FakePlastic
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whats everyones favorite hydro brand?
And where do you get it from?
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potatoboy99
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Is this a poll? Or should it be? I dunno. Obviously different strengths and different brands seem to work better for different people.
I like Norco 10/325's. Somebody sent me some Watson 10/325's by mistake once, but I liked them just fine too. Vicodin scares me, with less hydro and twice the APAP or whatever.
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BlackCat
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The yellow Norco 10/325s are made in the same factory in CA by Watson who makes their identical "generic" yellow 10/325s on the same line. The two are the identical, which is why I always ask for Watson 10/325 when getting generic Norco.
Identical to Norco - fraction of the price.
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bromo
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10/325's are definetly my fav. too. But I don't like brand norco's or watson's for some reason they stop working very quickly. Strangely the mallies seem to last a lot longer and are more potent. Just me I guess .
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TwG
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They are all the same thing, except some have more apap. They all feel the same though as far as the amount of euphoria they give you. Generic vs Brand name, they all work the same.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/consumerinfo/generics_q&a.htm
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padmakara
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I have never gotten an enjoyable euphoria from generic norco's, nor do they work very well to relieve my pain. On the other hand, hycodan cough syrup, name brand percocet 10/325's, and injectable dilaudid in the emergency all do.
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potatoboy99
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Quote:
The yellow Norco 10/325s are made in the same factory in CA by Watson who makes their identical "generic" yellow 10/325s on the same line. The two are the identical
I did not know that! You learn something new every day here, Thanks!
That would explain why the prescription label said "#90 Norco / Watson 10/325" I asked for Norco, paid for Watsons. And it was Watsons in the bottle.
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padmakara
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Yes, they are made in the same factory by the same company, but I saw someone here of some repute a while back arguing that, By Law, the manufacturer must use a different formula for the generics. Any validity to that?
I know in my town, there are certain people that love the watson 10/325. For me, i get more side effects from them than pain killing effects or euphoria. Some people swear by the lortab 10/500's. I'm even going to order some next time to see what the fuss is about. I've studied biochemistry, and you can talk to me all day long about how 'its the same chemical, any difference in effect is placebo.' But, with my knowledge in that field, I would have to laugh if you said that to me. Take your ideals elsewhere and get with the reall world. Nothing ever works like it can 'hypothetically.' There's always theoretical and actual sides to things in science. Theoretically, a norco is the same as a lorrie 10/660. IN actuality, they're anything but.
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14stones
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Yes, they are different but only in some of thier non pain relieving areas. Generics use different binders for the most part or will change a few molocules. In order to be a generic they have to by law make some changes to the formula but, as has been pointed out, they also by law have to be what they say they are and have to have the same pain relieving qualities that there name brand brothers do.
The thing is that some people are sensitive to the binders or other changes that are made to generic meds. For some people there will be no noticable difference and for others there will be severe differences between the two. I was one of those people who had "severe" reactions to the generics but no problem with the name brand. (even though they were made at the same company.) I contacted the company and asked them about why I would experience the differences and they told me about the differences in the two meds and that it usually came down to the types of die (color additives) that they used when it came to the allergic reactions.
That being said, most people are only concerned about the overall pain relieving effect and that typically the same as name brand. I had a small research company to a chemical breakdown of the two different pills I had been given because my reaction to the generic was severe and I felt that I might have been poisened. They told me that they had found several different compounds between the two pills (I actually gave them 5 of each) but that they were both the same in the areas that the manufactuer claimed them to be and of course, i hadn't been poisened. There was a discrepency on how much actual hydrocodone was in the generic vs the name brand but that was believed to have been caused by the age of the generics which I believe was probably the case.
I hope that helps. I have had to (unfortunately) take most of the hydrocodone products available and totally agree with the precept that says that they are all about the same with the exception of the amount of apap that is in them. I eventually was forced to use hydrocodone in a liquid matrix that contained no apap at all in order to find one that worked for me. Too bad they don't just offer that as an alternative generally. To answer the obvious question on where that came from I can only say that when considering a PM or an OP ask if they use a "Compounding Pharmacy". If they do then they can make your medicine suit your specific needs. I know that YOD does and in order to make up for the loss of apap they made it 15 mg instead of 10.
Whenever you need to find an answer with meds go to the manufacturer.
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