toe
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Anybody use them? They sell nalbuphine.
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cleo911
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Yes, I've ordered DXM from them in the past. They're a good outfit. Also, this is a domestic source, not an international OP.
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Pickledoo
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Could you please post an url? I am haveing trouble finding this site.
Thank you very much!
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cleo911
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www.ltkresearchproducts.com
toe, check your PM. Mine is temporarily unblocked.
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intrepid1
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Haven't tried them yet. Noticed that nalbuphine was $199 in Apr, was down to $129(?) on 5/1, up to $149 last time I checked. -Pat 
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DTZNuff
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How good of a pain killer is nalbuphine? That price seems too good to be true!
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Anonymous
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A quality operation, fast delivery of quality product -- DXM in my case. They are definitely on the fringes with some of the research chems that they offer. Looks like veternary stuff to me -- not bad, just needs a sophisticated consumer, who is willing to do their research, which is LTK's target market. Definitely not for diletantes -- if you don't know what a diletante is, you are one!
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toe
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Quote:
How good of a pain killer is nalbuphine? That price seems too good to be true!
I wanted to address a couple of things. First of all, this is NOT an OP of any sort. It sells chemcial research products, which are not intended for human consumption. As far as the pain relief properties of nubain, I've heard it is pretty good. It's an opiate antagonist (I think I've got my terms right) so you cannot take it if you are still on an opiate agonist like hydro.
This is an international company They ship internationally. That's why I posted it in the IOP forum. Unlike pretty much every other outfit in USOP forum, they DO ship internationally. I doubt any of the folks living outside the US ever lookin the USOP forum, and I wanted to offer a link that truly is international. If this thread remains in USOP, not only does that presume that anything other than the US is "foreign", but it also pretty much guarantees that those outside the US will never see it.
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toe
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I ordered on the 6th and haven't received yet. I'm not surprised, actually I am hoping they have not yet shipped. I called and left a message today asking for a cancellation in the event that they have not shipped yet, accompanied by an e-mail to CS stating the same thing.
I told them the sanitized version of the truth "Funds are not availble at this time."
Does anyone have experience with refunds from LTK? (if you cancel before they ship or return the product unmolested)
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banditos
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Loc: Falastin, Arabia
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hay Plotinus,
Forgive me, but I gotta.  It's "dilettante".
Banditos
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simplex
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I placed an order with them a few months back, and then I reconsidered and immediately sent an email saying cancel my order and verify to my email addy. What do you know, 3 days later they email me saying oops, we already sent it. Funny thing is, the same thing seems to be happening again for me... So I guess order from them only if you are SURE you want what they're offering...
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sausagemahoney82
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I have successfully ordered nalbuphine from them and recieved it in about 5 days. It is an effective pain killer and is supplied in powder form, however it is not marketed for human consumption so they are not responsible for any human use of their products. Keep this in mind if you decide to order.
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Anonymous
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I stand corrected -- I'm enough of a jerk to check the dictionary before capitulating  !
Does anyone know if nalbuphine can be used other than by injecting?
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Trampy
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Yes, it can, but you'd probably need almost ten times the dose. And considering that the antagonist effect increases sharply with high doses, it's gonna be useless or worse unless injected. Oh. And the people who say that all you need to do is be off hydro or another pure mu-agonist to get relief from nalbuphine ... i'll bet that they've never tried the stuff after developing dependence. Simply put ... nalbuphine is for beginners. Once you're up there on that opiate ladder, it's either gonna do nothing or it'll precipitate abstinence syndrome (whether or not you have any agonists in your system).
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mastertater
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Good info Trampy. I figured that about ltk's powder 'nubain' - a misnomer since the molecular formation for what ltk has is not the same as what is used for injection (nubain).
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jprado
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Post deleted by Melody for being rude to oher members.
Rule n°1
"Be respectful of others' opinions. A difference of opinion can be expressed without resorting to insults and bullying. Never argue with others on the board"
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padmakara
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According to this, nalbuphine is schedule II: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law_fed_sched2.shtml
any feedback?
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intrepid1
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Actually, if you look carefully at 1., it says excluding butorphanol, nalbuphine, etc.
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padmakara
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DUH! Thanks for seeing that.
For the record, I have ordered about a dozen 'experimental compounds not intended for human consumption' from several different research chemical companies (not this one) with a good track record. They usually sell you the product with the knowledge you'll be using it for human consumption (otherwise they wouldn't sell to every joe bloe without asking company info like any real research chem company does.) They just put all that 'not intended for human consumption' because they have to say that in order to be able to sell many of thier products to individuals. I did melting point tests on the dipropyltryptamine and alpha methyltryptamine I ordered some years back when I could still handle that type of stuff, and they both rated as pure. I mean, this stuff probably isn't pharmaceutical grade, but its 99.9% if its from a reliable company (i don't know about this one). Nice pure white or off-white crystals with no discoloration. Much safer taking 'research chems' after you've done the background check than any black market concoction of heroin, meth or ecstacy.
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toe
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Pad, are you saying their are other chemicals available from this source that might fit the needs of members of this board (i.e., medical)?
I know there are requests all the time for things like ritalin and adderal. Anything on sale there fit that bill?
By the way, about 5 or 6 six weeks after I ordered and numerous phone calls and e-mails requesting they cancel and drop charges, I finally left a message saying that I was initiating a chargeback with my credit card. Those charges disappeared pretty fast. (Unlike with 1stmeds,com, where I actually had to do the chargeback, not just threaten).
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