gottadoit
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Hi everyone,
I've posted that I am in the process of weaning down for a much need "hydro holiday". I have taken a couple of xanax to help me sleep and they've worked wonders. I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. I have my annual work physical next month and it includes a uring drug screen. Any one know how long xanax stays in the system. Any vitamins or anything like that will "wash" it out faster? Any info will be appreciated. I forgot all about the stupid phsyical until I got the paperwork for it today! UGH! Thanks in advance.
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zorg
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Xanax has a very short half-life, you would DEFINETELY be clean within 4 days from the dosing, 7 at an absolute worst-case. These are guesses but semi-educated and should be close. If you're talking over a week away you will absolutely be 100% clean from xanax if you're done taking it already. I'd recommend AGAINST taking "test clean" type materials, they are actually integrating some reagants for these very materials into the tests, to fail you for having the test clean in your urine! Best to go clean without gorging on water.
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drewsmerdel
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Alprazolam is similar to THC in that it clings to the fat cells in your body. This makes for to many variables to be able to say 1-??? days. I used to work in a pathologist lab, you would be amazaed at how many people put their own speciman on the line just to see how long diffremt drugs take to "exit" their system(s). To be on the safe side I would still either obtain a small script for Alprazolam from you Gen Doc, or I would get a "flush", or "masking" pizz passer. PM me if you need advice on a good brand, their are many out on the market.
Drew
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Whatsnew
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I once tested positive for Xanax at least almost 3 weeks after taking it. Thankfully all that it cost me is a 2 week (unpaid) vacation from work, but it could have been much worse. You don't want to take any chances with this. I would get a script (safest) or stop taking immediately (2nd safest). I am not trying to worry you, but I know that you don't want to jeopardize your job. I hope that all goes well.
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zorg
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crikey, I am sorry if this fat solubility thing is the real deal. Be careful with the test cleansers though, they ONLY work via dilution! There has only been ONE scientifically proven test cleaner, and that was an external additive once the sample was drawn, it was not taken internally. They now test for that. Note how every single test clean includes the following: "drink 48 gallons of water after ingesting product". That's the mechanism, I swear. Dilution to reduce PPM and vitamin B complex to create yellowing of the diluted urine. If they test for the test clean or test for creatinine levels, you can get popped.
I'm gonna go figure out the definitive alprazolam metabolites and their solubility unless someone beats me to it later today.
Have a good one
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zorg
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drew: if you don't mind I'd be very interested in the science behind the test clean acutally working. A few years ago I had to beat a test (MJ) and found exact lab workups on all of this, which I parroted in my last post.
Just if you get a chance or whathaveyou.....
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zorg
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"" Benzodiazepines enter your blood stream and are deposited into your fat cells. Depending on which one used they can be detected in the urine and blood for 7 - 10 days. ""
Fat cells, Pain in the butt!!!! Man, fat is definetely going to make it hard to predict, but the MAIN factor for you to think about is your metabolism and activity regimen.
Are you overweight ? Is your metabolism fast , medium or slow ? Do you get regular exercise ?
If you are overweight and sedentary with a slower metabolism it is QUITE possible I would think to test positive 3-4 weeks knowing this now. On the other hand, fit, active and with a higher metabolism would probably burn the metabolites in 3-4 days.
Drinking water daily will NOT speed up the process of excreting the metabolites so don't even bother, just make sure to get enough water on average.
Now would NOT be a good time to start exercising if you haven't been, this could cause a 1-3 week temporary SPIKE in metabolites in the blood prior to a big burnoff. If you do workout, STOP a week before the test. If you don't work out, make sure to be as lazy as possible from now until the test, seriously.
I'm really sorry for the initial bad info, I thought THC was the only common drug with fat-soluble byproducts.
Anxious to hear what drewsmerdel has to say about test clean, because that I just can't buy based on the lab tests done (I'll try and find the study).
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drewsmerdel
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Sonick you are correct in that High tech labs can detect the "additive" Best if kept off the board passers. These are the ones you drop into your sample before giving it to the nurse.
