JPain
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Can someone tell me how you know the diff between Watson and Mallies, which I have never heard of before joining this board. I did a little searching here but I may have missed it.
I have received those "A328" before and they seem strong enough but they do give me a little "diff" feeling I think.
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omega55
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There really is NO difference between Watson and Mallies, when talking about effectiveness. My wife gets prescribed 5/500 Mallies from her own Primary Care Physician. She gets 120 a month with 5 refills. I tried them myself an know what one pill feels like. It's pretty darn effective. Then I was curious as to what 2 pills taken together would feel like because alot of people take the 10Mg of hydro instead of the 5. Sometimes I need that amount. Well I tried it and it almost knocked me on my arse!! Wow! Talk about powerful. I've also tried the Watsons as well and they are equally effective. I find, however, the Mallies to be a little softer than the Watsons, which are a little harder (read below).
Look!! Hydrocodone is hydrocodone is hydrocodone. The other active ingredient in this pill that propells the hydrocodone is APAP (which is acetaminophen, aka Tylenol). APAP is APAP is APAP... I've heard many members say Watsons are stronger than Mallies. I've also heard the reverse. There are lots of variables that come into play, as far as talking about effectiveness of one brand over the other. Manufacture expiration date (meaning how old are they), storage conditions (meaning temperature and humidity), fillers (meaning hardness or softness of the pill; or time in which the pill completely dissolves), time in which the pill dissolves (meaning how quick the medication is released), tolerance levels (personal tolerances vary from person to person), and psycological (some people just believe that brand A is better than brand B no matter what you tell them).
So there is only one way to find out...Place an order, sample the medication, and then draw your own conclusions.
Hope this sorta answers your questions..
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omega55
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Oh, one other variable is neglected to mention (because I cringe when I think about it) is counterfeiting. Hey, don't kid yourself. If crooks, even to this day, can counterfeit very detailed paper money, it would be absolutely NO challenge for them to counterfeit pill imprinting plates. IMO I believe that at least 50% of all overseas meds that you order ARE counterfeit made. I also believe the same thing is happening here in America so beware!! If American-made meds are obviously weaker for some reason, I would probably consider the fact that they are probably just old or have been sitting on a hot shelf in a warehouse for awhile. When it comes to Hydrocodone from USA, most of it comes from Florida..That's right, one of the sunbelt states. Or better known as the OVEN state. And we all know what heat can do to a medications' effectiveness..
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98_Z28
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I know from personal experience that hydro is not the same quality with one company as with the next. I used to get Able brand from Costco and they were aweful. I got watson from Walgreens which was better than Able. Then I get Mall from Eckerds and is defenitely the best between the three. Even my wife which has no tolerance can see a difference. Also, If you take a name brand percocet against a generic there is a huge difference. I know from first hand experience. Everyone I always talk to say to get name brand when it comes to pain pills. I wish I could afford the name brand or I would.
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JPain
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Thanks for the replies.
I guess the one thing that concerned me was that I can find no reference to a white hydro pill with A328 on it (through a google search).
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BlackCat
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A328 white pill shaped just like the yellow Norco and yellow Watson generic is also generic Norco 10/325 - I got the same stuff once - don't worry.
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JPain
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Thank you XanaxNY. I think I may have come down with a bug this past few days and I was feeling off due to that. My mind was wanting to blame it on the pills tho
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shane369
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I know that from my own personal experience that the 7.5 mg mall from my local pharmacy are a lot stronger then the 10 mg watsons that I had got from uspharmacy, but I do believe that you are right omega. how long a medicine has sat on the shelf does play alot with the effectivness. but thats just my opinion
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nutzenutz
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These guys have always come through for me. Last time I ordered, I was exrememely satisfied with shipping time (overnight by 9am) and quality of Geneva 2mg bars. I generally take 1/2 once a day and it lasts me all day long. And I mean ALL DAY. I recived (1 day late, no biggie) my meds this past Wednesday. I took a half immediately in the morning, empty stomach, waited, . Hour later, took another hals. This went on until I had 5 in my system. 10 mg, people. I wasn't phased! Disappointed, maybe!
therefore I spoke to the actual pharmacy and he told me they were directly from the factory sealed Geneva bottles and that the expiration was, like 04/05. So....I sent them back the same day. They kindly payed for shipping back and said they would get on it! The really did a good job of promptess.
I received a new package this morning, with the exact same bars. Powdry and rank smelling in the bottle. No sweetness tinging the bitterness of the pill. I specifically asked for them to be from a different bottle. Spoke to the doctor who assured me this morning that they were brand-spanking new and should be what I need. In the past 6 hours i've gradually taken 7 bars with absolutely no afect. 1/2 bar usually knocks me down. I haven't taken any alprazolam in over a week so there should be some serious affect happening here. No, i'm not constipated. Only have now eaten a snickers, and NADA. Anyone else with this problem.?
I'm not hunting for extra meds from these guys, but this is nuts. I FEEL like thay should be working! They look totally legit and they've always been good before. But 2 batches? Any ideas?
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Dysfunction
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i know everyone has different opinions on these things. hydro 10/500: for me, i swear a watson will kick in within 20 minutes of taking it, and mallies seem to take effect appx 45 minutes after i take it. maybe it's in my head, but that is one of the reasons i prefer watsons. another thing: i (and people who talk to me on a daily basis) notice that i am cheery and happy when i am taking watsons, and i get irritable easily on mallies. since they have the same content, it doesn't make sense.
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BlackCat
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Regarding the 2mg xanax bars from Universal that were sent in August and September by USpharmacy until they stopped using Universal:
I too received the white Geneva bars and found them to be powdery and weak. I had no experience with the bars so I assumed the powdery state was normal until I read your post. Regarding their weakness, I've been on Xanax for a long time for an anxiety disorder and am alternating these 2mg powder pills (placebos?) with BRAND name 1mgs blue ovals that I had leftover to compensate for their weakness.
I recently received some other "purepac" yellow 2mg bars that were crisper and more potent. Any experience with these Nutzenutz?
On to Hydro from USpharamcy and their new C&V pharmacy:
I found the Yellow Watson Hydros from the new C&V pharmacy (which must have new meds?) to be noticably MORE potent than the Yellow Watson Hydros I got from Universal.
Combining my experience with the Xanax from Universal and the Hydro from Universal, it makes me wonder if they bought some surplus expired meds that were kept in a 150 degree storage locker for the last year to dump and stopped shipping for USpharmacyRX when they ran out. I guess it is in the past since USpharmacyRX doesn't use Universal anymore and the hydro I got from C&V is TOP NOTCH.
Has anyone had any experience ordering XANAX (1mg or 2mg) from USPHARMACYRX in the last week since they switchted to C&V pharmacy in Miami? What generic do they use and did it seem "fresh and potent"?
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