sventek
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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2003-09-12-pharmacy_x.htm?csp=15
Edited by sventek (09/15/03 09:48 AM)
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hkristof
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yowza
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moonbeam
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I just e-mailed USA Today because I wanted them to know why people go to such extreme measures in order to obtain medications that work for them. I told them that if they were going to print an article on the closing of an internet pharmacy, then they should also investigate and report why these people feel that they have no other alternative but to use these sources.
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neonsign2003
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THE IOWA PHARMACY WAS ONLY LICENSED TO SELL IN THE STATE OF IOWA. HENCE, THEY WERE CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY "SOME PEOPLE $$$$" ARE ABOVE THE LAW! 
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okinawa78
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WHO THE HELL EVER GOT THIER MEDICINE FROM THAT IOWA PHARMACY, GOOD GOD HOW FAR DID THEY HAVE TO DRIVE TO FIND THIS POOR LITTLE PLACE? IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO GET HYDROCODONE OVER THE INTERNET FROM A REAL DR. I DONT KNOW WHY ALL THE STUPID FUSS!!! CASE IN POINT YOU CALL YOUR DR. AFTER HOURS CUZ YOUR A RETARD AND YOU RAN OUT OF YOUR HYDROCODONE, YOUR IN A LOT OF PAIN. YOUR DR. IS NOT AVAILABLE. THE DR. COVERING FOR YOUR DR. HAS NEVER SEEN YOU, TALKED TO YOU NOR ASK'S YOU ANY QUESTIONS. HE CALLS THE PHARMACY AND REFILLS YOUR HYDROCODONE SCRIPT. WHAT IS THE F**KING DIFFERENCE THEN HUH? MOST OF US ARE IN DIRE PAIN AND THE DR.S ARE AFRAID TO KEEP YOU ON PAINKILLERS TOO LONG. THEN WHY START?
GIVE A POOR GUY, OR GAL, A BREAK IN LIFE PLEASE!!! PLEASE!! I BEG OF YOU!! THIS IS WHY PEOPLE KILL THEMSELVES!!
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alphaman
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Im not sure if im the only one that didnt catch why buymeds.com was even mentioned. This artical just lost me on that part what are they trying to say about buymeds???
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Karma2678
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Hi all! When I first read the article I got a little freaked out. Now I my only real concern is the attention that these OP's are getting which will sooner or later make it extremely difficult for us people with real chronic pain to use their much needed services. Loses OP's is something I worry about. I just recently over the past 4 months realized that their were legitamit OP's out theire and before them I was suffering a great deal more than I am now. I understand that their are people that abuse OP's but thier is always going to be a bad fish out thier. I just hope that things don't get to be more difficult but, the more newspaper and magazine articles I read about this the more I know it will happen. These articles only tell one side of the story I have yet to see OUR side yet. If I was a great writer I would tell OUR side of this painful story. If any of you out there are try to get OUR side of the story published somewhere.
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neonsign2003
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THE PROBLEM WAS, THAT SINCE THE PHARMACY COULD LEGALLY SELL IN IOWA,ONLY. AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY SELLING THRU BUYMEDS, THEY WERE "SELLING OUT OF LICENSE AREA" HOW SHIPMENTS WERE MADE FROM POINT A TO POINT B IS.....AHHH NOT THE POINT!
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alphaman
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O i see now Thanx neon.....lol i feel like an idiot well thanx again.........heath 
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potatoboy99
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yowza
my sentiments exactly!
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Im not sure if im the only one that didnt catch why buymeds.com was even mentioned. This artical just lost me on that part what are they trying to say about buymeds???
Is this the pharmacy that buymeds used to replace pharmanet? It doesn't sound familiar, although I'm not keeping up to date on the buymeds/pharmanet nightmare. Anyway you slice it this sucks.
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planielsen
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IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO GET HYDROCODONE OVER THE INTERNET FROM A REAL DR. I DONT KNOW WHY ALL THE STUPID FUSS!!! CASE IN POINT YOU CALL YOUR DR. AFTER HOURS CUZ YOUR A RETARD AND YOU RAN OUT OF YOUR HYDROCODONE, YOUR IN A LOT OF PAIN. YOUR DR. IS NOT AVAILABLE. THE DR. COVERING FOR YOUR DR. HAS NEVER SEEN YOU, TALKED TO YOU NOR ASK'S YOU ANY QUESTIONS. HE CALLS THE PHARMACY AND REFILLS YOUR HYDROCODONE SCRIPT. WHAT IS THE F**KING DIFFERENCE THEN HUH? MOST OF US ARE IN DIRE PAIN AND THE DR.S ARE AFRAID TO KEEP YOU ON PAINKILLERS TOO LONG. THEN WHY START?
GIVE A POOR GUY, OR GAL, A BREAK IN LIFE PLEASE!!! PLEASE!! I BEG OF YOU!! THIS IS WHY PEOPLE KILL THEMSELVES!!
