think he thought all of the placenta was out of me. I lived to tell about it and I have no permanent damage or any lasting scars. Only the memory.
I'm glad we're here to share our stories. It really puts a lot into perspective, doesn't it?
Thanks for listening.
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lttlbit
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My sister in law was in the hospital and had a morphine drip, the morhpine machine went haywire and she ended up getting a running facuet of morphine into her system, she went code blue and was ok thank god, but that was so terrifying for her.
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