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redhill
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"Most Legit" OP out there?
      #106762 - 10/10/03 11:30 PM

OP's have always been in a grey area, it seems, even if they are technically legal. But we all know that when we're in a bind, we need to get meds fast and without hassle.

I've recently learned that my spine is in trouble, I have disc protrusions, with pressure on the thoracic nerve, among others. Meaning that after months of begging docs for pain meds, being called a drug seeker, and resorting to any OP I could tap, I finally have plenty of convincing documentation, MRI's etc.

With that in mind, I am wondering what OP to turn to when my luck runs out with the regular doctors. As much as they want to help me, conservative treatment with Vioxx (already wrecked my stomach) and physical therapy is not going to actually relieve pain. I want to use an OP, legally, and go through all the channels of providing documentation and previous treatments. So which one is least "grey" and gives the most medication for the money?

Thanks in advance.

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Fox456
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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106767 - 10/10/03 11:55 PM

I know that the ones that require medical records and your photo id along with a telephone doctor consult are better to use for legal reasons. But I often wondered if the ones that send out a port-a-medic are more in line with the official doctor/patient relationship requirement. Just wondering also.....PLEASE help also. Thanks and take care all of you wonderful guys and gals. ... By the way how does everyone like my black green eyed cat????

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Fox456]
      #106771 - 10/11/03 12:09 AM

red, in all of the research I've done- it seems that the best bets are with YOD or AAAMedsWorldWide. They both require records and are both currently offering specials and both, with the initial consult, will run you about the same price after all is said and done. Good luck!

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106786 - 10/11/03 04:20 AM

IMO Definitely MidlandMC. They are great and the Dr. is very very understanding, easy to talk to, and extremely caring. CS is also the BEST!
Good luck!

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106792 - 10/11/03 06:35 AM

If you are seeking hydrocodone medication only, I would look at www.ephy.com as your source for pain medication. They have the cheapest consult prices around, $45. You do have to send in medical records, at least one page, describing your condition that needs treatment. Prices for meds shipped are very reasonable too.

Goood luck.


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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106798 - 10/11/03 08:16 AM

1. Midland MC
2. AAAmeds/123
3. YOD
4. Ephy

In that order...Midland and AAA are pretty darn strict. BTW, I am NOT using any of these guys simultaneously, I've just been around.

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Opie_Yates]
      #106803 - 10/11/03 09:02 AM

YOD,,,,They are the only one that I have used since I just got my records. They are wonderful. And they always answer their e-mails. That alone, impressed me

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: singlesu]
      #106858 - 10/11/03 03:19 PM

Midland

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106868 - 10/11/03 05:06 PM

Just my humble opinion since I have only dealt with a single OP, but YFD has always impressed me with their professionalism. From what I have read on these boards, each OP has its own plusses and minuses and what you could call varying levels of "respectability", but:

1) YFD insists on records and obviously looks at them.

2) YFD insists on proper id.

3) YFD is prompt and professional with consultations and in responding to CS calls within 2 rings and emails within a couple of hours (not that I have had to contact them much!). My pain relievers have always arrived without a hitch or a glitch. The one time there was a minor credit card mix-up, it was rectified quickly with professionally.

4) YFD insists on sending a port-a-medic to examine the patient. My wife was initially very leery about my obtaining medication over the Internet, having read all the tabloid stories the media likes to dredge up regarding the dangers inherent in internet dealings in general. However, when YFD sent a port-a-medic to my house, she said she now felt much, much more comfortable with the idea of my getting my medication on the 'net since I appear to be dealing with a professional medical practice and not some "boiler room" operation.

5) YFD's consultations don't consist of "What do you want and how many?" Instead, they always take as much time as needed to assess the progress the patient is making and whether I am following the helpful additional advice that is always offered in along with the prescription therapy. Their docs are obviously not trying to fill a quota of generating 9000 orders an hour or some such.

I don't doubt that there are other OPs of the same caliber as YFD, but like I said, I have only used YFD and since I am a loyal patient, I don't plan to jump ship just because some other OP may be $10.00 cheaper or offer more refills. Some cynics have suggested the YFD policy of 1 refill is a rip-off. I tend to see it as a method to keep better track of the patient's progress which is a good thing when dispensing powerful medications.

I don't post much, so some may think that I am a "shill" for YFD, but as with so many types of businesses, you only hear from the few unsatisfied customers and never the happy customers who have no urgency to write and say "all is fine".

YFD has changed my life so much for the better. With my chronic back pain, no local doctor was willing to offer any effective medication to allow me to live mostly pain-free. Some docs here have told me that they are afraid of the DEA if they prescribe a decent amount of medication to a patient.

I thank G_d for YFD and for the fact that my back problems are relatively mundane in the scheme of life, especially after reading so many postings from those who suffer far worse hardships than I could ever imagine. I am grateful that I can now perform all tasks required at my job with close to the same level of comfort that I enjoyed as a younger man before all this pain started.