The difference is that you have records...real paper records in the doctor's office...records of your health history and face-to-face doctor/patient consultations and examinations. Sure, not necessarily in every case but in most cases of what you are making reference to. Let's face it... There is definitely a lot of controvery about OPs and there are your sleazy ones and your "more legit" ones. It was just a matter of time before BuyMeds got busted. We all know who the next one will be too. They should know better and not taking more precautions and not requiring records and/or consults was just asking for it. You can't tell me they didn't know better than that. What were they thinking? It was just laziness, stupidity, and or greed on their part. Now other OPs (whether legit or not) and us patients are going to end up paying for it sooner or later.
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moonbeam
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I don't know if there is much difference in an OP that sells Schedule III medications without (at least) a telephone consult, and getting them off the black market through the neighborhood drug dealer. I figure, with the numbers that the paper reported, 4,700, if everyone bought hydrocodone at 189.00/90 that comes to 888,300.00. Figure in the markup on the shipping costs at about (at least) 10.00 is another 47,000.00. This doesn't include the orders for xanax, hycodan, valium, etc. I would say the risk would be worth a cool 5-10 million dollars in the short amount of time that they were in business. Then subtract the cost of the fine (if LE can ever get it out of them) and a couple years in jail, and you'd still have enough $$ left to live in paradise for the rest of your life.
Give me a break. The government's is sitting on a goldmine, with enough money to pay off the deficit if they would just legalize the stuff and make it available to every adult who wants it.
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lissiebear
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Wow, kinda interesting. And I live in Iowa.
Lissie
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Purple
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I read the article and I say PLEASE write about something else, we are all in pain here and looking for relief, we are not out robbing banks,killing people etc. etc. There are REAL CRIMINALS out there that need to be apprehended, such as murderes, child molestors and the such. My husband is a cop and he deals with the gangs, to get the killing gangbangers off the street. He used to be assigned to pull over people and arrest them if they are smoking pot. Waste of time he says cause they just make bail and they aren't hurting anyone, they're just smoking some weed. Not that he's saying that legal, but he would rather focus on getting the gang bangers and killers & child molestors off the streets.
I say USA TODAY: Write about Jen & Ben's breakup that is the news for the day, even though most don't care about them but that is the story for the day!! JMO
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ItsOnlyMe
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Give me a break. The government's is sitting on a goldmine, with enough money to pay off the deficit if they would just legalize the stuff and make it available to every adult who wants it.
Exactly! It is SO unbelieveable that on the one hand, you have something like hydrocodone-addictive, yes; more good points than bad....yes, and on the other hand is alcohol, a solvent approved for human consumption that probably has caused more deaths from accidents, bar fights, etc. (not to mention death from alcohol withdrawl, unlike a narcotic withdrawl which only makes you wish for it sometimes). Legalizing, quality controlling and taxing probably would put the country back in the black.
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Stacy
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't see anything about "outside Iowa".
This is what I saw as the reason listed:
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"This was one of the first U.S.-based pharmacies using a local license to cooperate with a Web site outside the continental U.S. to sell medications," said Kevin Teale, spokesman for the Iowa Department of Public Health.
The moves comes as state and federal regulators are moving more aggressively to stop American citizens from buying foreign prescription drugs. On Thursday, the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit to close down a chain of 85 storefronts that help senior citizen purchase cheaper prescription medicines from Canada.
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The pharmacy board said the arrangement allowed people to obtain dangerous and highly addictive drugs without a prescription and without a valid doctor-patient relationship to determine possible harmful effects of the drugs.
I didn't see anything at all about "outside Iowa".
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arik
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Just received my xanax order. Late, but at least it arrived. But via UPS as opposed to fedex. Good luck to anyone else out there ordering. I've decided to put off further ordering until I see they are back to normal. arik
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Dilaudid
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I had an order that was supossed to be sent out yesterday....nothin as of yet...anyone else this happened too....weird
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Dilaudid
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Does anyone know...Im really worried...this has ruined my day...
why is their site still up then
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penzam1535
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Im not sure if im the only one that didnt catch why buymeds.com was even mentioned. This artical just lost me on that part what are they trying to say about buymeds???
Twit , read again......
Visitors to the Web site http://www.buymeds.com are asked to fill out a medical questionnaire, which the site says is "thoroughly reviewed by one of our US licensed physicians."
Twit, read again.........
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drewsmerdel
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I dont see much attachment to buymeds in this pile of BS. Like the usual quality of USA today, this is shotty at best, and never really hits its mark.
Is this article talking about elders going to local offices and getting a middle man to go to cross the northern boarder? I came away from the article thinking of the local Canadian middle man in my neighborhood. The only people you see using this service obviously have very little money(most walk or bus to the office), and the rest of them are obvioulsy poor imigrants. My local news ran a Nazi type story on how bad this idea was, but came across looking like a bunch of a-holes when grandma was interviewed and said "its either this or not eating for a few days".
Why dosnt big goverment quit feeding the rich, and eating the poor.
Drew
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