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uga81
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90 day refill rules?
      #107858 - 10/15/03 09:53 PM

What's up with this 90 day refill OP rules? Is it a law or a safety measure? Can't find anything supporting the decision. Let me know what is going on.
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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: uga81]
      #107874 - 10/16/03 12:52 AM

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What's up with this 90 day refill OP rules? Is it a law or a safety measure? Can't find anything supporting the decision. Let me know what is going on.
uga81




This is complete speculation on my part - not a word may be true - but I think FDA/DEA is really putting the pressure on OP's and the OP's are trying every manuver they can, to try to maintain their lucrative businesses. Ultimately Ashcroft and his DEA will close most domestic OP's. Ashcroft is on record as favoring minimal pain medication - in his mind god is presenting you with this opportunity to suffer for your salvation. Ashcroft, IMHO,is one very sick MF.

Dimbulb Bush just follows along and does what he is told; and as TIME magazine pointed out, he doesn't need to hear twice, he get's it the first time. What a pathetic bunch of political criminals.

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: plotinus]
      #107935 - 10/16/03 10:45 AM

Quote:

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What's up with this 90 day refill OP rules? Is it a law or a safety measure? Can't find anything supporting the decision. Let me know what is going on.
uga81





This is complete speculation on my part - not a word may be true - but I think FDA/DEA is really putting the pressure on OP's and the OP's are trying every manuver they can, to try to maintain their lucrative businesses. Ultimately Ashcroft and his DEA will close most domestic OP's. Ashcroft is on record as favoring minimal pain medication - in his mind god is presenting you with this opportunity to suffer for your salvation. Ashcroft, IMHO,is one very sick MF.

Dimbulb Bush just follows along and does what he is told; and as TIME magazine pointed out, he doesn't need to hear twice, he get's it the first time. What a pathetic bunch of political criminals.




Agree with you on Asscroft...disagree on Bush. He is a good President who is concerned with the safety of our country and borders, and even with the likes of you, Plotzy. Asscroft is an albatross around his neck, and he would be a more effective President guaranteed without the guy. Bush is no dimbulb, Plotinus. He is a good man, a great leader and will be remembered in history as a great president. And that is what the majority of America thinks, but certainly not the People's Republic of Kalifornia. They would rather us all be Marxist, communist, worker bees and rob from middle class people you would consider to be rich.




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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: uga81]
      #107938 - 10/16/03 11:02 AM

this must be an op thing. when i get meds from my PMD i can refill the pain med 3-5 days prior to script orders ie 60 tabs 2 every 4 hours = refill in 5 days. if you are in good with the pharmicist they have let me fill meds a l ittle earier. my usual hold up is insurance and they dictate when they pay fpr a refill...

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: johng]
      #107952 - 10/16/03 11:43 AM

Bush, a great leader? This man has done more dammage to our country in 3 years than a nuculear war woulod have. Americans are worse off now than they have been since Reagan and thats saying a lot. Not to mention he is one of the dumbest men I have ever seen. He has no business being the President. None what-so-ever!!!!!!!

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: uga81]
      #107954 - 10/16/03 11:45 AM

It seems to definately be an OP thing since I have heard nothing about "real world" doctors, pharmacies or insurance companies making you wait 90 days to get or re-fill a new prescription for pain meds.

In my opinion, the 90 day wait policy is a result of a handfull of on-line doctors (and perhaps the OPs they are affiliated with) covering their butts so they don't look like they are handing meds out so often if they are expecting to get investigated in the near future.

In the real world, people are in pain and need to take more than 1 pill a day for 90 days (which was a norco prescription I got recently online). Real world doctors, pharmacies and insurance companies know this and are not heading toward a 90 day waiting period for pain medication to my knowledge (and based on common sense).

Regarding OPs, does anyone else know who is responsible for certain OPs requiring a 90 day wait between orders for narcotic pain relievers? Is it the Doctor writing the script or the OP or the pharmacy?

In whichever case, why would you guess they are doing it? (e.g. is there a law pending, are they covering their butts in anticipation of pending investigations of OPs and their doctors, etc.)??


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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: pescado1]
      #107970 - 10/16/03 12:11 PM

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Bush, a great leader? This man has done more dammage to our country in 3 years than a nuculear war woulod have. Americans are worse off now than they have been since Reagan and thats saying a lot. Not to mention he is one of the dumbest men I have ever seen. He has no business being the President. None what-so-ever!!!!!!!




Pesky,

Care to show some evidence of your assertions? If you weren't in such denial, you'd know that the economy and the infrastructure of the government was eroding well before Bush took office. Sounds like you're just kind of spouting the Michael "I Hate Bush" Moore robot tape.

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: uga81]
      #108016 - 10/16/03 06:13 PM

I'm SO out of the loop...get my pain meds from the doc but occasionally order sleep meds or soma from OP's what's the 90 day rule? Haven't ordered in a while so am clueless but doesn't sound good

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #108364 - 10/18/03 01:32 PM

I responded to your garbage Opie but as usual, anything that isn't left wing refuse gets pulled. I can't believe that they allow your posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand stay and yet my post, that used no vulgar language and gave you the "proof" that you are asking for got pulled. You know nothing about what you are saying and DB is becomming a very horrible place when it comes to allowing both sides of an opinion. They seem to only allow you to post as long as you agree with their point of veiw and if not, they pull it. Shame on you. I really thought that the mods here were better than this.

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: BlackCat]
      #108497 - 10/19/03 04:22 AM

Xanax, my understanding from reading everything I can find out on this new rule is that it is the Pharmacy's decision, especially Clinical Solutions since they fill for so many of these places. The docs at the OPs still write the scripts for "take one every 4-6 hours" or something similar, but obviously you can't do that if you have to make 90 pills last 90 days. It's possible the pharmacies are nervous since they always seem to be the first to get busted when something goes down with one of these OP's. I'd think this would cut into their business greatly, but then again, some of them seem to fill scripts for about 15 different OPs at once, and it might be better to be slightly less busy than shut down. I certainly could be wrong, but this seems like some arbitrary rule made up by the pharmacies who fill for certain OPs to minimize their risk since as has already been discussed, no local pharmacy expects you to wait 90 days between refills.

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: ghost]
      #108739 - 10/20/03 01:29 PM

I think in FL, you couldn't argue the "emergency" clause if you dispensed every 30 days. That would be maintenance meds.
By filling every 90, a flimsy argument could be made that it was an emergency doctor's order.
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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: 14stones]
      #108781 - 10/20/03 03:25 PM

Hey, ALL I'm asking is WHAT IS THE FRIGGIN 90 DAY rule...
ANYONE?
sorry saw the answer...thanks xanax'

Edited by IMSUSCOT1 (10/20/03 03:26 PM)


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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #108800 - 10/20/03 04:23 PM

Some of the no record OPs are now making people wait 90 days between orders.

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: LumbarSpasm]
      #108839 - 10/20/03 05:53 PM

Thanks...sorry..I'm SO CRANKY cuz ain't had no sleep...long story...THANK YOU

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Re: 90 day refill rules? [Re: pescado1]
      #108953 - 10/21/03 07:52 AM

Let's just talk about 90 day refills.

Thank you.


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