YFD and the others like them will be the future of telemedicine as they continue to scrupulously adapt to the emerging rules that are being applied to internet medicine. Many of those rules make perfect sense, since we surely don’t want 13 year olds ordering meds over the Internet from those less than careful OPs.

Sorry to go on and on….. I don’t say much usually, but when you get me started…….

Feel Better All!

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: patient2all]
      #106888 - 10/11/03 06:23 PM

Sorry to sound ignorant, but could someone please tell me who is YFD???? By the way, the one's I like to use are YOD and Fedxmeds.

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: voyager]
      #106889 - 10/11/03 06:31 PM

YourFriendlyDoc

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #106907 - 10/11/03 08:36 PM

the one and only op ive ever used YOD, ive had -0- problems with them or the pharmacy they use. gage

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: patient2all]
      #106934 - 10/11/03 10:31 PM

Quote:

Just my humble opinion since I have only dealt with a single OP, but YFD has always impressed me with their professionalism. From what I have read on these boards, each OP has its own plusses and minuses and what you could call varying levels of "respectability", but:

1) YFD insists on records and obviously looks at them.

2) YFD insists on proper id.

3) YFD is prompt and professional with consultations and in responding to CS calls within 2 rings and emails within a couple of hours (not that I have had to contact them much!). My pain relievers have always arrived without a hitch or a glitch. The one time there was a minor credit card mix-up, it was rectified quickly with professionally.

4) YFD insists on sending a port-a-medic to examine the patient. My wife was initially very leery about my obtaining medication over the Internet, having read all the tabloid stories the media likes to dredge up regarding the dangers inherent in internet dealings in general. However, when YFD sent a port-a-medic to my house, she said she now felt much, much more comfortable with the idea of my getting my medication on the 'net since I appear to be dealing with a professional medical practice and not some "boiler room" operation.

5) YFD's consultations don't consist of "What do you want and how many?" Instead, they always take as much time as needed to assess the progress the patient is making and whether I am following the helpful additional advice that is always offered in along with the prescription therapy. Their docs are obviously not trying to fill a quota of generating 9000 orders an hour or some such.

I don't doubt that there are other OPs of the same caliber as YFD, but like I said, I have only used YFD and since I am a loyal patient, I don't plan to jump ship just because some other OP may be $10.00 cheaper or offer more refills. Some cynics have suggested the YFD policy of 1 refill is a rip-off. I tend to see it as a method to keep better track of the patient's progress which is a good thing when dispensing powerful medications.

I don't post much, so some may think that I am a "shill" for YFD, but as with so many types of businesses, you only hear from the few unsatisfied customers and never the happy customers who have no urgency to write and say "all is fine".

YFD has changed my life so much for the better. With my chronic back pain, no local doctor was willing to offer any effective medication to allow me to live mostly pain-free. Some docs here have told me that they are afraid of the DEA if they prescribe a decent amount of medication to a patient.

I thank G_d for YFD and for the fact that my back problems are relatively mundane in the scheme of life, especially after reading so many postings from those who suffer far worse hardships than I could ever imagine. I am grateful that I can now perform all tasks required at my job with close to the same level of comfort that I enjoyed as a younger man before all this pain started.

YFD and the others like them will be the future of telemedicine as they continue to scrupulously adapt to the emerging rules that are being applied to internet medicine. Many of those rules make perfect sense, since we surely don’t want 13 year olds ordering meds over the Internet from those less than careful OPs.

Sorry to go on and on….. I don’t say much usually, but when you get me started…….

Feel Better All!





as far as ''good op's'' are concerned your friendly doctor is not one of them, they offer 1 refill (which is ridiculous) they have horrible CS and even wrose pharms......


if you're looking for fast legal and reliable seek NWW or fexmeds they will move fast and deliver much quicker then most...

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Gottajiboo]
      #106942 - 10/12/03 12:36 AM

When the DEA get's done with domestic OP's there will be FEW legitimate, domestic OP's out there. All of you CPer's will have to decide whether DHC from europe is sufficient or you need to find a real PM in US -- it's going to get really tough.

Ofcourse the DEA will ultimately fail - they havn't won anyting significant yet. And 9M doses a year is about $27M per year in potential income -- from one single OP.

It's the distribution that is changing -- most won't call a pager anymore and get directions to Heroin delivery. Soon it will be a email address - always changing, with delivery protocol. Meet somewhere and do the deal -- if it looks screwed, bail out. over next five years, delivery mechanism will change. Everything you want will come from Mexico, no Rx and no limits on refills. And powerless DEA/FDA.

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Gottajiboo]
      #106943 - 10/12/03 01:16 AM

Quote:

as far as ''good op's'' are concerned your friendly doctor is not one of them, they offer 1 refill (which is ridiculous) they have horrible CS and even wrose pharms......

if you're looking for fast legal and reliable seek NWW or fexmeds they will move fast and deliver much quicker then most...




