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qbird
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Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds
      #118641 - 11/26/03 07:43 AM




By Shern-Min Chow / 11 News






Each year Americans spend hundreds of millions of dollars on prescription drugs in Mexico. But we’ve discovered that the decision to buy medications south of the border can be dangerous – and deadly.


They come by the busloads, seeking a magic pill. Leading the consumer charge into border town pharmacies are senior citizens.


“This one is for highblood pressure,” Nellie Pratt says as she shows off her medications. “This one is for shakiness. You know, tremors.”


Here in the United States, the prescription drug known as Inderal costs Pratt 31 cents a pill; in Mexico, the equivalent costs just 5 cents. Norvask costs $1.40 a pill in the U.S., but its Mexican counterpart sells for a mere 16 cents.

south of the border.


U.S. drugs are expensive partly because they are so stringently regulated. The FDA estimates 25% of the drugs made in Mexico's unregulated pharamceutical industry are counterfeit. So we decided to put Nelle's drugs and others-- to the test.



KHOU-TV
Leading the consumer charge into border town pharmacies are senior citizens.

Forensic toxicologist Dr. Ernest Lykessa has tested prescription drugs from Mexico before and found, in some cases, “nothing but milk sugar, or talcum powder.” Before checking our stash of Mexican medications, he warned us that potency, purity or heavy metal contamination could be problems. Metals can leach into drugs, during cheaper manufacturing processes .


The Mexican version of Norvasc was 100% potent, but had significant levels of chromium. And that, Lykessa warns, is dangerous.


“Yes, yes it is,” he says. “The kidneys are going to be impacted.”


Nelle's Inderal was 95% potent.


“It’s possible the drug had passed its expiration date, yes, which is why it was cheaper,” Lykessa says.


Worse yet, it bore several heavy metal contaminants. The most frightening problem: 150 times the acceptable level of lead.


"It causes dementia,” Lykessa says.


Would he give that pill to his grandmother? "No,” he says. “I wouldn't give it to my dog."


Nelle was suprised. Besides cancer, those metals also contribute to neuromuscular problems – like trembling.


“I'll be darned,” she says. “Maybe that's why I was shaking so bad yesterday.”


But the medical equation gets even more complicated. Consider Celia Flores, a 37 year old mother with three children and a debilitating back condition that will eventually put her in a wheelchair.


“With no insurance it’s hard …” she says. “I did go without any medication for about a year.”


Then, she started buying her muscle relaxer, Diclofenac, in Mexico. The difference in cost is astonishing.


“For 3 months, I only spent 20 dollars,” she says. Here in the U.S., for the same supply of drugs, she says she would have paid $391.


She gave us her Diclofenac, along with some of a friend’s supply of Ranitidine, a stomach medicine sold here as Xantac.


The copycat Xantac looked bad from the start.


“They're falling apart,” Lykessa said as he tested the drugs.


The results? Celia's back medicine was 100% potent and 100% pure. But her friend’s counterfeit Xantac show a potency of only 72%, Lykessa says, “which makes it useless.”


But what the doctor found next so startled him, he repeated the test three times: chromium 800 times the acceptable level, arsenic 1500 times the acceptable level.


“You take this pill for stomach ulcer,” Lykessa says, “you end up with stomach cancer. You’re going to die. We’re talking death here.”


So we went back to Celia, first giving her the good news about her back medicine. Was she relieved?


“I never felt worried,” she says.


But as for her friend’s stomach pills, she was surprised.


The counterfeit Xantac results prompted Nelle to take action..


“I'll pass that along to my family,” she says, “because they all take it.”


So buying Mexican drugs may seem like a bargain, but sometimes saving a dollar can be a gamble.


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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: qbird]
      #118668 - 11/26/03 09:25 AM

hmmm you think this is just the US pharmaceutical industry way of giving bad reps about foreign meds? More Scare Tactics to keep people from buying them. Wouldnt be very hard for them to throw some money at these people testing this stuff and get them to say these things. Who knows...



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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: raist_26858]
      #118697 - 11/26/03 11:29 AM

Some of the concerns here are justified. Mexico's pharmaceutical industry is badly in need of better regulation and enforcement. First off, given the amount of senior citizens coming to border towns from the US, the pharmacies in the border towns would be more likely to try to rip-off foreigners.

Also, many of the no-name generics made in countries like Mexico could be of suspect quality. The patent protection given to new drugs aren't in place there in a lot of cases, so you'll find generics for Norvasc and Lipitor even though the patent protection in the US is still there.

The best advice would be to spend a little extra on brand-name products in Mexico if they sell them. They usually come in the same name as the US versions but not always, but the manufacturers should be the same: Pfizer, J&J, Wyeth, GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers-Squibb and so on. Many of these large pharmaceutical companies have factories in Mexico and Europe making high-quality versions of the drugs that they have patented. And those will be cheaper in Mexico than in the US.


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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: JByrnes]
      #118719 - 11/26/03 12:10 PM

I saw the live news report too and thought I would share. Basically there is a beware message here. That if you buy Mexican drugs from the border, make sure they are brand name and not tampered with.

The people interviewed were an elderly person who can't afford high script costs in the US so she goes over the border to get her meds. The other was an unemployed and single mom who has a bad back condition and just can't afford meds here either. Tragic situation that we have to resort to going over the border to get affordable meds. The big pharmaceutical companies just disgust me.


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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: qbird]
      #118750 - 11/26/03 02:14 PM

GEEZ, makes me NOT want to buy any mexican pharmaceuticals.......

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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: voyager]
      #118827 - 11/26/03 09:07 PM

I had always assumed that many of the things they said in the article could be true, so I could certainly believe them. What bothered me was the 72% pure Zantac that was called "useless". OBVIOUSLY, it would be 72% 'useful'. That one statement tainted the 'purity' of the entire article for me, so I now have to label it 'useless'.
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PS: All of you that find yourselves with 72% or less of a dollar in your pocket at the end of the day, please send it to me to be properly disposed of, as it is obviously useless.

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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: Whatsnew]
      #118841 - 11/26/03 10:24 PM

I don't think that percentage figure means that the pill contained 72% of the amount of Zantac it was supposed to contain. I think it means the actual chemical itself, is only 72% 'pure' - Meaning - it is not fully the right chemical. If something is not at least about 97% *pure* (the chemical itself) - then it might not even have the effect it is supposed to have whatsoever.

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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: zeuzjuz]
      #119377 - 11/30/03 01:20 PM

That is correct Zeus.

The other poster:In the news story, I can't believe I am defending what I saw I may add, the pharmacist that was testing the meds was also saying what other things were in the pills that should not be. The pill was 72% Zantac and 28% other things such as lead for one thing and other stuff you can go back and reread it to see. One of the meds had arsenic in it. The issue is buyer beware if you are trying to save a $$ by going to the border towns in Mexico since the quality control is different.

Also when I take meds, I would not be ok with 72% zantac and 28% God knows what. I would hope you would feel the same about your family's health. I am guilty of buying Mexican meds too since I live not too far from Mexico. That article made me rethink doing that again.


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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: qbird]
      #119881 - 12/02/03 12:52 PM

If this is a fact, then the study should be easily replicated. Now who has the Phd in chemistry?

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Re: Interesting News Story about Mexican Meds [Re: drewsmerdel]
      #119985 - 12/02/03 06:23 PM

Quote:

Now who has the Phd in chemistry?






Admittedly not me. OK Drew throw caution to the wind, go to Mexico and get those meds. LOL!


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