bromo
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Here is an article I found in the Detroit Free Press, I have it in front of me so it is exactly verbatem.
date: 9/30/2003
Many mail-order drugs risky, FDA finds
Crackdown reveals misleading medicines
by Randolph E. Schmid, associated press
"Washington-Nearly 90 percent of the imported mail-ordered drugs stopped from delivery in a special crackdown by governement agents were potentially dangerous, the Food and Drug Adinistration said Monday.
Of 1,153 imported drugs collected by FDA and Customs agents, 1,019 were found to be illegal. They included drugs that have been withdrawn from the U.S. market, animal drugs never approved for human use, counterfeit drugs, drugs with dangrous interactions, drugs with dangerous side effects and narcotics, officials said.
The drugs were collected at international mail arrival centers in New york, Maimi, San Fransisco and Carson, Calif.
Imported drugs have become a hot political issue in recent years with many Americans seeking low-cost products from foreign sources. Buying drugs from Cananda is particularly popular because U.S.-produced drugs cost less there.
Responding to public concerns about high drug prices, Congress has been considering ways to permit at least some imports from Canada and other major countries. FDA Associate Commissioner William Hubbard said that even if the currrently proposed bill were passed, only about 20 percent of the drugs seized in the current crackdown would have been allowed through.
Hubbard said foreign governments do not take responsibility for the safety or quality of products mailed to U.S. consumers, and his agency cannot guarantee the safety of drugs made in plants it doesn't supervise.
Canada accounts for 15.8 percent of the impoted drugs stopped. Close behind was India, at 14.3 percent, followed by Thailand and the Phillipines. Other countries included Brazil, China, Peru, Fiji, the United Kingdom and Costa Rica.
FDA Assistant Commissioner Steve Niedelman said the agency does not take any legal action against people who order the drugs, but does tell them that the products are being withheld. Narcotics, which are not allowed to be sold by mail, are turned over to the Drug Enforcemnet Agency to be destroyed.
Hubbard said the actions were taken because congressional committees ahd questioned the agency about the volume of incoming drugs."
I indented the begining of these paragraphs but they won't transpose onto my thread, oh well. I'm going to take a wild guess here by saying that a large percentage of the drugs being described were anabolic steroids, ketamine (there is human ketamine, I think it's called Keta-ject but I'm not sure, however the majority is for veterinary use.), and news mosters like Ryphonol (I can never spell that right) and Vicodin were pretty high up there. I find this repoters staement that action isn't taken ageinst people who order the drugs somewhat puzzeling. Though I don't give very much credit to people here with low posts under their belt with scare stories and never see them again, sorry, that's my opinion and I won't debate it as it's been beaten to death on these boards. But I'm sure people are getting in trouble for ordering certain "evil" drugs like steroids and ketamine so I have to wonder under what pretences does Hubbard give that statement? Anyways I hope you enjoy the article.
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bromo
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Oh and sorry for the crappy spelling I'm in a rush. And dang it someone beat me to the punch on posting this event while I was typing, guess I better learn to type faster , peace, bromo.
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plotinus
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FDA = Fully Don't know Anything. This agency is the rearend of the US government. Unless you mfg nutrtional supplements, which they hate, ignore them. They've never met a real pharmaceutical company for which they wouldn't bend over and grab their ankles.
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mightymouse
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FDA = Federal Derriere Agency...a Federally Dependent A**
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Jeremiah
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Are there really that many fake/dangerous IOP meds,or another scare tactic?
FDA= For Dummies Alone
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Edited by Jeremiah (10/01/03 08:23 AM)
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Snowmoon
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I'm expecting 2 orders from IOP's. Does anyone know when this *crackdown* occurred?
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LumbarSpasm
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Scare tactic.
And the pharmaceutical companies surely can't have us bypass their high prices, it hurts the bottom line.
I wonder how much they spend/contribute to the politicians
election campaigns? I'm sure it is plenty.
If you can't AFFORD medication from your local pharmacy, but you need to take it to maintain your health, it probably is worth not having the FDA's seal of approval.$$$
I believe many IOPs are legitimate.
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Or just a pain in the butt?!
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tammy390
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You got that right. I live in Florida and we are full of retired people who use Canadan pharmacy's to save money and they are trying to stop them from doing so. They say that they can't guarantee the quality of the drugs. BUT THE REASON IS THE DRUG COMPANIES DON'T WANT TO LOOSE MONEY.
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bromo
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I do understand their concern to certain extent because you can't (and I know how cliche' this is) kill the goose that laid the golden egg. You have to remember that majority of drugs, as is to my knowledge, are invented right here in the U.S. Our high drug prices fund R&D for the conception of drugs all these other countries are jocking off of. I realize the extent of how many cool points I'm probably losing but you have to recognize certain truths however unfair they might be. But I also won't deny that too much of U.S. pharmaceutical firms profit margin is going towards political agendas (even though there might be some that are necessary, it is the U.S.) and that the option of using IOP's be readily available to those that can't bear the financial burden of medicinal healthcare supplemented by U.S. pharmaceutical companies. I believe a financial categories be implemented by assigning people to certain criteria that enables them to use IOP's for drugs that are too heavily priced. This decision needs to come from a non-political outside source, if such a thing exists, such as a medical review board whose members specialize in economical and medicinal distribution plans that can accurately reflect drug availability to current social conditions. Disjunction from political "lobbying", and I put an emphasis on those quotation marks, is absolutely necessary to ensure protection against unilateral decisions that, as in the real world, are always geared towards the financial interest of those involved. I probably have it all wrong and I'm probably not getting my idea across as completely as I'd like to but I think at least some of you will understand what I'm getting at. I think mass chemical analysis of drug contents with regard to the country of origin would help serve as a good basis to support or discredit the claims the FDA, DEA, and American citizens make about make IOP drug safety. BTW, how does a DB'er get some profile status aroud here? Hope you enjoyed (or hated) my post. Peace, Bromo.
Edited by bromo (10/01/03 05:28 PM)
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JByrnes
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I'd be very surprised to hear about IOPs that sell dangerous and/or counterfeit drugs. First off, IOPs need repeat business to survive -- except maybe for the scam artists whom spam everyone and either never ship, or ship fake products.
As for the origin of the drugs, if a drug is sent from a country, it doesn't mean that it was manufactured in that country. We happen to ship from Central America and most of our products are made in other countries -- Japan (Prevacid), Sweden (Nexium), US (Wellbutrin SR), Canada (Effexor), Mexico (Retin-A), France (Diflucan), England (Valtrex) and many other places.
However if you get into cheap generic substitutes there are labs in pretty much every country making them, and there you might want to exercise more caution as a buyer.
It's really too bad there is a need for IOPs in the first place. Drugs in the US can be more expensive, that's understandable. But to price them so much higher as to have patients desperate enough to take a risk with foreign-sourced pharmacies? The fault is squarely placed on the shoulders of the pharmaceutical companies for having their customers go to such extremes.
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arcaneautumn
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Quote:
I'd be very surprised to hear about IOPs that sell dangerous and/or counterfeit drugs. First off, IOPs need repeat business to survive -- except maybe for the scam artists whom spam everyone and either never ship, or ship fake products.
Horizondrugs and easypharmacy has been known not to ship...are you a a scam artist
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