Flip, I couldn't agree more with ya' re: YFD. They are absolutely THE SLOWEST OP I have ever tested.

Most legit OPs IMHO are youronlinedoctor.com, aaamedsworldwide.com, easternvalleymedicalgroup.com, fedexmeds.com, ephy.com, and netpain.com. They all have basically the same requirements: faxed medical records and I.D., online questionnaire re: medical history, phone consult with an M.D.; rapid replies to e-mail, and most importantly of all, easily accessible customer service which picks up the phone within 2-3 rings !

Good luck ...

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Beetlenut]
      #107029 - 10/12/03 01:59 PM

It has been quite a while, since I have made any posts, but visit frequently to see the various opinions.

There are several good OPs, then you have several OPs that make themselves look much better then they are by "self-promoting".

Yes I am partial to NetPain.com, due to my direct associations with them. (actually founded http://netpain.com)

I have noticed over the past year many OPs, come and go, sometimes within a few months. The ones that have been around for at least a year plus, are the ones that are doing things the right way or they would not be around.

Recently I have been involved with handling many patients that have been burned by services that "claim" to be medical providers. It is truly sad to see these sites taking advantage of patients. They never stop to think about the effects the actions or lack of action takes on these patients. Money, time, money, emotional well-being, then they go out and self-promote themselves. Most patients do not have lawyers that will handle these issues for them.

One thing that I have found to be a common thread is the issue of going to the sites that request the least information, do not have you speak with a doctor, ect... If you are asked to send medical records, ID, exams, doctor consults, etc... they are getting these for your well-being.

If you chose to use an OP service (or better stated a "Medical Care Service"), do not look for the short cuts. If you look for the "short-cuts" it may cost you much more in the long run.

I am doing a lot of patient care consults recently so please ensure your information is backed by members like "Beetlenut", "DrugBuyers' moderatetors" and the member that give you the facts, not fiction. You can contact me at

Well I am glad I had the opportunity to address an issue that I have been so involved in lately.

Have a great week, stay healthy!!

Matt


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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: mkeough]
      #107036 - 10/12/03 03:04 PM

It is remarkable to hear from an actual O.P.!! After reading your post,I am very intrested in visiting your site.
However the link you posted does not work! I will TRY to email you.

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: neonsign2003]
      #107067 - 10/12/03 06:01 PM

Hi - his link didn't work because an end parenthese was accidentally included in the link - here is the correct link .

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: redhill]
      #107076 - 10/12/03 06:31 PM

Yeah it's good to hear from the OP's on the boards. I suppose there is a danger of self promotion when an OP rep starts to post, but I think it puts a more human face on the customer service aspect, if we know they are paying attention to what is said here.

I wanted to put in my two cents for Norco Worldwide. I know everybody had some really crummy billing problems with them, but I had a good experience with NWW post-billing-meltdown. And they only charged me once! (I checked).

Based on reading the threads, though, I intend to switch to YOD when I get my records in order. Partly this is due to their presence on the boards. Someday soon........


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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: Beetlenut]
      #107080 - 10/12/03 06:55 PM

Quote:

Flip, I couldn't agree more with ya' re: YFD. They are absolutely THE SLOWEST OP I have ever tested.




With my experience only limited to YFD, I don't know how fast you folks are looking for. All my prescriptions (refills or originals) always arrived either one or two days after they were placed over the past 18 months.

In fact, once I came home from work at 6:00PM EDT and ordered my refill. It was delivered the next morning at 10:00AM. They must have their running shoes on!

I think that there are several good OPs and we all prefer certain ones for different reasons. We might as well be arging about whether Chicken McNuggets are better than Big Macs. It's all a matter of personal preference and our perceptions of past experiences. If we all ordered from just one OP (the Microsoft of telemedicine!), we'd probably have all sorts of awful tales to tell since they couldn't handle all the business.

I just don't think there is sufficient reason to cut YFD out of the list of good OPs, I believe the more frequent consultations are in our best interests. Most of us don't want to deal with an operation that just functions as a "pill mill".

I like my YFD, you like your YOD or MMD, that's what makes the world such a unique and diverse place.


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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: patient2all]
      #107450 - 10/14/03 09:34 AM

Thanks for posting your opinion here Mkeugh. (sp) I get allot of hassles around here for pointing out that OP's DO check these boards and do allot of "self promoting" on them. Thanks for clearing that up. I haven't had to use your service but think that your post speaks very well for you. Thanks again and best of luck,

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Re: "Most Legit" OP out there? [Re: wat853son]
      #107499 - 10/14/03 12:50 PM

Does Midland use FEDEX or UPS. I don't like our UPS man so I only use those who use FEDEX.

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