Not that Gotta can predict this, but some Corps only test for "elicit" drug use. In other words this is a much cheeper test that only looks for THC(cannaboids SP??), heroin, and cocaine, etc. I was working at one time for the 2nd largest heath care corp in the US, they only used the cheep test, unless someone was injured on the job.
We would joke in the lab all the time when we got a sample that looked oddly like Neon Yellow ,that was always a sure sign(to us) that someone had used a Best if kept off the board passer. Urin color varies from person to person, so this cant be used against you when you give your sample. Of course the Neon color comes from the high amount of Vit B complex, they will sometimes flag you sample if it is too clear(delution). The real trick is to make sure the product you are using has creatine(SP??), this is what counters the speicific gravity test.
One other thing to consider and Sonic hit on this is that any test is looking for parts per million. In other words there is a cut off for how many parts per million you can have of canniboids(Sp??) and other drugs. These cleaning products only temporarily reduce your parts per million for a 1-3 hour window. Ive seen many a people fail tests when they have not givien themselves at least 48 hours without any drugs before the test, or cronic users can still fail a test even with a cleaning product, due to the high concentration of any drug, ie MJ, Benzos, etc. Many drugs can also slow your bodys own natural process APAP, caffine, and just about anything else your body has to eventually eliminate. Its a good idea to try to stay clear of any drugs if you know you have a test coming, as it would be best if you allow your bodys system to do as much work as it can before the pending date.
I havent worked in the lab for some years, but since that time I have heard from various sources that synthetic urin is a option, Tommy Chong used to market a synthetic urin, there are others. The problem with these products is that you have to have the urin within a certain temp range, they do sell small bladders you attach to your hip that maintian the urin(from a clean friend), or synthetic urin at the right temp for usually up to 3 hours.
No matter what you do Best if kept off the board quizes are always a tight rope walk.
Drew
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IMSUSCOT1
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If you end up having to take the test and haven't been able to get a script for the xanax...I'd drink a ton of water the day before & day of the test....YES, it will dilute your urine & you WILL have to test again, but the point is, it will hopefully buy you enough time to have the drug clear your system...They may "suspect" you've deliberately diluted your urine, but they can't prove it, so all they can do is ask for a retest....good luck
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digitalone
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Yup - Same here - positive UA's all the time and sometimes over 3 weeks.
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zorg
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Unless they take creatinine levels..... my (EX) employer is doing them right on the prem now. Another lovely layer of intrusion on our bodies. I'd dilute yes, but don't go crazy and mask it with B complex, creatinine can clearly illustrate major dilution.
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TwG
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Most drug tests don't test for benzos. Here is some info on drug tests
http://www.healthy.net/clinic/lab/labtest/003.asp
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml#what
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night_shade
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I think I have to agree with the last poster. Employment drug screens generally screen for THC, cocaine and possibly opiates. I guess it would depend on what industry you are in. Obviously, truck drivers, heavy machinery operators, airline employees, etc. would be tested for "commonly abused" medications and drugs.
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Dukey
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every test I ever took tested for diazepam
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TwG
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It depends what type of job you have, if you are taking a drug test to work at Target, they arean't going to use the same test that they would use for an airplan pilot. Most tests test for THC, cocaine, PCP, amphetamines, and morphine. Heroin and codeine both turn into morphine in your body, so they come up for opiates on the drug test. Standard drug tests do not test for oxycodone or hydrocodone either.
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Dukey
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I've had two standard tests for pre-employment in my industry, tech support.
Both times I tested positive for diazepam. I was currently taking hydro and Valium daily. Didnt matter because I had a prescription. The company that performed the test called me asked me if I had a prescription and told me to fax a copy of the receipt or a copy of the bottle to their Dr. (I had to do this because they were not allowed to verify with my Dr or pharmacy).
On the other hand, I went to college with a kid who runs a business that sells drug testing service to business. I was told percocet usually shows up but vicoden doesnt. Also, my wife took a drug test for her job at a large insurance company. Xanax didnt show up and it had been three days since she last took it, but she only takes it occasionally.
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